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Post by warehamgas on Mar 14, 2019 18:52:23 GMT
You are both right. Only at Rovers would you spend the evening reading about how rich, Middle East owners, have transformed Manchester City into one of the best and richest clubs in the world and wake up the following morning to hear that BRFC have been taken over by rich Jordanian owners and then find out two years later that these middle eastern owners donât want to spend too much money and appear to have no real vision for the club. Only at Rovers!!đ UTG! Whilst i agree to some extent Wareham the other thing that is "typical Rovers" is fans getting carried away with no real evidence of what was likely to happen. Yes, youâre right woosh fans do get carried away and we did have no evidence of what was likely to happen. But, letâs face it, fans do get optimistic, âcarried awayâ or whatever you want to call it. They always have done and they always will. And, tbf to the AQs, they always said that they wouldnât throw money at it, it was evolution not revolution etc. etc. But they also said money was not an issue over the UWE and that has proved not to be the case. And it is that which seriously misled the fans. I was a great supporter of them as they changed things but in the end you get judged by what you say and what you do and on those points the AQs have disappeared since 2017. I donât think Rovers fans are too different from any other club and perhaps few fans, in any club, ever really know whatâs likely to happen. And I still think itâs ironic that of all the potential people to own our club we end up with middle eastern owners who donât want to spend money. đ UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 18:52:42 GMT
Geoff stated "What would the answer be in 12 months time "? Wael won't be here in 6 months let alone 12. Its obvious he & the family want out. Wael Al Qadi will be at our club long term.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 14, 2019 18:55:01 GMT
Geoff stated "What would the answer be in 12 months time "? Wael won't be here in 6 months let alone 12. Its obvious he & the family want out. Wael Al Qadi will be at our club long term. this fills me with dread but I get what you are saying. I hope to hell he finds his investment elsewhere then because the fam ain't interested. I also hope his continuing involvement is not a prerequisite for any sale that may mean deals arent made as a result. If he is 100% committed gashead then in those circumstances he should step aside.
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 14, 2019 18:58:34 GMT
Some would slag him off, not matter what as well lol. There are something's they can't tell us. But that automatically means nothing is happening, according to most on here. Even you must be wondering what the hell Wael's waffling on about, one minute he's talking about spending £m's+on a new ground, next minute selling up and he's even been in talks with someone to sell the club.  Not listened to it yet, as it's obvious he can only give so much away lol. What do you mean even you?? I have been 50/50 for ages on the board. I just point out we don't actually know and it could still go either way. I have pointed out how people have been wrong. Saying they won't spend another penny, but then the budget goes up etc. We know we need a stadium to compete long term etc, but things have not been as bad as most make out. I have said before, I think they would sell if they thought it was right, as it was a lot harder than they thought. But they have still backed the club in the meantime.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 19:00:03 GMT
I said earlier heâs a massive fan, he really cares and the bloke is doing everthing possible to put things right. Give him the benefit of the doubt, he loves the club and I believe will be here long term with the right investment to take us forward.
I will tell him heâs stupid for doing this interview when I see him next because he canât win and he can hardly say we are about to be sold if say an NDA has been signed in secrecy at the expense of another bidder can he?
Simply should never have done this tonight but he tries to please people
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2019 19:01:57 GMT
Geoff stated "What would the answer be in 12 months time "? Wael won't be here in 6 months let alone 12. Its obvious he & the family want out. Wael Al Qadi will be at our club long term. Isn't it him insisting that he wants a 10% share of the club and a place on the board driving potential investors away, why doesn't he just do the decent thing and find a new club his family can actually afford to run, Rovers is clearly to big a club for his family. If he's not careful this will all end in tears like Coventry, Blackpool or Charlton. (What's up with the R Bristol callers are they really all that deluded? "we're close to a new stadium" more like we're the furthest we've been for over a decade)
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 14, 2019 19:02:08 GMT
Despite missing the first part it seems to me theyâre very much on board and trying their best to find somewhere appropriate.
Rome isnât built in a day. They canât click their fingers and magic up a site and even if we did, weâd have to go through planning and procurement. This all takes time.
That interview fills me with confidence theyâre the right people for us.
Al Qadis in.
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Post by aghast on Mar 14, 2019 19:04:34 GMT
Very interesting interview, I thought.
Wael said more than I expected him to, although he didn't sound very happy saying it.
Great work by Twentyman in squeezing those answers out. He's like a very pleasant dog with a bone.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 14, 2019 19:04:44 GMT
I said earlier heâs a massive fan, he really cares and the bloke is doing everthing possible to put things right. Give him the benefit of the doubt, he loves the club and I believe will be here long term with the right investment to take us forward. I will tell him heâs stupid for doing this interview when I see him next because he canât win and he can hardly say we are about to be sold if say an NDA has been signed in secrecy at the expense of another bidder can he? Simply should never have done this tonight but he tries to please people I hope you dont misunderstand me or others with similar opinions - I AM pleased. I'm delighted actually that we are looking to be taken over/get investment from elsewhere. I'm also please to finally be told the truth about the non existent plans for development. For those of us that knew this to be the case anyway it's good news really. For those who thought they would still come through and build all the stuff they said they would, it's probably disappointing.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 14, 2019 19:06:47 GMT
Itâs tricky one. Weâre actually not that far off challenging higher up the table. When we had Bodin and snake, in the first half of 2016/17, we were definitely challenging for the play offs and in with a sniff. Iâd argue that since they both left, Ellis really stepped up for a bit, but we have lacked those game changers. We are probably at about the same level in defence and midfield but just havenât had that extra bit of quality. Now, a fully fit THD and JCH have bolstered us and we look a far more capable team again. Weâre still a world away from competing with the Sunderlands of this world, though. Serious cash and/or luck/inspiration with quite a few signings would be needed to catapult us into that sphere. Thatâs why I think a lot of people think promotion to the championship could be a bit of a distaster if we donât have the infrastructure in place to compete, even with the lower level clubs in that division. We don't need to compete with Sunderland nor even Barnsley to get promoted we need to compete with the likes of Charlton, Luton, Donny & Blackpool, with a decent ground and 15K average home attendance that seems possible. it will be interesting to see what Luton do if they go up as their home attendance is unlikely to increase substantially, so in theory they should come straight back down next season if we apparently can't survive in the Championship.    I agree. It will be interesting to see how they get on. Teams like Burton and Rotherham have survived but only just. Bournemouth of course are in the Prem with crowds of about 11K but they are backed by serious money. Hard to see us lasting more than a season or two in the Championship unless we had serious investment.
