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Post by stigofthegas on May 4, 2019 21:59:27 GMT
He said best players leaving, not best player. Big difference Sorry but he pathetic excuse of a footballer and has got his last pay day from us finally. Bye bye. Oh Batesy. You really are pathetically needy aren’t you? Look at me, look at me. I am sure you are delighted by the attention. I dont believe for one second you actually genuinely believe the nonsense you are spouting, you certainly haven’t watched him play properly if you do. And even, if by some remote chance you have watched him and come to that conclusion, if you had just a single ounce of class, you wouldn’t be polluting this thread in such a needy way. You sir, have made yourself look a right xxxxx tonight. Well done. |
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Post by warehamgas on May 4, 2019 22:14:19 GMT
It's not an excuse to go "we don't have the financial power to keep them." When clubs on similar budgets like Accrington and Gillingham can keep players like Billy Kee and Tom Eaves. How can anyone actually justify the situation that we're in? Like Widdrington said 90% of the players are out of contract in the summer. 90%!! Like it or not we're going to see a mass exodus in the summer, players we like will go, players we want to go will go. And we need it. But to sell the best defender in a top 6 defence in the league isn't acceptable unless he desperately wanted to go, and I don't think he would. The thing we will most miss about Lockyer in my opinion is the leadership aspect, do we really have any other leaders on the pitch? Craig maybe, Ollie CLarke maybe. I wonder where he'll go though, whilst someone in the comments has pointed out that Forest wanted Lockyer. The reason they wanted him is because they apparently wanted him at RB as a backup target to Sam Byram. The same Tom Eaves who is about to leave Gillingham on a free after not signing a contract? Exactly. It’s a shame if he is going but I suspect we’re not really different from most League 1 and League 2 clubs. The best players from these clubs will go higher up as they always have done. No real surprise, its happened and will probably happen again. Shame but that’s life in lower leagues. UTG! UTG! |
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Post by Gassy on May 4, 2019 22:18:53 GMT
People use Eaves as their reasoning this happens all the time. Anyone remember how many of their best played left in the last 2 years for nothing/peanuts?
This is the whole point. It happens every now and then, fine. With us it’s once/twice a season.
Still looking for someone to show me a club this keeps happening to as well...
Simply put, there isn’t!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 22:23:58 GMT
People use Eaves as their reasoning this happens all the time. Anyone remember how many of their best played left in the last 2 years for nothing/peanuts? This is the whole point. It happens every now and then, fine. With us it’s once/twice a season. Still looking for someone to show me a club this keeps happening to as well... Simply put, there isn’t! Practically speaking, what should the club have done? Taylor? Bodin? Lockyer? |
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Post by pirate on May 4, 2019 22:28:46 GMT
Thanks for the memories Tom. I wish you nothing but the best. Always gave 110% and wore the quarters with pride and passion. Will be hard to replace on the pitch and around the club in general.
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Post by Hudson1883 on May 4, 2019 22:29:35 GMT
If he doesn’t want to sign on the dotted line, who can make him? Seriously?
Any old chance to bash the club. Lockyer doesn’t want to stay and that’s his call. We move on.
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Post by Gassy on May 4, 2019 22:29:44 GMT
People use Eaves as their reasoning this happens all the time. Anyone remember how many of their best played left in the last 2 years for nothing/peanuts? This is the whole point. It happens every now and then, fine. With us it’s once/twice a season. Still looking for someone to show me a club this keeps happening to as well... Simply put, there isn’t! Practically speaking, what should the club have done? Taylor? Bodin? Lockyer? Well it’s hard for me to say, because I don’t negotiate contracts in football, however that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t criticize a bad job. With Taylor & Lockyer we should have opened negotiations earlier. Taylor was out of contract going from L2 to L1. We only offered him a contract once promoted. Even then he nearly went to Oxford. If we came at him half way through L2 season he wouldn’t risk saying no IMO. TL we should never sign someone like him on an 18 month contract. How on earth TN gets 2/3 years but TL gets 18 months is beyond pathetic. Would you agree? |
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Post by degas on May 4, 2019 22:47:18 GMT
I for one will be sorry to see him depart the club. Not only will we be missing him as a player which is sad we will again see the loss of revenue from a sale which is badly needed to add to our turnover which in turn helps us compete in L1 next year.
To have to battle against clubs which are larger than ours (Ipswich, Sunderland, etc) in terms of revenue is bad enough but to do so through the disadvantage of battling with one arm tied behind our backs due to not getting the transfer fees we should be getting is tragic.
Am feeling very deflated and worried about next season already which is crazy I know
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Post by mjhgas on May 5, 2019 0:25:54 GMT
Good luck TL. One of our best. Not quite Gary Mabbutt or Steve Yates but an impressive Rovers career.
Deserves the chance elsewhere to set himself up for life.
As a club we can't compete with the top ten in L1 let alone the Championship.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on May 5, 2019 0:50:15 GMT
Sorry but he pathetic excuse of a footballer and has got his last pay day from us finally. Bye bye. Oh Batesy. You really are pathetically needy aren’t you? Look at me, look at me. I am sure you are delighted by the attention. I dont believe for one second you actually genuinely believe the nonsense you are spouting, you certainly haven’t watched him play properly if you do. And even, if by some remote chance you have watched him and come to that conclusion, if you had just a single ounce of class, you wouldn’t be polluting this thread in such a needy way. You sir, have made yourself look a right xxxxx tonight. Well done. Your right on 1 account. Never seen him play properly. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 0:53:00 GMT
Small clubs like bristol rovers cannot afford to risk having players on long contracts,the simple truth is that 2 year deals at rovers and endless clubs like ours operate in this way.
