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Post by singupgas on Aug 10, 2020 21:55:22 GMT
With respect I just don't see Lockyer as a top half Championship defender...maybe one of newly promoted clubs will take him.
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Post by socrates on Aug 10, 2020 23:28:05 GMT
Activated his relegation release clause to leave Charlton. I wonder where he's off to? First possible clubs to my mind.. Millwall Luton Portsmouth Cardiff QPR Has there been any reported interest from anyone? Think QPR almost signed him before he went to Charlton so maybe they’ll be interested again Edit - actually it might have been hull... stupid memory My memory can be stupid too, I was surprised however that he was pretty much ever present in a line up in the championship last season. Tom gave absolutely everything for us in his time here but does anyone on here really think he’s championship quality ? I Loved the way he threw himself in front of everything and got his teeth smashed out in the conference fighting to get us back up but Tom Lockyer isn’t a championship Centre half. Maybe one day he will be but he never looked it for us , didn’t for charlton last season , will probably go to big club in league 1, Ipswich , Pompey Sunderland etc and he’ll be an average league 1 centre half for them because that’s what he is. He played for Wales because wales are seriously lacking central defenders of quality , it doesn’t make him a top defender.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 11, 2020 5:49:26 GMT
intothevalley.proboards.com/thread/25004/lockyer-offered-new-deal?page=1Interesting to read Charlton’s fans’ opinions of Tom. It seems that whilst he does split opinions, there are plenty who feel he is good enough for the championship. Predictably, it’s his distribution and lack of pace that Charlton fans highlight as his weaknesses, which sounds familiar. I’d agree with those who are saying he must have a championship club lined up to be leaving Charlton.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 11, 2020 5:53:15 GMT
intothevalley.proboards.com/thread/25004/lockyer-offered-new-deal?page=1Interesting to read Charlton’s fans’ opinions of Tom. It seems that whilst he does split opinions, there are plenty who feel he is good enough for the championship. Predictably, it’s his distribution and lack of pace that Charlton fans highlight as his weaknesses, which sounds familiar. I’d agree with those who are saying he must have a championship club lined up to be leaving Charlton. Not necessarily. He's going to get another good signing on fee wherever he goes I'd imagine, like he did when he left us to join Charlton. I expect he's got another club lined up but not necessarily Championship (despite being the most likely).
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 11, 2020 7:52:28 GMT
Has there been any reported interest from anyone? Think QPR almost signed him before he went to Charlton so maybe they’ll be interested again Edit - actually it might have been hull... stupid memory My memory can be stupid too, I was surprised however that he was pretty much ever present in a line up in the championship last season. Tom gave absolutely everything for us in his time here but does anyone on here really think he’s championship quality ? I Loved the way he threw himself in front of everything and got his teeth smashed out in the conference fighting to get us back up but Tom Lockyer isn’t a championship Centre half. Maybe one day he will be but he never looked it for us , didn’t for charlton last season , will probably go to big club in league 1, Ipswich , Pompey Sunderland etc and he’ll be an average league 1 centre half for them because that’s what he is. He played for Wales because wales are seriously lacking central defenders of quality , it doesn’t make him a top defender. Thats pretty much how I see it. Max Ehmer is a better defender, and better with the ball at his feet, i.e distribution, and he's 3 years older, yet only played 1 game at Championship level back in 2014.
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Post by TAGas on Aug 11, 2020 8:17:22 GMT
With respect I just don't see Lockyer as a top half Championship defender...maybe one of newly promoted clubs will take him. I agree, I know it's not just Tom's responsibility to not concede goals, there's a reason why Charlton got relegated. Regards to a new Team, I'd imagine in the back of his mind that if he goes to another prmiter team he could be in the a same boat again and get relegated. Could be looking for a more established Championship side.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 11, 2020 8:35:06 GMT
Locks is a starter for Wales, he did well at Charlton last season without setting the world alight, he's a clever footballer with some limitations. If you play him in the right system alongside players that compliment his style he'll do well in the Championship. There's an odd idea that Championship defenders need to be complete defenders. They don't.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 11, 2020 8:40:42 GMT
Locks is a starter for Wales, he did well at Charlton last season without setting the world alight, he's a clever footballer with some limitations. If you play him in the right system alongside players that compliment his style he'll do well in the Championship. There's an odd idea that Championship defenders need to be complete defenders. They don't. "Nice jacket, Locks."
