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Post by neilv93 on Mar 27, 2019 8:29:31 GMT
A tad late but shame to see what was happening to Sterling and Rose on Monday night, and we're no better in this country. Mental that this type of discrimination et al is still happening in 2019...
How do authorities combat it? Ban the likes of Montenegro from competition? Stadium bans again? Mind you, not that I think UEFA/FIFA will actually do anything significant - just another €10,000 fine probably.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 22:42:06 GMT
I'm not sure I agree we are no better in this country. We tend to have incidents where just one makes a stupid comment and if they are identified they get long bans from the club and are roundly condemned. Overseas, particularly Eastern Europe, there are dozens, even hundreds or thousands making stupid noises and racist comments and their own FA's deny anything happened.
I agree that FIFA and UEFA do little about it. They seem to care more about protecting their 'corporate partners' such as someone wearing unofficial socks. Shows where their priorities lie.
The answer? Who knows. I don't like behind closed door matches, does as much to affect the away team and their supporters which is very unfair. I would prefer to ban them from holding matches at home. Montenegro for example should be forced to play their opponents throughout the next qualifying tournament away from home, so if we are drawn with them there would be two matches at Wembley.
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Post by neilv93 on Apr 1, 2019 9:35:56 GMT
I'm not sure I agree we are no better in this country. We tend to have incidents where just one makes a stupid comment and if they are identified they get long bans from the club and are roundly condemned. Overseas, particularly Eastern Europe, there are dozens, even hundreds or thousands making stupid noises and racist comments and their own FA's deny anything happened. I agree that FIFA and UEFA do little about it. They seem to care more about protecting their 'corporate partners' such as someone wearing unofficial socks. Shows where their priorities lie. The answer? Who knows. I don't like behind closed door matches, does as much to affect the away team and their supporters which is very unfair. I would prefer to ban them from holding matches at home. Montenegro for example should be forced to play their opponents throughout the next qualifying tournament away from home, so if we are drawn with them there would be two matches at Wembley. This is a VERY interesting hot-take and I'm inclined to agree with you that this would actually be a great punishment. Either that or just dock them points... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 9:57:43 GMT
I'm not sure I agree we are no better in this country. We tend to have incidents where just one makes a stupid comment and if they are identified they get long bans from the club and are roundly condemned. Overseas, particularly Eastern Europe, there are dozens, even hundreds or thousands making stupid noises and racist comments and their own FA's deny anything happened. I agree that FIFA and UEFA do little about it. They seem to care more about protecting their 'corporate partners' such as someone wearing unofficial socks. Shows where their priorities lie. The answer? Who knows. I don't like behind closed door matches, does as much to affect the away team and their supporters which is very unfair. I would prefer to ban them from holding matches at home. Montenegro for example should be forced to play their opponents throughout the next qualifying tournament away from home, so if we are drawn with them there would be two matches at Wembley. This is a VERY interesting hot-take and I'm inclined to agree with you that this would actually be a great punishment. Either that or just dock them points... Totally agree. All games should be played away. It's not nice for the opposition to play in an empty stadium. |
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Post by neilv93 on Apr 1, 2019 10:09:10 GMT
This is a VERY interesting hot-take and I'm inclined to agree with you that this would actually be a great punishment. Either that or just dock them points... Totally agree. All games should be played away. It's not nice for the opposition to play in an empty stadium. Yeah it just kills the game and punishes the opposing fans. Seems odd to basically not allow to English away contingent to support their club in Moscow because Russia have a stadium ban (using Russia as an example). Agree with eric, force the punished nation/club to play away with home with no away following permitted and let the home fans take their allocation. SORTED. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 6, 2019 19:45:06 GMT
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Post by axegas on Apr 7, 2019 16:08:47 GMT
There's no place for it, in football or society for that matter, saddening to see a few incidents over the weekend too. The FA, EPL and EFL need to be give out very strong punishments for this when it occurs with no exception, good to see the Rovers players wearing kickitout t shirts whilst warming up today.
