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Post by warehamgas on Mar 14, 2019 19:30:04 GMT
Yes, youāre right woosh fans do get carried away and we did have no evidence of what was likely to happen. But, letās face it, fans do get optimistic, ācarried awayā or whatever you want to call it. They always have done and they always will. And, tbf to the AQs, they always said that they wouldnāt throw money at it, it was evolution not revolution etc. etc. But they also said money was not an issue over the UWE and that has proved not to be the case. And it is that which seriously misled the fans. I was a great supporter of them as they changed things but in the end you get judged by what you say and what you do and on those points the AQs have disappeared since 2017. I donāt think Rovers fans are too different from any other club and perhaps few fans, in any club, ever really know whatās likely to happen. And I still think itās ironic that of all the potential people to own our club we end up with middle eastern owners who donāt want to spend money. š UTG! This is exactly as I see it. I still think weal got our hopes up though with his talk of the Sainsburyās deal falling through not stopping us from building elsewhere for example. Thing is I still think genuinely think that the original targets set when they bought were cut back by his family but he canāt very well go live on local radio and say ā my family arenāt really in to it and they wont let me do what I want with your club and Iām really f**ked off sbout it ā can he ? Family bonds tend to be very strong in those parts of the world snd cultures and the way I see it is his hands are tied and he canāt do what he wants to do. I feel sorry for him but Iām also watered off with him in equal measures. Talk of him being poison or assit stripping the club is just wrong. We got the right guy with the right ambition with the wrong family with no experience of running a football club. No worse than Higgs just poor in a different way. Thatās it socrates, I think the family stuff is right. I suspect heās stuck between the family wanting out and him wanting to be a success and perhaps prove his worth in the family and as you say he canāt come out and say it. UTG!
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 14, 2019 19:32:33 GMT
That's your opinion and that could well be the case. But you could be wrong, we could be looking at sites and could be in talks with other parties. I'm not making out I know, don't know why people like you, try and make out you're right. Do you know 100% that is the case??? Doubt it lol. I'm not trying to make out I know what's happening, I don't. Like everyone else I can form an opinion, but I admit that's all it is. If they are not interested why do the interview? Why apoint a CEO? Why up the budget? Why still support the club etc. I think there are things like that pointing towards them still trying to do things. But then the training ground etc is a worry. If they are trying to do things then why enter into talks inc DD with a potential buyer?Ā Why not?? If they can take the club forward and give them their money back. Surely any buyer would want to see plans etc anyway. So be reason why they can't keep working at it, while being keen for investment or a takeover. Higgs sold the club, but they were still working with Uwe.
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Post by rosssgb on Mar 14, 2019 19:34:47 GMT
Some of you could find Wael in bed with your Mrs and youād invite him down for a cup of tea Some would slag him off, not matter what as well lol. There are something's they can't tell us. But that automatically means nothing is happening, according to most on here. Absolute rubbish. Iād be happy with a new training ground and absolutely no development to the Mem. Iām not asking for the world. I just donāt understand what the actual point is in them buying our club? All Iām asking for is some improvement (not new tents and hand dryers!) and some actual AMBITION.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Mar 14, 2019 19:36:44 GMT
I believe Wael has the best intentions but think he and his family are in way over their heads
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Post by paulpirate on Mar 14, 2019 19:48:10 GMT
I believe Wael has the best intentions but think he and his family are in way over their heads i feel sorry for wael NOT They thought they could make some money on a nice new uwe stadium and it all went tits up,more bs from him as usual Sell it to somebody who got the money to invest Fraud
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Post by socrates on Mar 14, 2019 19:49:05 GMT
I believe Wael has the best intentions but think he and his family are in way over their heads I donāt think theyāre in it over their heads I think itās more case of their heads and hearts for that matter just arenāt in it.
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Post by peterparker on Mar 14, 2019 19:50:10 GMT
I believe Wael has the best intentions but think he and his family are in way over their heads i feel sorry for wael NOT They thought they could make some money on a nice new uwe stadium and it all went tits up,more bs from him as usual Sell it to somebody who got the money to invest Fraud And what if there is no one that wants to buy a crap 3rd/4th division club?
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 14, 2019 19:59:14 GMT
Some would slag him off, not matter what as well lol. There are something's they can't tell us. But that automatically means nothing is happening, according to most on here. Absolute rubbish. Iād be happy with a new training ground and absolutely no development to the Mem. Iām not asking for the world. I just donāt understand what the actual point is in them buying our club? All Iām asking for is some improvement (not new tents and hand dryers!) and some actual AMBITION. Training ground is not priority, while we can stay at Cribbs, most people that have actually been there, have said it's quite good. Stadium has to be priority. For all we know, they could be working on that. If they are not, then they should let the club go, if someone is willing to take it lol. I wouldn't be happy with just a new training ground lol.