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Aug 11, 2020 9:44:46 GMT
intothevalley.proboards.com/thread/25004/lockyer-offered-new-deal?page=1Interesting to read Charlton’s fans’ opinions of Tom. It seems that whilst he does split opinions, there are plenty who feel he is good enough for the championship. Predictably, it’s his distribution and lack of pace that Charlton fans highlight as his weaknesses, which sounds familiar. I’d agree with those who are saying he must have a championship club lined up to be leaving Charlton. Not necessarily. He's going to get another good signing on fee wherever he goes I'd imagine, like he did when he left us to join Charlton. I expect he's got another club lined up but not necessarily Championship (despite being the most likely). Yes - Tom (and his agent) is pretty smart when it comes to his career. The relegation clause has worked perfectly for him and his stock is still relatively high despite relegation. There was once a time when he didn’t turn his back on a relegated club when he could have left and to be fair, that was also absolutely the right decision for his career.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 11, 2020 10:00:51 GMT
Not necessarily. He's going to get another good signing on fee wherever he goes I'd imagine, like he did when he left us to join Charlton. I expect he's got another club lined up but not necessarily Championship (despite being the most likely). Yes - Tom (and his agent) is pretty smart when it comes to his career. The relegation clause has worked perfectly for him and his stock is still relatively high despite relegation. There was once a time when he didn’t turn his back on a relegated club when he could have left and to be fair, that was also absolutely the right decision for his career. Also worth noting he was only 19 there, playing 4th/5th tier senior football at that age regularly especially as a defender isn't common. It was completely the right decision as it allowed him to develop at a good level as opposed to potentially being a back up at a higher level.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 11, 2020 22:06:28 GMT
TL is a good defender and Charlton fans seemed to like him. First season as a Championship defender and whilst he didn’t set the world on fire Charlton’s defence was about mid table. Lots of clubs with worse defensive records. They went down because they were so dependent upon Taylor for goals and when he refused to play they were completely screwed. He did well for us over a few years but his distribution wasn’t the best and in the Championship I guess it gets found out quicker than in League 1. He wasn’t the quickest but he played his heart out for us and I would have thought he’d get another season there before clubs decide he’s better in League 1. Despite his faults he’s an intelligent player who will cover his deficiencies by using the better players he’s surrounded by to dig him out of any holes. And not many players had played the number of games he had by his age with two promotions. UTG!
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 12, 2020 8:18:19 GMT
I sometimes wonder if we expect to much from our defenders in the modern game. It does not seem to be enough to carry out the 'definition' of the term defend and the modern game demands that 'fullbacks' double up as flying wingers and centre backs become creative ball playing maestro's. If you wanted someone to fight your corner in a backs to the wall defensive situation then Tom would be right at the top of your preferences and i have always seen him as solid full back who will win a tackle but then struggle to play even the simplest 10 yard pass!, to sum up, put him in a back line with the likes of Alfie . Ehmer, Craig and co and he will do a job, how far that will take him ,who knows, but after being released by Cardiff, i think he has worked very hard to make it and will continue to do so, his coaches must appreciate what he brings to a team as he seems to be an automatic choice , in short Tom has made the absolute most of his talents and good luck to him.
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Post by kampucheagas on Aug 12, 2020 9:50:10 GMT
I met Tom before the Crawley game back end of the famous LG 2 promotion season
A really down to earth lad. And a dependable, hardly ever injured, solid defender. Would start in my 11 every time. Hope he finds a championship team as I think he will develop into a class act.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Aug 12, 2020 17:41:57 GMT
Locks is a starter for Wales, he did well at Charlton last season without setting the world alight, he's a clever footballer with some limitations. If you play him in the right system alongside players that compliment his style he'll do well in the Championship. There's an odd idea that Championship defenders need to be complete defenders. They don't. Completely agree. If a Championship defender is the complete package he won't be in the Championship for long. He will be in the Premiership and playing for a top team.
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Post by onedaygas83 on Aug 12, 2020 18:02:12 GMT
Dont think tom is a championship player by a country mile. Decent league one player but that's it in my eyes. Yes hes played for Wales but let's face it the only decent players they have are midfielders and strikers. Think he should of shown a bit more respect to Charlton and let's be honest if their appeal gets overturned he would be withdrawing his release clause in a flash! I cant see many if any championship clubs taking him on next season.
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Post by alanrg on Aug 29, 2020 15:54:12 GMT
Doing the rounds that Tom Lockyer is set 2 sign 4 Luton Town
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 29, 2020 16:06:36 GMT
Doing the rounds that Tom Lockyer is set 2 sign 4 Luton Town That would be a great move for him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 16:08:59 GMT
Doing the rounds that Tom Lockyer is set 2 sign 4 Luton Town That would be a great move for him. Another relegation fight on his hands after being linked with QPR? It’s an ok move but not great
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 29, 2020 17:09:14 GMT
Done deal apparently with a 3 year contract, I wonder if he's negotiated another relegation get out clause, a bottom 6 side must now be his level
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 17:11:49 GMT
Done deal apparently with a 3 year contract, I wonder if he's negotiated another relegation get out clause, a bottom 6 side must now be his level Some people are just blessed with good luck all their career. Lockyer is one of those people.
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