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Post by popuppirate on Jan 4, 2019 22:15:41 GMT
Likely to be popular choice with the players, good decision if it becomes so. Now isn't the time to gamble on the likes of Garner
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2019 22:17:49 GMT
They've took the market down completely for betting. I assume JE's not ITK then the club must have told the FA etc of the impending announcement.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 4, 2019 22:18:16 GMT
He's done enough so far to deserve a crack at it until the end of the season. The players have responded to him, he's shown he's hungry for it and has shown the sort of passion for the job that we Gasheads expect. I would hope that the Board have made serious consideration to assessing the situation in the summer, as to give him a long term contract after only 5 games in management would be a mistake. However, after his start, I see no reason to be disappointed that he will be the man to continue through to the end of the season. This is not a time for bringing in a total stranger who may rock the boat, this is a time for stability and continuity. This appointment, if true, would be a sensible albeit cheap (not necessarily bad) option, as long as it's short term unless continued success is achieved. Fingers crossed it will work out for us all.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 4, 2019 22:18:54 GMT
They've took the market down completely for betting. I assume JE's not ITK then the club must have told the FA etc of the impending announcement. No not necessarily. The Market could have been taken down because of the article saying he will be confirmed as manager.
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Post by gasforeverman on Jan 4, 2019 22:21:27 GMT
Best wishes to Gc for the rest of the season. After the last game of the season will be to me the time to evaluate the future make up of the clubs management.
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 4, 2019 22:23:45 GMT
you will get used to it, first twenty years are the worst.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 4, 2019 22:26:35 GMT
The ITKs on the other forum look a little bit silly now.
Can we stop buying their rubbish please?
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Post by RD on Jan 4, 2019 22:27:01 GMT
Happy with that, but hoping initially it's only until the end of the season (although don't mind so much if it's a 1 year contract, as - worst case - breaking a 6 month contract wouldn't exactly cost the world)
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 4, 2019 22:30:50 GMT
So who would you have gone for if given the choice? Flynn (with LL FFS!!) & Cotterill have no appeal to Gasheads, Garner would be a massive gamble & Holloway had no chance. Garner - as for being a gamble, any manager would be! Cause he would have been a lot more expensive??? Lol Doubt there would have been much in our financially. Expect GC has a lot more contacts at this level. They apparently interviewed Garner. Yes he's a good coach, but do you know if he had signings lined up?? Backroom staff etc?? Or was he hoping for a lot of help. Slagging off an appointment and then suggesting someone completely untried instead. A big difference between coaching and management and motivating a team and getting the most of them.
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Post by RD on Jan 4, 2019 22:34:27 GMT
Garner - as for being a gamble, any manager would be! Cause he would have been a lot more expensive??? Lol Doubt there would have been much in our financially. Expect GC has a lot more contacts at this level. They apparently interviewed Garner. Yes he's a good coach, but do you know if he had signings lined up?? Backroom staff etc?? Or was he hoping for a lot of help. Slagging off an appointment and then suggesting someone completely untried instead. A big difference between coaching and management and motivating a team and getting the most of them. Indeed - cannot beleive the immense love-in for Garner. No experience in management - totally unproven. Fair enough Pirate likes him as he's done his research - but can't believe how many people have fallen head over heels for him based on nothing but the opinion of a forum user (no offence Pirate). Shows how easy it must have been for the Russians to rig the American presidency!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 4, 2019 22:36:16 GMT
Garner - as for being a gamble, any manager would be! Cause he would have been a lot more expensive??? Lol Doubt there would have been much in our financially. Expect GC has a lot more contacts at this level. They apparently interviewed Garner. Yes he's a good coach, but do you know if he had signings lined up?? Backroom staff etc?? Or was he hoping for a lot of help. Slagging off an appointment and then suggesting someone completely untried instead. A big difference between coaching and management and motivating a team and getting the most of them. Coughlan's got no management experience either. The difference is he's been given the opportunity whereas Garner hasn't. I just think Coughlan's the easy appointment and a short term thinking appointment. He might be ok for the rest of the season but I would be worried if we are thinking long term with him. The Al Qadi's are supposed to be all about evolution not revolution but this would be another move which would represent the opposite to me. Look good luck to the bloke but my opinion is my opinion and no matter what you or anyone else think about it, it is what it is.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 4, 2019 22:36:54 GMT
Happy with that, but hoping initially it's only until the end of the season (although don't mind so much if it's a 1 year contract, as - worst case - breaking a 6 month contract wouldn't exactly cost the world) Agreed, probably an 18 month contract allowing him to prove himself without commiting the club too much if things don't work out. Enough stability to get players in too. Now they need to back him this January, oh and deal with the 'elephant in the room'.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 4, 2019 22:37:01 GMT
One of those situations when the board can't win either way. If they appointed someone different and we started losing again, everyone would moan that GC wasn't given a chance. He's deserved a go at it, a few weeks ago we looked like we were down already. We have picked up 10 points out of 12 and are still, only just outside the zone. He has worked at league 1 level for years, so will know the division more than most, probably more than DC and the rest of our own staff! He was a leader at Plymouth when they went up through the league's and it looks like he might be able to take that into management.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 4, 2019 22:37:42 GMT
Cause he would have been a lot more expensive??? Lol Doubt there would have been much in our financially. Expect GC has a lot more contacts at this level. They apparently interviewed Garner. Yes he's a good coach, but do you know if he had signings lined up?? Backroom staff etc?? Or was he hoping for a lot of help. Slagging off an appointment and then suggesting someone completely untried instead. A big difference between coaching and management and motivating a team and getting the most of them. Indeed - cannot beleive the immense love-in for Garner. No experience in management - totally unproven. Fair enough Pirate likes him as he's done his research - but can't believe how many people have fallen head over heels for him based on nothing but the opinion of a forum user (no offence Pirate). Shows how easy it must have been for the Russians to rig the American presidency! Mine is nothing to do with Pirate. I did my own research on him as soon as I seen his name in the betting market and formulated an opinion on that. He might prove to not do well in management but it wouldn have excited me as an appointment.
