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Post by Gassy on Mar 30, 2019 17:19:17 GMT
Gritty performance by the gas against a very good Luton side, but as i expected Referee Shakespeare was very frustrating but much improved from midweek, but no points, 10 defeats at home now but i expect no further losses from now, fingers crossed Thought he left his cards at home, until he miraculously found them for Sercombe. How many times I see it at this level where the opposing team fouls so often & the ref is trying not to book anyone. He gets so wind up by the constant fouling that as soon as we then foul, it’s an immediate yellow |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 17:36:57 GMT
People focus on Upson but I think Ollie Clarke's been poor for a while Sercombe was really poor today , half arsed approach to everything he did. I’d start lines in his place next home game. We need creativity. This. Unfortunately, Coughlan doesn't seem to want creative players, preferring to have a team of battlers in his own mould. That's all well and good as we are in a battle, but if you don't create, you don't score goals. It needs that balance but letting Bennett and to a point, Matthews, go and not playing Lines doesn't bode well for me. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2019 17:38:15 GMT
Luton are the perfect team to be champions.Just above avg in most areas but a team of big fuckers and very powerful.They have the right footballer up front to score goals also. We should have enought to stay up but this team would finish bottom of we kept the same players for next season. Defence is decent, we have JCH now but the midfield and rest of frontline needs rebuilding. Our defence cost this week at Doncaster & today and were hardly outstanding v Plymouth, just when you need them to stay strong they seem to have fallen apart. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2019 17:42:34 GMT
Sercombe was really poor today , half arsed approach to everything he did. I’d start lines in his place next home game. We need creativity. This. Unfortunately, Coughlan doesn't seem to want creative players, preferring to have a team of battlers in his own mould. That's all well and good as we are in a battle, but if you don't create, you don't score goals. It needs that balance but letting Bennett and to a point, Matthews, go and not playing Lines doesn't bode well for me. Bennett, Matthews & Lines were all poor under DC it's not all down to GC. Plus getting Bennett off the wage bill may well have paid for JCH's wages |
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Post by socrates on Mar 30, 2019 17:51:23 GMT
Luton are the perfect team to be champions.Just above avg in most areas but a team of big fuckers and very powerful.They have the right footballer up front to score goals also. We should have enought to stay up but this team would finish bottom of we kept the same players for next season. Defence is decent, we have JCH now but the midfield and rest of frontline needs rebuilding. The best sides in league 1 are usually big physically strong sides who take their chances and don’t concede many chances. Luton were exactly that today. Most of our team played ok and battled well though I don’t see what ogogo gives us that Sinclair doesn’t in fact Sinclair is better and we need to drop sercombe for the next game, he’s just crap this season and not giving us much st all. Quality player when interested and in form but going through the motions at the moment. A game sat on the bench might be the kick up the arse he needs. I’d stick Chris lines in behind Nichols and Harris. He’d create more chances than Sercs has been and Sercs goals have dried up too. I think we’ll stay up but Cogs needs to show the players not giving it 100% that they’re not replaceable and Sercs definitely didn’t give it 100% today. Kelly was poor too but probably rusty and at least looked determined and if Dennis is injured then we need to keep him in the side |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 17:52:21 GMT
This. Unfortunately, Coughlan doesn't seem to want creative players, preferring to have a team of battlers in his own mould. That's all well and good as we are in a battle, but if you don't create, you don't score goals. It needs that balance but letting Bennett and to a point, Matthews, go and not playing Lines doesn't bode well for me. Bennett, Matthews & Lines were all poor under DC it's not all down to GC. Plus getting Bennett off the wage bill may well have paid for JCH's wages Very good shout re freeing up for JCH wages. I agree too that all three have been poor this season, but then Bennett was never played with an overlapping full back (like Lee Brown, who he excelled alongside)...playing with THD may have made a difference there. With Lines, he is the only creative midfielder in the squad. He's been poor this season yes, but then again he's not had the run in the side that Sercombe has, and he's also been terrible this year. Bottom line for me is that we don't need three of Upson, Ogogo, Clarke and Sinclair in the starting eleven. Two yes, but we need creativity too. All we have in that regard is lump it to JCH and hope he makes something of it. Fortunately, he has often done so! |
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Post by bluestone on Mar 30, 2019 17:52:37 GMT
This. Unfortunately, Coughlan doesn't seem to want creative players, preferring to have a team of battlers in his own mould. That's all well and good as we are in a battle, but if you don't create, you don't score goals. It needs that balance but letting Bennett and to a point, Matthews, go and not playing Lines doesn't bode well for me. Bennett, Matthews & Lines were all poor under DC it's not all down to GC. Plus getting Bennett off the wage bill may well have paid for JCH's wages Not to mention the fact that both Bennett and Matthews were both too lightweight for the battle. It's going to be an interesting summer transfer window whether we stay up or not tbh. I'm sure quite a few contacts are up at the end of the season. Let's hope GC has more targets in mind in the mould of JCH and Ogogo. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 30, 2019 17:58:32 GMT
A very decent set of results for us today, I think. Oxford in the last minute did us a favour. (Joe Jacobson missed a pen)
Wimbledon now looking likely to make their great escape.
