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Post by toobluee on Dec 26, 2018 21:50:46 GMT
true,under dc we'd have lost comfortably though. On what basis? the basis that he'd lost the dressing room, was proving tactically inept, had an appalling away record etc etc |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 26, 2018 22:08:31 GMT
..... and a fantastic first-time cross by Rodders for the first goal too. When he's in this form you can see why he did so well at Shrews in the last couple of years. Agreed Mark, what was Tom Lockyer doing there anyway?! Was it a breakdown from a corner? It was a free kick, Upson almost found Reilly(?) with a clever pass, we even tried them at corners today!, the defender made a hash of the clearance hence Rodders cross finding Locks still in the box. |
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Post by socrates on Dec 26, 2018 22:15:35 GMT
If you mix things up from set pieces then you’ve got a chance.
Worst thing you can do is do it the same way two or three games in a row.
Scouts watch upcoming games and so do the players.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 22:20:58 GMT
the basis that he'd lost the dressing room, was proving tactically inept, had an appalling away record etc etc Fair enough. I disagree on all those points but then forums would be boring if we all agreed with each other. Interested why you think he had lost the dressing room though...? Do you know something or is that just your assumption because we've had a poor half season? |
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Post by midlandgas213 on Dec 26, 2018 22:21:24 GMT
Another great 3 points , as I said last week what a different outlook we have now we have got rid of dc we would be adrift at the bottom if he had stayed instead of looking like we have a chance of staying up and getting a decent mid table finish
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 26, 2018 23:05:31 GMT
the basis that he'd lost the dressing room, was proving tactically inept, had an appalling away record etc etc Fair enough. I disagree on all those points but then forums would be boring if we all agreed with each other. Interested why you think he had lost the dressing room though...? Do you know something or is that just your assumption because we've had a poor half season? Think it's pretty clear DC lost how to motivate the players, why or how he lost it is anybody's guess. A bonus for us is that at least his players still look capable of keeping us up unlike when Holloway, Trollope and Ward departed in the past. |
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Post by toobluee on Dec 26, 2018 23:15:22 GMT
Fair enough. I disagree on all those points but then forums would be boring if we all agreed with each other. Interested why you think he had lost the dressing room though...? Do you know something or is that just your assumption because we've had a poor half season? Think it's pretty clear DC lost how to motivate the players, why or how he lost it is anybody's guess. A bonus for us is that at least his players still look capable of keeping us up unlike when Holloway, Trollope and Ward departed in the past. personally I think the players lost belief mate.. when you scored a goal or had a cracking game he dropped you indefinitely! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 23:16:14 GMT
DC fans can now get their coats. Two cracking performances with a settled side. Football is a simple game. Comments like this are all too easy when we win. Just wait till we lose a couple having played a "settled side" and listen to all the complaints about having no Plan B! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 23:17:07 GMT
Think it's pretty clear DC lost how to motivate the players, why or how he lost it is anybody's guess. A bonus for us is that at least his players still look capable of keeping us up unlike when Holloway, Trollope and Ward departed in the past. personally I think the players lost belief mate.. when you scored a goal or had a cracking game he dropped you indefinitely! That's simply not true though, is it? |
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Post by toobluee on Dec 26, 2018 23:18:34 GMT
the basis that he'd lost the dressing room, was proving tactically inept, had an appalling away record etc etc Fair enough. I disagree on all those points but then forums would be boring if we all agreed with each other. Interested why you think he had lost the dressing room though...? Do you know something or is that just your assumption because we've had a poor half season? not in the know just assumption based on what I've witnessed this season and since he's left.. I would also personally say it's closer to a full season when you take into the account the end of last! |
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Post by toobluee on Dec 26, 2018 23:19:11 GMT
personally I think the players lost belief mate.. when you scored a goal or had a cracking game he dropped you indefinitely! That's simply not true though, is it? are you joking ? :s .. anyone who developed a shred of form he dropped and stuck with his favourites. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 23:20:26 GMT
That's simply not true though, is it? are you joking ? :s No. Who has been dropped indefinitely having scored / had a cracking game? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 23:23:39 GMT
Fair enough. I disagree on all those points but then forums would be boring if we all agreed with each other. Interested why you think he had lost the dressing room though...? Do you know something or is that just your assumption because we've had a poor half season? not in the know just assumption based on what I've witnessed this season and since he's left.. I would also personally say it's closer to a full season when you take into the account the end of last! I don't think there was much wrong at the end of last season, other than we struggled for goals having sold our main spark in Bodin. That was compounded this summer by the departures of Harrison and Gaffney. I don't see any evidence that he had lost the dressing room. There was no lack of commitment. Talent, luck at times yes, but not commitment, which is generally the indicator. |
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Post by socrates on Dec 26, 2018 23:27:01 GMT
Fair enough. I disagree on all those points but then forums would be boring if we all agreed with each other. Interested why you think he had lost the dressing room though...? Do you know something or is that just your assumption because we've had a poor half season? Think it's pretty clear DC lost how to motivate the players, why or how he lost it is anybody's guess. A bonus for us is that at least his players still look capable of keeping us up unlike when Holloway, Trollope and Ward departed in the past. These players are definitely good enough and they’re proving it these last three games but I’ve got to say the squad is massively under balanced. G man has stuck with near enough the same team for three games because they’re the only players in a very big squad capable of playing a back to basics 4-4-2 as much as they’ve performed I reckon. It’s worrying to think how many players we’ve got that either aren’t good enough or just simply don’t fit anything except a very narrow style of play or both of those things. In an ideal world “ for me “ ( DC) GC knows a couple of wingers who might want to come here to give us more balance if he’s given the job . |
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Post by axegas on Dec 26, 2018 23:28:59 GMT
That's simply not true though, is it? are you joking ? :s .. anyone who developed a shred of form he dropped and stuck with his favourites. It's no secret that DC liked to rotate his sides but generally if you played well and contributed in some way you'd remain in the side. At the end of the day it's all irrelevant, let's move on from the past and get behind Coughlan. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 23:34:41 GMT
Sercombe I will absolutely agree with you on. Wasted out wide.
