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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 21:54:40 GMT
That's an incredible set of results, didn't G1981 ridicule Hamer on here as he wanted SC to replace GC, if he had we could well be a Championside now if he'd pulled off a similar set of results. Our Boxing Day game is starting to look a big one as we don't want to get dragged back into the bottom 4. They are unbeaten in five league games since he took charge. The other two results were draws with Charlton and Accrington, another two sides doing well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 22:01:13 GMT
When Coughlan and Garner went I said I’d have Cotterill here. Never could understand why he’s disliked so much just because of his association with City. Okay, he might have an attitude problem but he makes up for it with results. He’s a good manager at this level and he might be proving the critics wrong who think he only does well when he’s got loads of money to spend.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 22, 2020 22:10:36 GMT
An ex-City manager with an attitude problem and you can't understand why he's disliked so much!! If he was considered such a good manager then why have no other L1 club appointed him whilst he's been out of work? It'll be interesting to see how long he can keep this run going, meanwhile it looks like Holloway is on borrowed time at Grimsby after they lost again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 22:30:09 GMT
An ex-City manager with an attitude problem and you can't understand why he's disliked so much!! If he was considered such a good manager then why have no other L1 club appointed him whilst he's been out of work? It'll be interesting to see how long he can keep this run going, meanwhile it looks like Holloway is on borrowed time at Grimsby after they lost again. Maybe I should be more explicit and say that I don’t understand why so many are against him being manager of us. He’s an unlikeabke character for sure but if he got us promoted who cares? I was never a fan of Coughlan but I loved his results (eventually!). I daresay chairmen are afraid to hire Cotterill because he seems like he could start a row in an empty house, Shrewsbury took a punt on him and right now I bet they are a lot happier than Sunderland out of the two league one homes for wayward shithead managers
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 23, 2020 8:26:21 GMT
That's an incredible set of results, didn't G1981 ridicule Hamer on here as he wanted SC to replace GC, if he had we could well be a Championside now if he'd pulled off a similar set of results. Our Boxing Day game is starting to look a big one as we don't want to get dragged back into the bottom 4. I did, and I would never want him near our club, especially at the time when we had Hamer in the boardroom and the poisonous atmosphere that was around the ownership at the time, it would have added to the flames. He has an Awful persona around him at times, with players, press and fans and who could forget his comments aimed at us. Since leaving city he’s hardly had a stellar set of results either so getting excited about 3 1-0 wins or 5 unbeaten games is a touch premature for speculating that we would have gotten championship football with him in charge.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 23, 2020 9:31:48 GMT
Picking a new manager is fraught at the best of times. And managers don't just seem to be good or bad (otherwise it would be easy) they seem to fit well in some circumstances, in some clubs, and not work at others. Maybe Cotterill would work here, but why would the board make it hard for themselves by appointing someone who would already be going against the odds, coz of his history.
I don't believe Cotterill would be a good fit, here, as we've always been a fundamentally decent, small, underdog club. Why would we appoint someone who is obviously a bit of a lady garden, and a bit of a flat-track bully? But on top of that, why would we appoint someone who chose, like a lady garden, when he was having a hard time at BS3, to invoke us in a disparaging manner in order to big up a result?
Normally managers get a honeymoon period and then have to win over the crowd, but why make it hard on ourselves, because he wouldn't get a honeymoon period (albeit there are no crowds) and it would be twice as hard to win us over.
In addition, he doesn't complement the (largely notional, atm) new 'Rovers DNA' thing we're trying to build.
It's really easy to say we should have appointed him, on the back of a few results at Shrewsbury, but his appointment would have been against every indicator of success (except the standard 'can you manage a club,' one, which to be fair BG didn't pass). He burned his bridge in that regard when he chose to disparage us to try to win a few more days grace when the dogs had already turned against him at City. Just out of common decency he can f**k off for that.
On top of that, for the record, I don't think he's that good, anyway, but even if he were, it would be a massively risky appointment.
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Post by aghast on Dec 23, 2020 22:03:13 GMT
That's a very good assessment indeed Mr Fargas.
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Post by slimbridgegas on Dec 23, 2020 22:16:51 GMT
Move on ..... there’s a good reason why it took him ages to get a job back with a league club.....
BTW Tisdale is perfect ! So let’s be thankful.
