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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 21:09:04 GMT
Most of DC's signings were average at best! In L1, I’d agree with you there but before that don’t forget he signed Taylor, Bodin, Mansell, Lines, Leadbitter, Sinclair and more, all pivotal to a couple of years of fantastic success. The odd signing in L1 has been decent ie Lumley, THD and Sercombe but a lot simply haven’t met the standard required. Hoping we can have decent summer’s recruitment with Coughlan. Really need to push ourselves on next year. You can add Tony Craig to that list of good signings. He's been instrumental in our defensive record this year. |
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Post by axegas on Apr 28, 2019 22:51:45 GMT
In L1, I’d agree with you there but before that don’t forget he signed Taylor, Bodin, Mansell, Lines, Leadbitter, Sinclair and more, all pivotal to a couple of years of fantastic success. The odd signing in L1 has been decent ie Lumley, THD and Sercombe but a lot simply haven’t met the standard required. Hoping we can have decent summer’s recruitment with Coughlan. Really need to push ourselves on next year. How can you say THD was a good signing by DC, it wasn't until GC took over and he was told to get off the treatment table and play some football. If DC had remained in charge we might have never seen him play. Because he's gone on to be a good signing for the club and he was signed by DC? Bit unfair not to give DC the credit just because he never got the chance to utilise him due to a long term injury. |
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Post by axegas on Apr 28, 2019 22:52:43 GMT
In L1, I’d agree with you there but before that don’t forget he signed Taylor, Bodin, Mansell, Lines, Leadbitter, Sinclair and more, all pivotal to a couple of years of fantastic success. The odd signing in L1 has been decent ie Lumley, THD and Sercombe but a lot simply haven’t met the standard required. Hoping we can have decent summer’s recruitment with Coughlan. Really need to push ourselves on next year. You can add Tony Craig to that list of good signings. He's been instrumental in our defensive record this year. Yes, was going to include him too but somehow forgot. Turned out to be one of DC's best signings, made our defence really solid. |
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Post by gas2 on Apr 29, 2019 2:04:38 GMT
Who will be our manager next season ? Paul Hurst it is then ?
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Post by Hudson1883 on Apr 29, 2019 3:56:47 GMT
Who will be our manager next season ? Paul Hurst it is then ? Paul Hirst and his squad full of loanee’s? Our fan base throw a tantrum when we borrow any more than 2 players from another club. He’d have no chance here. |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Apr 29, 2019 5:22:14 GMT
Out Payne Bennett Leadbitter Lines Sinclair Sercombe (if value is met) Nichols Smith Slocombe Mensah Matthews Big summer ahead GC to Plymouth if they go down We don't know for sure who is out of contract but I would guess from that list above Payne, Bennett, Nichols, Mensah and Matthews are still under contract so it will be difficult to move them on. I bet Payne will still be our player when the season starts. If we are lucky, somebody might take him on loan before the deadline and at least contribute towards some of his wages. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 29, 2019 5:28:52 GMT
How can you say THD was a good signing by DC, it wasn't until GC took over and he was told to get off the treatment table and play some football. If DC had remained in charge we might have never seen him play. That's ridiculous. If he wasn't fit, he couldn't play. DC signed him but was unlucky in that he had gone before THD was fit. It may not have made a difference to DC's fate, but surely DC should be credited with the signing. You could just as easily argue that GC was lucky to have what was effectively a new signing when he started in the role. The suggestion by GC was that he was fit but for some reason preferred the treatment room. Go back and check his interviews around the time he took over. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 29, 2019 5:30:26 GMT
That's ridiculous. If he wasn't fit, he couldn't play. DC signed him but was unlucky in that he had gone before THD was fit. It may not have made a difference to DC's fate, but surely DC should be credited with the signing. You could just as easily argue that GC was lucky to have what was effectively a new signing when he started in the role. The suggestion by GC was that he was fit but for some reason preferred the treatment room. Go back and check his interviews around the time he took over. I'm sure you can provide us a link to confirm what you have just said as fact ?  |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 29, 2019 6:45:28 GMT
That's ridiculous. If he wasn't fit, he couldn't play. DC signed him but was unlucky in that he had gone before THD was fit. It may not have made a difference to DC's fate, but surely DC should be credited with the signing. You could just as easily argue that GC was lucky to have what was effectively a new signing when he started in the role. The suggestion by GC was that he was fit but for some reason preferred the treatment room. Go back and check his interviews around the time he took over. I have some recollection along the same lines but it's possible I just read it on here. :/ |
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Post by kruger on Apr 29, 2019 8:17:39 GMT
I've heard that all the tents are staying and possibly one more coming in, you heard it here first
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Post by peterparker on Apr 29, 2019 8:18:33 GMT
The suggestion by GC was that he was fit but for some reason preferred the treatment room. Go back and check his interviews around the time he took over. I have some recollection along the same lines but it's possible I just read it on here. :/ No idea if it was said, but it doesn't have to reflect negatively on anybody as such