Broadbent has gone backwards for me and was shown up in the pre season game v Exeter when he was bullied by Stockley. No way would anyone habe picked him after that. Good on the ground, but despite the difference in height he is nowhere near good enough in the air. Not everyone will agree, I know, but I would suggest that Tony Craig is still a much better player and deserves his place. The hope for me is that Broadbent learns from him and takes over in due course. Menayaise too...he has potential but has hardly done enough to warrant a run in the first team yet.
Reilly is an interesting one. He clearly has an eye for a goal, which we need, but his all round game is in my opinion not as good as Nichols'. I can see a case for picking either player.
Rodman has been a revelation recently but in fairness did next to nothing beforehand. Good player though and like THD will hopefully be like a new signing.
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Post by darkbluegas on Dec 26, 2018 23:53:27 GMT
not in the know just assumption based on what I've witnessed this season and since he's left.. I would also personally say it's closer to a full season when you take into the account the end of last! I don't think there was much wrong at the end of last season, other than we struggled for goals having sold our main spark in Bodin. That was compounded this summer by the departures of Harrison and Gaffney. I don't see any evidence that he had lost the dressing room. There was no lack of commitment. Talent, luck at times yes, but not commitment, which is generally the indicator. I think it was pretty evident things were going wrong from February and the form and points return since that time were really poor. I said at the beginning of Sept on here that I thought DC had 4 months to save his job and he failed to do that. I think its reasonable to suggest that something was very wrong behind the scenes that was effecting performances in recent times. That assumption was based on DC's demeanour in interviews and some of Chris Lines' comments in interview about the style of play. Whether DC lost the dressing room we wont know but the players attitude was affected by something. Particularly illustrated in the shambles at home to Barnet and the capitulation against Doncaster. Its been a few years since I've seen Rovers players as desperate to get off the pitch as they were against Doncaster |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 0:03:01 GMT
I don't think there was much wrong at the end of last season, other than we struggled for goals having sold our main spark in Bodin. That was compounded this summer by the departures of Harrison and Gaffney. I don't see any evidence that he had lost the dressing room. There was no lack of commitment. Talent, luck at times yes, but not commitment, which is generally the indicator. I think it was pretty evident things were going wrong from February and the form and points return since that time were really poor. I said at the beginning of Sept on here that I thought DC had 4 months to save his job and he failed to do that. I think its reasonable to suggest that something was very wrong behind the scenes that was effecting performances in recent times. That assumption was based on DC's demeanour in interviews and some of Chris Lines' comments in interview about the style of play. Whether DC lost the dressing room we wont know but the players attitude was affected by something. Particularly illustrated in the shambles at home to Barnet and the capitulation against Doncaster. Its been a few years since I've seen Rovers players as desperate to get off the pitch as they were against Doncaster I think there were other reasons for the points return from February. Losing Bodin, a run of injuries in midfield, tough run of fixtures. I must admit though, I had the same feeling around October that he might be gone by Christmas - I hoped not, but the writing was on the wall with the results and discord being expressed. I've clearly missed Lines' comments so not sure about that. Barnet was dreadful, I agree, as was Doncaster. None of us will know I guess, but I would guess it may have had something to do with the lack of harmony between DC and the board. His frustrations were pretty clear to see and it would be understandable if that were to filter down to the players. Hopefully people will look back over his tenure and realise that he was a bloody good manager who dragged this club back from the brink. Yes, it went wrong come the end, as it does for pretty much all managers, but he should be judged extremely favourably despite that. |
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Post by socrates on Dec 27, 2018 0:16:10 GMT
Sercombe I will absolutely agree with you on. Wasted out wide. Broadbent has gone backwards for me and was shown up in the pre season game v Exeter when he was bullied by Stockley. No way would anyone habe picked him after that. Good on the ground, but despite the difference in height he is nowhere near good enough in the air. Not everyone will agree, I know, but I would suggest that Tony Craig is still a much better player and deserves his place. The hope for me is that Broadbent learns from him and takes over in due course. Menayaise too...he has potential but has hardly done enough to warrant a run in the first team yet. Reilly is an interesting one. He clearly has an eye for a goal, which we need, but his all round game is in my opinion not as good as Nichols'. I can see a case for picking either player. Rodman has been a revelation recently but in fairness did next to nothing beforehand. Good player though and like THD will hopefully be like a new signing. Nichols definitely looks a better all round footballer thsn Reilly I agree but like Coulghan said a couple of weeks ago it’s all about putting it in the net , and Reilly does looks like one of those players who might do very little except put it in the net once every couple of games and we’ve been crying out for that all season where as Nichols is always on the ball but never scores. Broadbent had a nightmare v Exeter but with so little experience for his age I think any club will only see whether he’s any good once given a really good run of games in a side and I don’t think we can afford to take that risk given our current situation. If we were safe with 5 games left and Craig announced he was going to become player coach next season then would be the time to try him but not now perhaps ? Sercombe is class for this level he’ll get the winner on Saturday. UTG |
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Post by Gasshole on Dec 27, 2018 3:51:21 GMT
How many points off the playoffs are we?  UTG!! Playoffs FFS, we got some idiots on this Forum. Automatics for me, Come ooooooooooon you blue bast@rds, mind the fckin gap. |
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