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Post by aghast on Mar 30, 2019 18:00:40 GMT
I wasn't impressed with Luton. They looked solid, but nothing like runaway league leaders.
I thought we matched them pretty well and a draw would have been a fairer result.
Nichols was hopelessly out jumped by their massive centre backs every time, but tried hard. JCH looked good. The rest looked just average to me.
I think Luton will be very pleased with those three points, two of which they didn't really deserve.
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Post by Strange Gas on Mar 30, 2019 18:00:44 GMT
Luton are the perfect team to be champions.Just above avg in most areas but a team of big fuckers and very powerful.They have the right footballer up front to score goals also. We should have enought to stay up but this team would finish bottom of we kept the same players for next season. Defence is decent, we have JCH now but the midfield and rest of frontline needs rebuilding. The best sides in league 1 are usually big physically strong sides who take their chances and don’t concede many chances. Luton were exactly that today. Most of our team played ok and battled well though I don’t see what ogogo gives us that Sinclair doesn’t in fact Sinclair is better and we need to drop sercombe for the next game, he’s just crap this season and not giving us much st all. Quality player when interested and in form but going through the motions at the moment. A game sat on the bench might be the kick up the arse he needs. I’d stick Chris lines in behind Nichols and Harris. He’d create more chances than Sercs has been and Sercs goals have dried up too. I think we’ll stay up but Cogs needs to show the players not giving it 100% that they’re not replaceable and Sercs definitely didn’t give it 100% today. Kelly was poor too but probably rusty and at least looked determined and if Dennis is injured then we need to keep him in the side It does feel like the midfield are rotating bad games! Sercombe has def had more than his fair share and I thought Upson did well today vs his last home showing. I'd def try Lines if he is fit as really lacked the ability to control and create in the middle today with way to much wayward long ball. Les sure about Sincs as we aren’t lacking the battle spirit he brings |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 18:03:58 GMT
Luton are the perfect team to be champions.Just above avg in most areas but a team of big fuckers and very powerful.They have the right footballer up front to score goals also. We should have enought to stay up but this team would finish bottom of we kept the same players for next season. Defence is decent, we have JCH now but the midfield and rest of frontline needs rebuilding. The best sides in league 1 are usually big physically strong sides who take their chances and don’t concede many chances. Luton were exactly that today. Most of our team played ok and battled well though I don’t see what ogogo gives us that Sinclair doesn’t in fact Sinclair is better and we need to drop sercombe for the next game, he’s just crap this season and not giving us much st all. Quality player when interested and in form but going through the motions at the moment. A game sat on the bench might be the kick up the arse he needs. I’d stick Chris lines in behind Nichols and Harris. He’d create more chances than Sercs has been and Sercs goals have dried up too. I think we’ll stay up but Cogs needs to show the players not giving it 100% that they’re not replaceable and Sercs definitely didn’t give it 100% today. Kelly was poor too but probably rusty and at least looked determined and if Dennis is injured then we need to keep him in the side Completely agree with every single word of that. |
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 30, 2019 18:04:37 GMT
A very decent set of results for us today, I think. Oxford in the last minute did us a favour. Wimbledon now looking likely to make their great escape. Said it before but I think seven points keeps us up. Beat Bradford and Rochdale at home (both awful) and knick a point somewhere else and I think we'll be playing L1 football next season. Also, Wimbledon - fair play to them. Seemed dead and buried. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 18:24:33 GMT
Bennett, Matthews & Lines were all poor under DC it's not all down to GC. Plus getting Bennett off the wage bill may well have paid for JCH's wages Not to mention the fact that both Bennett and Matthews were both too lightweight for the battle. It's going to be an interesting summer transfer window whether we stay up or not tbh. I'm sure quite a few contacts are up at the end of the season. Let's hope GC has more targets in mind in the mould of JCH and Ogogo. Matthews lightweight yes, but disagree re Bennett. You can't just play battlers. You need some flair and creativity too. We got rid of or don't play ours. It will be an interesting window for sure, although if we go down (which I don't think we will), then it may not be Coughlan's problem. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 30, 2019 18:25:04 GMT
For parts of the first half I was concerned we might be on the end of a hiding but credit where it's due we stuck in there and we're more than a match for them 2nd half.