It may just have been a mental thing with THD. Coming back after a long injury, your mind is holding you back ebven if you are physically fit
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 29, 2019 10:11:29 GMT
The suggestion by GC was that he was fit but for some reason preferred the treatment room. Go back and check his interviews around the time he took over. I'm sure you can provide us a link to confirm what you have just said as fact ? Just go back to his YouTube interviews around the Sunderland game as I said, do you really think it was just a coincidence that THD miraculously got fit the week GC took over and then played virtually every game until he picked up a different injury? |
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 29, 2019 10:20:12 GMT
Most of DC's signings were average at best! I disagree with that. Like any manager, he made some cracking signings but also some awful ones. Across his reign though he achieved 2 promotions which mainly tells you the players were competent and good enough for the leagues they were promoted from. Jake Gosling for example. Great at conference level, did a job at L2 level. L1 was out of his depth. Good or bad signing? |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 29, 2019 10:26:04 GMT
Most of DC's signings were average at best! I disagree with that. Like any manager, he made some cracking signings but also some awful ones. Across his reign though he achieved 2 promotions which mainly tells you the players were competent and good enough for the leagues they were promoted from. Jake Gosling for example. Great at conference level, did a job at L2 level. L1 was out of his depth. Good or bad signing? two words... Lee Mansell - Living Legend |
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Post by lpgas on Apr 29, 2019 10:40:50 GMT
You can add Tony Craig to that list of good signings. He's been instrumental in our defensive record this year. Yes, was going to include him too but somehow forgot. Turned out to be one of DC's best signings, made our defence really solid. I think Craig has made a great improvement. Of course it helps if you keep the same defence everygame. How many teams change defenders every week? I can see that DC made good signings in Div 2 and the Conference, but Division One, Nichols 2 goals in 2 seasons, and Payne. Well it says it all really. I think Bonham will stay unless Brentford want him; but we need a wide player, or 2 . A striker who can actually shoot, or 2. and a creative midfielder, who can tackle. and I would get a right back. Minimum of 4 players. I don't know whose contracts are up but if these are out I would let then go. Partington; Smith; Slocombe; Leadbitter: Menayese: Mathews: Bennett: Sinclair: Nichols: Mensah:Lines (Sercombe: Maybe), and pay Payne not to come back. So 12 out and say six better quality players in. our squad is too big and we have a lot of players who are just about average; injury prone; or simply not good enough for the club to end higher up the table. Also we need to start feeding the first team with players from the development squad. I think Kelly came in and did a good job |
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Post by lpgas on Apr 29, 2019 10:46:23 GMT
Out Payne Bennett Leadbitter Lines Sinclair Sercombe (if value is met) Nichols Smith Slocombe Mensah Matthews Big summer ahead GC to Plymouth if they go down We don't know for sure who is out of contract but I would guess from that list above Payne, Bennett, Nichols, Mensah and Matthews are still under contract so it will be difficult to move them on. I bet Payne will still be our player when the season starts. If we are lucky, somebody might take him on loan before the deadline and at least contribute towards some of his wages. I think if you say to a player " I am sorry but you are not part of my plans, and I don't want to see you rot in the reserves, so you might want to consider your future". I suspect that has an effect |
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Post by lpgas on Apr 29, 2019 10:47:13 GMT
If DC gets the job at Plymouth he might sign Bennett Leadbitter Lines Sinclair Sercombe (if value is met) Nichols Smith Slocombe Mensah Matthews  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 10:57:32 GMT
I have some recollection along the same lines but it's possible I just read it on here. :/ No idea if it was said, but it doesn't have to reflect negatively on anybody as such
It may just have been a mental thing with THD. Coming back after a long injury, your mind is holding you back ebven if you are physically fit
A form of Stockholm Syndrome - became accustomed to the treatment room and felt at home there!!!! |
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Post by stapletongas on Apr 29, 2019 11:11:33 GMT
It’s no good knocking DC’s signings, on our budgets we don’t sign the ready made article, the name player everyone else wants. We sign the lesser knowns who have some potential with a bit of work and coaching.
That’s the way it’s been and the way it will continue.
Coaching staff are a massive part of the jigsaw
Get used to it, you’ll be less disappointed when we sign players no one has heard of.
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Post by glengas on Apr 29, 2019 11:19:08 GMT
It’s no good knocking DC’s signings, on our budgets we don’t sign the ready made article, the name player everyone else wants. We sign the lesser knowns who have some potential with a bit of work and coaching. That’s the way it’s been and the way it will continue. Coaching staff are a massive part of the jigsaw Get used to it, you’ll be less disappointed when we sign players no one has heard of. On the money there and I would add we also sign players who have suffered bad injuries that normally we couldn’t afford. DC was always cautious with Bodin because of his injury record and he was the same with THD. End of the day DC was the same as any manager some great signings, some terrible signings and a large proportion of standard signings. He certainly earned the club a fair bit of cash through his dealings and player development. |
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