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Mar 14, 2019 19:07:03 GMT
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Post by socrates on Mar 14, 2019 19:16:37 GMT
Whilst i agree to some extent Wareham the other thing that is "typical Rovers" is fans getting carried away with no real evidence of what was likely to happen. Yes, youâre right woosh fans do get carried away and we did have no evidence of what was likely to happen. But, letâs face it, fans do get optimistic, âcarried awayâ or whatever you want to call it. They always have done and they always will. And, tbf to the AQs, they always said that they wouldnât throw money at it, it was evolution not revolution etc. etc. But they also said money was not an issue over the UWE and that has proved not to be the case. And it is that which seriously misled the fans. I was a great supporter of them as they changed things but in the end you get judged by what you say and what you do and on those points the AQs have disappeared since 2017. I donât think Rovers fans are too different from any other club and perhaps few fans, in any club, ever really know whatâs likely to happen. And I still think itâs ironic that of all the potential people to own our club we end up with middle eastern owners who donât want to spend money. đ UTG! This is exactly as I see it. I still think weal got our hopes up though with his talk of the Sainsburyâs deal falling through not stopping us from building elsewhere for example. Thing is I still think genuinely think that the original targets set when they bought were cut back by his family but he canât very well go live on local radio and say â my family arenât really in to it and they wont let me do what I want with your club and Iâm really f**ked off sbout it â can he ? Family bonds tend to be very strong in those parts of the world snd cultures and the way I see it is his hands are tied and he canât do what he wants to do. I feel sorry for him but Iâm also watered off with him in equal measures. Talk of him being poison or assit stripping the club is just wrong. We got the right guy with the right ambition with the wrong family with no experience of running a football club. No worse than Higgs just poor in a different way.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Mar 14, 2019 19:19:05 GMT
Wael Al Qadi will be at our club long term. Isn't it him insisting that he wants a 10% share of the club and a place on the board driving potential investors away unless you have been privy to every single takeover/investment conversation Wael has been involved in this is hearsay or speculation. (What's up with the R Bristol callers are they really all that deluded? "we're close to a new stadium" more like we're the furthest we've been for over a decade). We might be just as deluded believing everything that you tripe type.
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 14, 2019 19:19:06 GMT
Not listened to it yet, as it's obvious he can only give so much away lol. What do you mean even you?? I have been 50/50 for ages on the board. I just point out we don't actually know and it could still go either way. I have pointed out how people have been wrong. Saying they won't spend another penny, but then the budget goes up etc. We know we need a stadium to compete long term etc, but things have not been as bad as most make out. I have said before, I think they would sell if they thought it was right, as it was a lot harder than they thought. But they have still backed the club in the meantime. Your like the listeners texting 20men, Wael's not saying anything because there's simply nothing to say, the UWE talks have collapsed and nobody wants to buy the club. That's your opinion and that could well be the case. But you could be wrong, we could be looking at sites and could be in talks with other parties. I'm not making out I know, don't know why people like you, try and make out you're right. Do you know 100% that is the case??? Doubt it lol. I'm not trying to make out I know what's happening, I don't. Like everyone else I can form an opinion, but I admit that's all it is. If they are not interested why do the interview? Why apoint a CEO? Why up the budget? Why still support the club etc. I think there are things like that pointing towards them still trying to do things. But then the training ground etc is a worry.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 19:22:25 GMT
We succeed or die trying, hope they bloody succeed then.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2019 19:24:16 GMT
Your like the listeners texting 20men, Wael's not saying anything because there's simply nothing to say, the UWE talks have collapsed and nobody wants to buy the club. That's your opinion and that could well be the case. But you could be wrong, we could be looking at sites and could be in talks with other parties. I'm not making out I know, don't know why people like you, try and make out you're right. Do you know 100% that is the case??? Doubt it lol. I'm not trying to make out I know what's happening, I don't. Like everyone else I can form an opinion, but I admit that's all it is. If they are not interested why do the interview? Why apoint a CEO? Why up the budget? Why still support the club etc. I think there are things like that pointing towards them still trying to do things. But then the training ground etc is a worry. If they are trying to do things then why enter into talks inc DD with a potential buyer?
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Post by rosssgb on Mar 14, 2019 19:28:46 GMT
I said earlier heâs a massive fan, he really cares and the bloke is doing everthing possible to put things right. Give him the benefit of the doubt, he loves the club and I believe will be here long term with the right investment to take us forward. I will tell him heâs stupid for doing this interview when I see him next because he canât win and he can hardly say we are about to be sold if say an NDA has been signed in secrecy at the expense of another bidder can he? Simply should never have done this tonight but he tries to please people Ffs. I wasnât going to bite but how the f**k is he a massive fan? Please stop the charade. Youâre not his best mate, and you know nothing more than any of us regular fans do. Itâs become clear his family, possibly through no fault of his own, have no intention of taking the club forward. I hope they leave ASAP.
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