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Post by glengas on Mar 14, 2019 20:03:37 GMT
I think the problem is they donāt like to break bad news. The Colony was allowed to drag on and on with supporters believing it would be started when it was clear it would not and never will be built. The UWE collapse was leaked on Facebook. In his letter to season ticket holders ,Wael promised communication would be improved but nothing has changed. Hope they can deliver a new stadium but the only way I can see that happening is with new owners.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 14, 2019 20:06:57 GMT
I believe Wael has the best intentions but think he and his family are in way over their heads I would have thought that the āfamilyā see it as a business only and because of that they arenāt in over their heads because they realise that no way does it make financial sense in the short term. Their heads are telling them to get out or at least not put much more money in. And I doubt if their hearts were ever in it, it was 100% business for them. Wael on the other hand his heart may be in it but he doesnāt pull the money strings. But, as you said, he probably does have the best intentions....but unfortunately not the family money. UTG!
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Post by Slide away on Mar 14, 2019 20:12:27 GMT
I believe Wael has the best intentions but think he and his family are in way over their heads i feel sorry for wael NOT They thought they could make some money on a nice new uwe stadium and it all went tits up,more bs from him as usual Sell it to somebody who got the money to invest Fraud Which is exactly what he said...?
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Post by markczgas on Mar 14, 2019 20:20:14 GMT
After listening to that it confirms for me that we could be on a rocky road to say the least. No wonder DC was calling out budget cuts. These guys want out ( Wael was pretty much advertising this in his slightly guarded, nervous manner) and the longer it takes the more they're going to cut back. I'm praying we get somebody to buy them out soon - but another foreign investor with no ties to Rovers/Bristol - god hope not !
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Post by markczgas on Mar 14, 2019 20:22:07 GMT
i feel sorry for wael NOT They thought they could make some money on a nice new uwe stadium and it all went tits up,more bs from him as usual Sell it to somebody who got the money to invest Fraud And what if there is no one that wants to buy a crap 3rd/4th division club? That's very negative of you
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Post by matealotblue on Mar 14, 2019 20:25:14 GMT
After listening to that it confirms for me that we could be on a rocky road to say the least. No wonder DC was calling out budget cuts. These guys want out ( Wael was pretty much advertising this in his slightly guarded, nervous manner) and the longer it takes the more they're going to cut back. I'm praying we get somebody to buy them out soon - but another foreign investor with no ties to Rovers/Bristol - god hope not ! The Oystons may be available.....š¤
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Post by paulpirate on Mar 14, 2019 20:26:15 GMT
i feel sorry for wael NOT They thought they could make some money on a nice new uwe stadium and it all went tits up,more bs from him as usual Sell it to somebody who got the money to invest Fraud And what if there is no one that wants to buy a crap 3rd/4th division club? were not crap? Well the fans arenāt,best thing about this football club Weāre CRAP as you put it cause we always end up with tight fookers Look where Bournemouth are now? Weāre a bigger club than them they just have someone willing to spend
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Post by Gasshole on Mar 14, 2019 20:30:42 GMT
Moaningās easy, it takes very little effort. Getting a stadium built from scratch is not so easy. I doubt there is another Rovers fan on this planet trying harder than Wael to achieve this.
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Post by northsidegas on Mar 14, 2019 20:36:52 GMT
As much as it might disgrunt some people on here but knowall was correct about the rumours in November
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Post by paulpirate on Mar 14, 2019 20:36:55 GMT
Moaningās easy, it takes very little effort. Getting a stadium built from scratch is not so easy. I doubt there is another Rovers fan on this planet trying harder than Wael to achieve this. š
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Post by peterparker on Mar 14, 2019 20:38:35 GMT
And what if there is no one that wants to buy a crap 3rd/4th division club? were not crap? Well the fans arenāt,best thing about this football club Weāre CRAP as you put it cause we always end up with tight fookers Look where Bournemouth are now? Weāre a bigger club than them they just have someone willing to spend My point is, people say sell it to someone who wants to put money in, who is to say there is anyone who wants to put serious money in as if its that easy.
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Post by socrates on Mar 14, 2019 20:51:27 GMT
I remember one of Waels first interviews. This , pretty much to the word. ā My family think Iām mad , but I love football and I can see what a great club this is and Iām ambitious and want to build this club from the ground up , evolution not revolution , they think Iām mad but I talked them in to it and slowly they are becoming more interested ā
It would seem the obstacles that the family have faced along the way have left Wael fighting a corner on his own with the majority of our supporters in one of the other corners and his family in another corner . That leaves one more corner.
If he can find an investor to support him in his vision , and yes I do believe he has one , then maybe he can achieve what his aim was when his family bought the club 3 years ago.
I donāt hold my breathe though.
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