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Post by stuartcampbell on Feb 1, 2019 12:52:27 GMT
Last night I was fuming because of the signing, another non-goalscoring forward.
However, i've thought about it a lot today and think it could actually be a good signing. He's someone Coughlan clearly admires, and it's said he brings about the best in the striker playing next to him.
The likes of Nichols, Reilly and Jakubiak were all very poor under Darrell Clarke, but, and this is purely speculation, could this signing be the thing that pushes them to their best? And actually gets goals out of the three of them.
Reilly has 3 successful seasons in the 5 before joining us. His standard rate was around 11 a year in the Scottish Championship, so perhaps he's not the man to do it, and neither is Jakubiak, who's never really been a goalscorer.
But the reason i'm optimistic about this deal is Nichols, although his lack of goalscoring doesn't suggest it, I think Nichols has been one of our best players this season, he's got a fantastic workrate and his form at Exeter and Peterborough clearly shows that he can score goals. So perhaps this signing could actually boost him to his best.
Also, in the case of judging players from their goalscoring records, Payne had a fantastic goalscoring record, but was our worst striker!
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 1, 2019 13:08:19 GMT
Did this post really need a thread of its own?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 1, 2019 13:12:25 GMT
Did this post really need a thread of its own? Yes |
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Post by aforce on Feb 1, 2019 13:12:31 GMT
Lord give me strength this was obviously a plan z as graham only heard about it at 830pm this was way past the time we needed a striker. Hopefully for Graham’s and our sake he comes to the party because otherwise we are down
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 1, 2019 13:13:52 GMT
Payne did not have a fantastic goal scoring record.
Look at the stats.
And look at the level he was in his 2 good seasons.
I presume you aren't including AFC Hornchurch figures?
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 1, 2019 13:15:53 GMT
Lord give me strength this was obviously a plan z as graham only heard about it at 830pm this was way past the time we needed a striker. Hopefully for Graham’s and our sake he comes to the party because otherwise we are down He said he heard again, but he had been trying for a while. Worked with him in the past. Who knows what number he was to start with. |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Feb 1, 2019 13:28:12 GMT
Last night I was fuming because of the signing, another non-goalscoring forward. However, i've thought about it a lot today and think it could actually be a good signing. He's someone Coughlan clearly admires, and it's said he brings about the best in the striker playing next to him. The likes of Nichols, Reilly and Jakubiak were all very poor under Darrell Clarke, but, and this is purely speculation, could this signing be the thing that pushes them to their best? And actually gets goals out of the three of them. Reilly has 3 successful seasons in the 5 before joining us. His standard rate was around 11 a year in the Scottish Championship, so perhaps he's not the man to do it, and neither is Jakubiak, who's never really been a goalscorer. But the reason i'm optimistic about this deal is Nichols, although his lack of goalscoring doesn't suggest it, I think Nichols has been one of our best players this season, he's got a fantastic workrate and his form at Exeter and Peterborough clearly shows that he can score goals. So perhaps this signing could actually boost him to his best. Also, in the case of judging players from their goalscoring records, Payne had a fantastic goalscoring record, but was our worst striker!
The problem with Rovers is we can't afford to buy goal-scoring forwards, so have to sign non-scoring forwards and keep our fingers crossed he scores.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 1, 2019 13:38:33 GMT
Last night I was fuming because of the signing, another non-goalscoring forward. However, i've thought about it a lot today and think it could actually be a good signing. He's someone Coughlan clearly admires, and it's said he brings about the best in the striker playing next to him. The likes of Nichols, Reilly and Jakubiak were all very poor under Darrell Clarke, but, and this is purely speculation, could this signing be the thing that pushes them to their best? And actually gets goals out of the three of them. Reilly has 3 successful seasons in the 5 before joining us. His standard rate was around 11 a year in the Scottish Championship, so perhaps he's not the man to do it, and neither is Jakubiak, who's never really been a goalscorer. But the reason i'm optimistic about this deal is Nichols, although his lack of goalscoring doesn't suggest it, I think Nichols has been one of our best players this season, he's got a fantastic workrate and his form at Exeter and Peterborough clearly shows that he can score goals. So perhaps this signing could actually boost him to his best. Also, in the case of judging players from their goalscoring records, Payne had a fantastic goalscoring record, but was our worst striker!
The problem with Rovers is we can't afford to buy goal-scoring forwards, so have to sign non-scoring forwards and keep our fingers crossed he scores.
If only we could have found a club stupid enough to have a low release clause in their top scorers contract... |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 1, 2019 13:51:08 GMT
The problem with Rovers is we can't afford to buy goal-scoring forwards, so have to sign non-scoring forwards and keep our fingers crossed he scores.
If only we could have found a club stupid enough to have a low release clause in their top scorers contract... or a top scoring forward who said he would not sign a new contact unless it had a release clause in it |
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Post by stuartcampbell on Feb 1, 2019 14:01:58 GMT
Payne did not have a fantastic goal scoring record. Look at the stats. And look at the level he was in his 2 good seasons. I presume you aren't including AFC Hornchurch figures? I'd said he did tbh, after AFC Hornchurch. Went to Dover and scored 33 in 84 league games, then went to Barnsley where he barely played, then went to Shrewsbury where he was there top goalscorer. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 14:04:19 GMT
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Post by Blackbeard on Feb 1, 2019 14:12:34 GMT
In recent memory we haven't bought goal scoring forwards
We've made them
This regime hasn't the dough to buy anyone proven
It's going to be ugly frustrating and painful I fear
But no point in hand wringing we have to get behind them and be the 12th man
And that is something we've been good at over the years
UTG
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 1, 2019 14:26:07 GMT
Clarke-Harris is a good striker who hasn't quite fulfilled his potential yet for one reason or another.