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Post by amgas on Dec 23, 2020 23:44:23 GMT
Did you ever listen to him do a post match interview on Radio Bristol ..... That alone was enough for me not to want him, never mind the fact he had managed them. As others have said he has not exactly been in demand.
I reckon most of us would not have that huge a problem with an ex-City manager or player if they were likely to improve us. They were happy to take one of our players recently so suggest works both ways.
Anyway Tisdale a much better choice.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Dec 24, 2020 0:39:30 GMT
Did you ever listen to him do a post match interview on Radio Bristol ..... That alone was enough for me not to want him, never mind the fact he had managed them. As others have said he has not exactly been in demand. I reckon most of us would not have that huge a problem with an ex-City manager or player if they were likely to improve us. They were happy to take one of our players recently so suggest works both ways. Anyway Tisdale a much better choice. I'd have loved Gary Johnson here in his prime. His ship has sailed these days mind, it's probably near Australia by now!
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Post by EastVanGas on Dec 24, 2020 7:09:13 GMT
Did you ever listen to him do a post match interview on Radio Bristol ..... That alone was enough for me not to want him, never mind the fact he had managed them. As others have said he has not exactly been in demand. I reckon most of us would not have that huge a problem with an ex-City manager or player if they were likely to improve us. They were happy to take one of our players recently so suggest works both ways. Anyway Tisdale a much better choice. I'd have loved Gary Johnson here in his prime. His ship has sailed these days mind, it's probably near Australia by now! Six points clear at the top of the National League right now. That ship might have turned and be on its way back
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 24, 2020 7:44:48 GMT
Did you ever listen to him do a post match interview on Radio Bristol ..... That alone was enough for me not to want him, never mind the fact he had managed them. As others have said he has not exactly been in demand. I reckon most of us would not have that huge a problem with an ex-City manager or player if they were likely to improve us. They were happy to take one of our players recently so suggest works both ways. Anyway Tisdale a much better choice. I'd have loved Gary Johnson here in his prime. His ship has sailed these days mind, it's probably near Australia by now! He was offered the job once...when DC didn’t start the conference season too well.
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Post by legas on Dec 24, 2020 9:15:01 GMT
I'd have loved Gary Johnson here in his prime. His ship has sailed these days mind, it's probably near Australia by now! Six points clear at the top of the National League right now. That ship might have turned and be on its way back I’m not so sure - Torquay’s quite near Australia.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 24, 2020 9:22:49 GMT
Six points clear at the top of the National League right now. That ship might have turned and be on its way back I’m not so sure - Torquay’s quite near Australia. Local derby for Plymouth.
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Post by toddy1953 on Jan 18, 2021 14:05:14 GMT
Cotterill, been seriously ill with Covid, still in hospital but ou5 of intensive care. I am sure we wish him a speedy recovery, irrespective of our thoughts on him.
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Post by axegas on Jan 18, 2021 14:09:59 GMT
Cotterill, been seriously ill with Covid, still in hospital but ou5 of intensive care. I am sure we wish him a speedy recovery, irrespective of our thoughts on him. Absolutely, the effects of the virus are really nasty. Hope he makes a swift and full recovery and that he’s in the dugout again when Shrewsbury visit the mem next month.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jan 18, 2021 14:23:44 GMT
Bit of a Marmite character but gets results at our level and prob would have been ok for us, wish him a speedy recovery , further confirmation that this thing is for real and should not be taken lightly
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 18, 2021 14:43:40 GMT
Bit of a Marmite character but gets results at our level and prob would have been ok for us, wish him a speedy recovery , further confirmation that this thing is for real and should not be taken lightly Cotterill would have been my 2nd choice (after Nigel Clough, if we'd acted sooner) but have seen on Facebook from someone that knows him he wouldn't come here anyway due to his City connections? (may well be BS though)
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 18, 2021 17:47:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 23:22:47 GMT
Cotterill, been seriously ill with Covid, still in hospital but ou5 of intensive care. I am sure we wish him a speedy recovery, irrespective of our thoughts on him. Agreed. Football has been very fortunate so far that it hasn’t seen a high profile casualty but it sounds like Cotterill has certainly sailed close to the wind if he has been in ICU. So yes, good luck to him in his recovery from here on.
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