Tom lockyer has been an outstanding defender for rovers and i wish him well in the future.
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Post by olskooltoteender on May 5, 2019 1:10:11 GMT
Yep. But I pay my money make my choice. But your right, supporter I am. A supporter is a person who supports his team, you are just a part time Fan Actually, “fan” is short for “fanatic” - i.e. someone who follows their club home and away, eats drinks & breathes the club, etc, and is “fanatical” about their club, whereas a “supporter” is someone who follows the team but without the fanatical element . . . |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on May 5, 2019 1:21:56 GMT
A supporter is a person who supports his team, you are just a part time Fan Actually, “fan” is short for “fanatic” - i.e. someone who follows their club home and away, eats drinks & breathes the club, etc, and is “fanatical” about their club, whereas a “supporter” is someone who follows the team but without the fanatical element . . . Nope I’m season ticket holder so far from part time. Purchased my 1st ever season ticket when we were non league. While a lot of people gave up (understandably) I stood up, and SUPPORTED MY CLUB, and have not missed a home league game since. So whose the fan and whose the supporter?. |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on May 5, 2019 1:24:06 GMT
Actually, “fan” is short for “fanatic” - i.e. someone who follows their club home and away, eats drinks & breathes the club, etc, and is “fanatical” about their club, whereas a “supporter” is someone who follows the team but without the fanatical element . . . Nope I’m season ticket holder so far from part time. Purchased my 1st ever season ticket when we were non league. While a lot of people gave up (understandably) I stood up, and SUPPORTED MY CLUB, and have not missed a home league game since. So whose the fan and whose the supporter?. Sorry I should have quoted henbury the Rubbish stirrer. |
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Post by CrispPusher on May 5, 2019 1:31:16 GMT
And yet we are lumbered with two goal Tom for at least another two seasons, assuming we took on his Posh deal.  All the best Locks you have been a credit to yourself and Bristol Rovers. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 5, 2019 2:48:33 GMT
Shambles. Let a key player, probably one with some value leave for free. So amateur it's unbelievable. Bit disappointed in Tom too if I'm honest, the club make no money. I don’t know if Tom can take any blame on this really, to be fair. 18 months ago we should have tied him to the club for far longer. He was already a Welsh international and captain of the club then and clearly a potential big asset to us. It is completely gutting. Now we’ve lost Taylor, Bodin, Harrison, Brown and Lockyer for the combined fees of £1.5 million, when you could easily argue they were worth three times that. If you are a small club, you have to get this kind of thing right to be able to compete and we blatantly haven’t. |
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Post by Langford Gas on May 5, 2019 4:14:33 GMT
It's not an excuse to go "we don't have the financial power to keep them." When clubs on similar budgets like Accrington and Gillingham can keep players like Billy Kee and Tom Eaves. How can anyone actually justify the situation that we're in? Like Widdrington said 90% of the players are out of contract in the summer. 90%!! Like it or not we're going to see a mass exodus in the summer, players we like will go, players we want to go will go. And we need it. But to sell the best defender in a top 6 defence in the league isn't acceptable unless he desperately wanted to go, and I don't think he would. The thing we will most miss about Lockyer in my opinion is the leadership aspect, do we really have any other leaders on the pitch? Craig maybe, Ollie CLarke maybe. I wonder where he'll go though, whilst someone in the comments has pointed out that Forest wanted Lockyer. The reason they wanted him is because they apparently wanted him at RB as a backup target to Sam Byram. I'm not so sure we don't have the financial power to keep them, Mark Robins said that JCH came here for "life changing money" Nigel Clough said they could not compete with us financially when he tried to sign Rodman. This is very much a case IMO where the player is looking to further his career at a higher level and with that will come a financial reward for him and no doubt give his international career a boost. That is I would suggest is what we can't offer any decent player is higher level of football and hungry young players are always going to want that ,if they don't they should pursue another career. The best we can do as a club is make the most of their talent whilst we have them and after 8 years in Lockyers case I think we have, good competitor, good athelete put his body on the line but a liability with time on the ball. If he does go I hope he does well |
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Post by Langford Gas on May 5, 2019 4:19:22 GMT
A player is highly regarded by his league one club with a year or so left on his contract. The club offers him a long term extension The player wants to keep his long term options open and expresses a willingness to sign only a short extension - 18 months. The club has to decide whether to market him for sale or accept they have little choice but to give him the 18 month deal he wants. The player decides he won't be sold against his will. They club agree terms on the 18 month extension. The player chooses to run down his latest contract and has no interest in listening to any more offers from the club. The players deal reaches his expiry and we all learn he will likely leave as a a free agent. Could someone please explain how a club could get the player to either sign a long term deal or be sold like an object. Thumbscrews and water boarding do not count. And that sir is the perfect sypnopsis of the modern day footballer, best post on this thread |
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Post by holderz on May 5, 2019 6:08:30 GMT
I have already wished Tom well on this thread and defended the club who were virtually powerless to stop this happening now, but in hind sight was it the best move for the club to offer him the extension 18 months ago, knowing that he would pass the 24 years of age during the extension period and be in a position to leave on a free ?
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Post by simon1883 on May 5, 2019 6:12:13 GMT
If he is out of contract that is extremely bad given he was one of our only real assets He extended his deal in January 2018, surely we wouldn't be stupid enough to have given him an 18 month contract extension? www.bbc.com/sport/football/42649584Tom signed a deal in April 2016 & January 2018. If it turns out the TL is out of contract then I will be absolutely furious with this board. Wael and Starnes both told me before the game that he goes for nothing. All they could say was, that’s football...... |
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