He isn't your typical out and out, fox in the box, super creative and scorer of goals. He's a target man, with good mobility, strength and, what you want most of all for a target man, work rate. He's also got a hell of a shot on him from time to time.
I've watched him 3 times this year and his strength and hold up play brought Luke Daniels and Tom Bayliss into the game every time and provided an excellent foil for Chaplin who has a great engine in him and is fairly relentless.
I can see the similar crop of players here. If we could get him holding the ball up to Bring Sercombe into play, we may finally have someone for Nichols to play off or for Jakubiak to use his pace around.
Pirate will probably correct me, but I haven't seen and cannot think of a better target man we could have got with his experience that is within our budget, from our division, with the exception of teams in the top 4.
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Post by hargravegas on Feb 1, 2019 14:26:53 GMT
If only we could have found a club stupid enough to have a low release clause in their top scorers contract... or a top scoring forward who said he would not sign a new contact unless it had a release clause in it How soon we forget - Taylor was heading off to Oxford on a free & we would have got nothing at all, his agent was in the driving seat & therefore could pretty much write whatever they wanted into the contracting return for him staying (a while longer waiting for a better deal). Time to be pleased we got £300k & move on? |
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Post by hargravegas on Feb 1, 2019 14:29:42 GMT
Amidst the various abusive posts in response to the news on Twitter, there were one or two really distressed Cov fans that they were losing him, that’s good enough for me to give him a chance. Don’t put him on Pens though (if you’ve seen the gif - it’s probably still rising!) #UTG
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 1, 2019 14:32:38 GMT
If only we could have found a club stupid enough to have a low release clause in their top scorers contract... or a top scoring forward who said he would not sign a new contact unless it had a release clause in it Has to be agreed by both parties, I bet we didnt even try to increase it. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 1, 2019 14:35:31 GMT
or a top scoring forward who said he would not sign a new contact unless it had a release clause in it How soon we forget - Taylor was heading off to Oxford on a free & we would have got nothing at all, his agent was in the driving seat & therefore could pretty much write whatever they wanted into the contracting return for him staying (a while longer waiting for a better deal). Time to be pleased we got £300k & move on? The devil was in the detail with that release clause though. Its should have been appearance and goals scored levied on top of an initial release fee. Commercial suicide that. If we had inserted that clause in, it would have been in his interest to keep him focused with scoring, because if you aren't scoring, you won't get a move. If you are scoring and say we inserted a clause that said if you get 10 by Dec 31 Jan its additional £250k all of a sudden we have a better fee. And if you get 10 and no one meets the activation by Jan 31 you trigger an automatic 12 months on similar terms but with a higher release fee if you score 20 by the end of the season. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 1, 2019 14:38:56 GMT
How soon we forget - Taylor was heading off to Oxford on a free & we would have got nothing at all, his agent was in the driving seat & therefore could pretty much write whatever they wanted into the contracting return for him staying (a while longer waiting for a better deal). Time to be pleased we got £300k & move on? The devil was in the detail with that release clause though. Its should have been appearance and goals scored levied on top of an initial release fee. Commercial suicide that. If we had inserted that clause in, it would have been in his interest to keep him focused with scoring, because if you aren't scoring, you won't get a move. If you are scoring and say we inserted a clause that said if you get 10 by Dec 31 Jan its additional £250k all of a sudden we have a better fee. And if you get 10 and no one meets the activation by Jan 31 you trigger an automatic 12 months on similar terms but with a higher release fee if you score 20 by the end of the season. or he would have walked anyway with that clause as he was out of contract |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 14:46:05 GMT
Did this post really need a thread of its own? Careful or the OP will revolt |
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Post by socrates on Feb 1, 2019 14:51:17 GMT
Last night I was fuming because of the signing, another non-goalscoring forward. However, i've thought about it a lot today and think it could actually be a good signing. He's someone Coughlan clearly admires, and it's said he brings about the best in the striker playing next to him. The likes of Nichols, Reilly and Jakubiak were all very poor under Darrell Clarke, but, and this is purely speculation, could this signing be the thing that pushes them to their best? And actually gets goals out of the three of them. Reilly has 3 successful seasons in the 5 before joining us. His standard rate was around 11 a year in the Scottish Championship, so perhaps he's not the man to do it, and neither is Jakubiak, who's never really been a goalscorer. But the reason i'm optimistic about this deal is Nichols, although his lack of goalscoring doesn't suggest it, I think Nichols has been one of our best players this season, he's got a fantastic workrate and his form at Exeter and Peterborough clearly shows that he can score goals. So perhaps this signing could actually boost him to his best. Also, in the case of judging players from their goalscoring records, Payne had a fantastic goalscoring record, but was our worst striker!
The problem with Rovers is we can't afford to buy goal-scoring forwards, so have to sign non-scoring forwards and keep our fingers crossed he scores.
It worked with bodin and Taylor , nothing since but we’re due one so maybe this lad will be one. |
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