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Post by RD on Jan 4, 2019 22:40:00 GMT
Indeed - cannot beleive the immense love-in for Garner. No experience in management - totally unproven. Fair enough Pirate likes him as he's done his research - but can't believe how many people have fallen head over heels for him based on nothing but the opinion of a forum user (no offence Pirate). Shows how easy it must have been for the Russians to rig the American presidency! Mine is nothing to do with Pirate. I did my own research on him as soon as I seen his name in the betting market and formulated an opinion on that. He might prove to not do well in management but it wouldn have excited me as an appointment. If we were the other end of the table then maybe. But given he position we're in, it would have been complete madness IMO. No doubt we'll see him get a job very soon given the limitless talent the bloke seems to have...
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Post by kylegas on Jan 4, 2019 22:41:01 GMT
Why .... who did u want ? I wanted an experienced man personally. As I said in a previous post he’s made us an honest hard working team that battle for wins but I’ve seen nothing to suggest he can get us playing good football or show good tactics, god knows what he’ll do in terms of transfers but I have no issue waiting to see on that front.. might be good. I think he’ll battle us to safety this season by continuing this passionate hard working play.. but where does that leave us next season? I feel like we’ll just be hard working strugglers again Of course I don’t know any of this with any certainly but it’s just my current thought process and it’s made me feel very disappointed. I’ll be there week in week out tho as always
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Post by bluestone on Jan 4, 2019 22:41:23 GMT
He's done enough so far to deserve a crack at it until the end of the season. The players have responded to him, he's shown he's hungry for it and has shown the sort of passion for the job that we Gasheads expect. I would hope that the Board have made serious consideration to assessing the situation in the summer, as to give him a long term contract after only 5 games in management would be a mistake. However, after his start, I see no reason to be disappointed that he will be the man to continue through to the end of the season. This is not a time for bringing in a total stranger who may rock the boat, this is a time for stability and continuity. This appointment, if true, would be a sensible albeit cheap (not necessarily bad) option, as long as it's short term unless continued success is achieved. Fingers crossed it will work out for us all. Well put. Exactly how I see it. GC has earned the chance to continue and with the transfer window already underway we've no time to lose with a new manager coming in. I would think GC already knows exactly who needs to be shipped out and have a list of target signings ready to go. That said GC is clearly a novice as a number 1 so I really hope Mansell and Hargreaves are allowed to stay as his 1st team support, I think they have also played a part in the turnaround.
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Post by kylegas on Jan 4, 2019 22:42:59 GMT
you will get used to it, first twenty years are the worst. So my dad keeps telling me haha but I’ll still be here in another 20 unfortunately lmao
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 4, 2019 22:43:56 GMT
Why .... who did u want ? I wanted an experienced man personally. As I said in a previous post he’s made us an honest hard working team that battle for wins but I’ve seen nothing to suggest he can get us playing good football or show good tactics, god knows what he’ll do in terms of transfers but I have no issue waiting to see on that front.. might be good. I think he’ll battle us to safety this season by continuing this passionate hard working play.. but where does that leave us next season? I feel like we’ll just be hard working strugglers again Of course I don’t know any of this with any certainly but it’s just my current thought process and it’s made me feel very disappointed. I’ll be there week in week out tho as always Fair post and exactly my thoughts on GC. As for experience that wasn't such a big factor for me. My main criteria was somebody that knows what they want to do, has their identity and a blueprint to improve us long term. It's hard to known for definite who will and won't have this but I trust my judgement and gut instinct.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 4, 2019 22:44:38 GMT
I said the same previously. If it was at the start of a new season, or we had nothing to play for, I would have liked us to give Garner a go. But there is too much at stake. If he's as good as people say at coaching, with his own ideas etc. It would take time for player's to adjust, to the new styles etc. We don't have any time at the moment.
We need someone to keep it simple, to get the player's motivated and up for the fight.
Timing was all wrong for Garner IMO
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