Agree we lack a bit of creativity but GC has said from the very start that this season is just about staying up & it wasn't going to be pretty. I think the time to judge his style of play will be next year when he has his own squad.
Personally I thought Upson was excellent today I think he's benefiting from an extended run in the side.
We aren't any worse off than before which is a positive hopefully a few results will go our way again next Sat & we can go to Coventry knowing a win will put us 6 points clear of the drop zone.
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Post by stapletongas on Mar 30, 2019 18:46:54 GMT
A point today was always going to be a bonus. It’s the next 4 games that will determine our fate.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 30, 2019 18:53:33 GMT
Not to mention the fact that both Bennett and Matthews were both too lightweight for the battle. It's going to be an interesting summer transfer window whether we stay up or not tbh. I'm sure quite a few contacts are up at the end of the season. Let's hope GC has more targets in mind in the mould of JCH and Ogogo. Matthews lightweight yes, but disagree re Bennett. You can't just play battlers. You need some flair and creativity too. We got rid of or don't play ours. It will be an interesting window for sure, although if we go down (which I don't think we will), then it may not be Coughlan's problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 18:54:55 GMT
Luton are the perfect team to be champions.Just above avg in most areas but a team of big fuckers and very powerful.They have the right footballer up front to score goals also. We should have enought to stay up but this team would finish bottom of we kept the same players for next season. Defence is decent, we have JCH now but the midfield and rest of frontline needs rebuilding. The best sides in league 1 are usually big physically strong sides who take their chances and don’t concede many chances. Luton were exactly that today. Most of our team played ok and battled well though I don’t see what ogogo gives us that Sinclair doesn’t in fact Sinclair is better and we need to drop sercombe for the next game, he’s just crap this season and not giving us much st all. Quality player when interested and in form but going through the motions at the moment. A game sat on the bench might be the kick up the arse he needs. I’d stick Chris lines in behind Nichols and Harris. He’d create more chances than Sercs has been and Sercs goals have dried up too. I think we’ll stay up but Cogs needs to show the players not giving it 100% that they’re not replaceable and Sercs definitely didn’t give it 100% today. Kelly was poor too but probably rusty and at least looked determined and if Dennis is injured then we need to keep him in the side I'm not sure Lines is suited to playing in the hole these days but I would still like him in the team, both for creativity and ball retention. I agree that Sercombe is definitely off the boil and it is increasingly hard to justify him starting in what everyone thought was his ideal position and the answer to his poor form. I wonder if GC has thought about playing Nichols behind two strikers? We can then have two holding midfielders (I'd sacrifice Ollie Clarke) allowing Lines to play a 'Quarterback' role. With THD injured the back four and keeper selects itself. I don't think we did too bad today - I'm not sure what many expected in a relegation battler v likely league winners contest. Luton were the better team but we gave a decent account of ourselves. Lack of form and confidence is easy to mistake for lack of effort and I don't think any of our players 'don't want it enough, down tools, not putting the effort in' etc....... |
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Post by Hudson1883 on Mar 30, 2019 19:07:31 GMT
There were many many angry folk around me today (as per usual it seems) on the East side but sometimes you have to hold your hand up and say they had too much for us today.
They were strong, organised, had quality & experience all over the pitch, with that annoying ‘streetwise’ edge to their game also. You can call it timewasting cheats if you wish.
I didn’t think we played badly however, the usual suspects didn’t really rise to previous levels (Sercombe & Ollie C in the main) without actually being that poor. I thought Upson & Tony Craig were very good & give me Nichols over Jacubiak for a start every single time. I just felt they had an answer to everything we tried to do & sensed any danger 10mins before it arrived. What you expect from the runway leaders & champions elect I guess.
I’m not too downbeat, nor were Mrs H or our friends. This wasn’t ever going to be season defining stuff, for me that begins at Coventry. Three points ahead & still an excellent goal difference to hold in the back pocket.
See you at the Ricoh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 19:53:09 GMT
Not a single fit player comfortable attacking down the flanks and only 2 at the club at all.
Were so pedestrian in midfield.
I actually believe we will get relegated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 19:57:02 GMT
Not a single fit player comfortable attacking down the flanks and only 2 at the club at all. Were so pedestrian in midfield. I actually believe we will get relegated. 24hrs ago you were saying we might stay up, today we lose 2-1 to the runaway leaders and we're relegated. Makes sense. |
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