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Post by jaggas on Apr 7, 2019 18:02:59 GMT
To be fair this isn`t a major issue in our football anymore and great strides have been made to eradicate it although there is still work to be done.....The same cannot be said for most of Europe especially Eastern Europe where racism and homophobia is rife and acceptable.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 7, 2019 18:31:40 GMT
To be fair this isn`t a major issue in our football anymore and great strides have been made to eradicate it although there is still work to be done.....The same cannot be said for most of Europe especially Eastern Europe where racism and homophobia is rife and acceptable. And your house |
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Post by jaggas on Apr 7, 2019 20:55:15 GMT
wtf has my house got to do with racism in football?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 7, 2019 21:24:26 GMT
wtf has my house got to do with racism in football? how do you think they should eradicate racism on football forums such as this one? |
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Post by jaggas on Apr 8, 2019 17:40:46 GMT
wtf has my house got to do with racism in football? how do you think they should eradicate racism on football forums such as this one? That has nothing to do with the original posters point,criticism of a demonic religious ideology is not racist nor is observations on one particular community of the said religions followers who in the main contribute nothing to the societies where they settle. You seem to have no problem with derogatory comments made on this forum about the Jewish community and Indians by your fellow socialist forum posters infact your own left wing anti semitism has shone through a few times as you think the same way as the Labour party which is full of anti Jewish bias. F*ckwits making monkey noises at football grounds in your beloved Europe mainland is a problem always has been and always will be until the authorities start punishing the countries with proper sanctions rather than fine them a few thousand euros. You may want to take the moral high ground but I have stood up to racism at football risking retribution, one particular incident was at Swindon in the away end as the Indian ref Gurnam Singh if I remember right was being called a p*ki by the numbskulls amongst our fanbase.I also remember the likes of Spills Potter and co starting at their feet while I pointed out to the morons Singh wasn`t a p*ki. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 8, 2019 19:23:22 GMT
how do you think they should eradicate racism on football forums such as this one? That has nothing to do with the original posters point,criticism of a demonic religious ideology is not racist nor is observations on one particular community of the said religions followers who in the main contribute nothing to the societies where they settle. You seem to have no problem with derogatory comments made on this forum about the Jewish community and Indians by your fellow socialist forum posters infact your own left wing anti semitism has shone through a few times as you think the same way as the Labour party which is full of anti Jewish bias. F*ckwits making monkey noises at football grounds in your beloved Europe mainland is a problem always has been and always will be until the authorities start punishing the countries with proper sanctions rather than fine them a few thousand euros. You may want to take the moral high ground but I have stood up to racism at football risking retribution, one particular incident was at Swindon in the away end as the Indian ref Gurnam Singh if I remember right was being called a p*ki by the numbskulls amongst our fanbase.I also remember the likes of Spills Potter and co starting at their feet while I pointed out to the morons Singh wasn`t a p*ki. Good for you about Gurnham Singh, what would you have done if he was Somali? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Apr 8, 2019 19:39:48 GMT
how do you think they should eradicate racism on football forums such as this one? That has nothing to do with the original posters point,criticism of a demonic religious ideology is not racist nor is observations on one particular community of the said religions followers who in the main contribute nothing to the societies where they settle. You seem to have no problem with derogatory comments made on this forum about the Jewish community and Indians by your fellow socialist forum posters infact your own left wing anti semitism has shone through a few times as you think the same way as the Labour party which is full of anti Jewish bias. F*ckwits making monkey noises at football grounds in your beloved Europe mainland is a problem always has been and always will be until the authorities start punishing the countries with proper sanctions rather than fine them a few thousand euros. You may want to take the moral high ground but I have stood up to racism at football risking retribution, one particular incident was at Swindon in the away end as the Indian ref Gurnam Singh if I remember right was being called a p*ki by the numbskulls amongst our fanbase.I also remember the likes of Spills Potter and co starting at their feet while I pointed out to the morons Singh wasn`t a p*ki. I'm not really referring to a religious ideology. I'm more referring to you posting in general chat things like (and I quote) Somalians are the scum of Africa. It is rich beyond measure for you to pretend to be some kind of pillar of racial equality on this thread whilst you spout racist bile on another. The worst thing about it is that because you know it to be true you attempt to bring others in and tar them with the same brush you have painted yourself with so completely. You have exposed yourself. You've no one else to blame. |
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Post by jaggas on Apr 8, 2019 21:18:19 GMT
That has nothing to do with the original posters point,criticism of a demonic religious ideology is not racist nor is observations on one particular community of the said religions followers who in the main contribute nothing to the societies where they settle. You seem to have no problem with derogatory comments made on this forum about the Jewish community and Indians by your fellow socialist forum posters infact your own left wing anti semitism has shone through a few times as you think the same way as the Labour party which is full of anti Jewish bias. F*ckwits making monkey noises at football grounds in your beloved Europe mainland is a problem always has been and always will be until the authorities start punishing the countries with proper sanctions rather than fine them a few thousand euros. You may want to take the moral high ground but I have stood up to racism at football risking retribution, one particular incident was at Swindon in the away end as the Indian ref Gurnam Singh if I remember right was being called a p*ki by the numbskulls amongst our fanbase.I also remember the likes of Spills Potter and co starting at their feet while I pointed out to the morons Singh wasn`t a p*ki. I'm not really referring to a religious ideology. I'm more referring to you posting in general chat things like (and I quote) Somalians are the scum of Africa. It is rich beyond measure for you to pretend to be some kind of pillar of racial equality on this thread whilst you spout racist bile on another. The worst thing about it is that because you know it to be true you attempt to bring others in and tar them with the same brush you have painted yourself with so completely. You have exposed yourself. You've no one else to blame. Been pointed out numerous times Islam isn't a race it's a religious ideology. Somalis are not a race so put your well worn out race card away. |
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Post by jaggas on Apr 8, 2019 21:25:59 GMT
That has nothing to do with the original posters point,criticism of a demonic religious ideology is not racist nor is observations on one particular community of the said religions followers who in the main contribute nothing to the societies where they settle. You seem to have no problem with derogatory comments made on this forum about the Jewish community and Indians by your fellow socialist forum posters infact your own left wing anti semitism has shone through a few times as you think the same way as the Labour party which is full of anti Jewish bias. F*ckwits making monkey noises at football grounds in your beloved Europe mainland is a problem always has been and always will be until the authorities start punishing the countries with proper sanctions rather than fine them a few thousand euros. You may want to take the moral high ground but I have stood up to racism at football risking retribution, one particular incident was at Swindon in the away end as the Indian ref Gurnam Singh if I remember right was being called a p*ki by the numbskulls amongst our fanbase.I also remember the likes of Spills Potter and co starting at their feet while I pointed out to the morons Singh wasn`t a p*ki. Good for you about Gurnham Singh, what would you have done if he was Somali? You suggesting the numbskulls would confuse a Somali with a Pakistani? Stupid ignorant question from someone trying to be a smart ass.How about suggesting how the people in your perfect beloved mainland Europe you praise so much and cry that we need desperately as we are so weak and pathetic without them can refrain from making monkey noises at black footballers during football matches. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 8, 2019 22:15:35 GMT
Good for you about Gurnham Singh, what would you have done if he was Somali? You suggesting the numbskulls would confuse a Somali with a Pakistani? Stupid ignorant question from someone trying to be a smart ass.How about suggesting how the people in your perfect beloved mainland Europe you praise so much and cry that we need desperately as we are so weak and pathetic without them can refrain from making monkey noises at black footballers during football matches. Well, if they were able to confuse Gurnham Singh with a Pakistani they why not. It may be inconvenient for you but I don't praise the mainland Europeans in the way you are alluding to and neither do I think we are weak or pathetic. Their bigotry is unacceptable. Sorry, but you are wrong once again. |
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Post by peterparker on Apr 9, 2019 12:01:09 GMT
well The Sun are slowly progressing. Not on the front page though
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 14:19:57 GMT
well The Sun are slowly progressing. Not on the front page though Is the 2016 front page racist? |
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Post by peterparker on Apr 9, 2019 14:28:23 GMT
well The Sun are slowly progressing. Not on the front page though Is the 2016 front page racist? Not directly, however The Sun (and other rags) and it's negative coverage and obsession of Raheem Sterling over the years has done nothing to help in my opinion, like the below 20+ stories on Raheem
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