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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 2, 2019 6:45:02 GMT
Thank you Henbury and 81 for your support, I apologise to everyone for the Banned word comments, a lot of it was banter but maybe I over stepped the marked with it, sorry. I have told the truth here, people can make fun I’m privileged to work with football clubs, know programme editors and agents whilst being good mates with Championship Manager. Someone said it’s all about ego and let’s get a new section for it, I don’t have an ego, I just try to offer balance and DC left us in a mess and the board were not strong enough causing it. This is my last post on this forum for the year, I wish everyone the best, GC, the board and us suffering fans. I have no idea whether any of this stuff is true or not. Quite frankly, I don't care but I am concerned that you are causing more damage by massaging your ego in this way than the successful manager you seem hell bent on destroying. You say DC left us in a mess. Really? He bought some good players, some bad players, but in addition to the small matter of rescuing us from our lowest point and delivering two promotions, he left us with a squad of players that are easily capable of a mid table finish in League 1, which is surely the maximum a club such as ours can expect to achieve. Yes, they underperformed for four months and he was sacked. GC steadied the ship and we are now back where we were...mid table League 1. Rather than leaving us in a mess, Darrell Clarke is almost solely responsible for the fact that actually, in the context of the last 20 years or so, these are good times to be a Rovers fan. So how about celebrating his achievements and getting behind our current manager as he tries to continue that good work? I do admire your decision to stop posting though (even if it is after the damaging posts you've made) and suspect that makes sense for me too. This forum has become far too poisonous and reflective of the worst aspects of our so called 'support' that has been demonstrated on the terraces of late. Great post.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 7:21:58 GMT
I have no idea whether any of this stuff is true or not. Quite frankly, I don't care but I am concerned that you are causing more damage by massaging your ego in this way than the successful manager you seem hell bent on destroying. You say DC left us in a mess. Really? He bought some good players, some bad players, but in addition to the small matter of rescuing us from our lowest point and delivering two promotions, he left us with a squad of players that are easily capable of a mid table finish in League 1, which is surely the maximum a club such as ours can expect to achieve. Yes, they underperformed for four months and he was sacked. GC steadied the ship and we are now back where we were...mid table League 1. Rather than leaving us in a mess, Darrell Clarke is almost solely responsible for the fact that actually, in the context of the last 20 years or so, these are good times to be a Rovers fan. So how about celebrating his achievements and getting behind our current manager as he tries to continue that good work? I do admire your decision to stop posting though (even if it is after the damaging posts you've made) and suspect that makes sense for me too. This forum has become far too poisonous and reflective of the worst aspects of our so called 'support' that has been demonstrated on the terraces of late. Great post. Seconded
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Sept 2, 2019 7:39:38 GMT
Good post .
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Post by brads213 on Sept 2, 2019 7:45:37 GMT
The wAy dc is going he will be managing in non league which is his standard
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Sept 2, 2019 7:48:31 GMT
Is this the bit after a divorce where the depression lifts a bit and as a coping mechanism you get livid instead? Hah
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 2, 2019 8:36:48 GMT
I get that some may feel he made a few wrong decisions. But I don’t understand the sudden strong negativity about the man who restored our l1 status after years of teetering on the edge of dropping out of the league.
9 months ago many were having a meltdown that a mutual contract termination decision had been agreed.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 2, 2019 8:46:04 GMT
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 2, 2019 9:23:33 GMT
So much hyperbole. Here are the facts: - Clarke left us 23 places higher than when he took over the club, that's a 25% higher up the Football League than when he started. - His win percentage of 42.3% is also higher than any Bristol Rovers manager to manage 50 or more games since David Williams (47.2% 1983-1985). -Clarke with two promotions is the most successful manager in the club’s history. Since our election to the league in 1921, we have been promoted on average once every 16 years. Clarke achieved two promotions in 357 days.
Now, Clarke made mistakes but the way some carry on he’s the worst manager in our history. The stats just don’t back that up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 9:36:11 GMT
So much hyperbole. Here are the facts: - Clarke left us 23 places higher than when he took over the club, that's a 25% higher up the Football League than when he started. - His win percentage of 42.3% is also higher than any Bristol Rovers manager to manage 50 or more games since David Williams (47.2% 1983-1985). -Clarke with two promotions is the most successful manager in the club’s history. Since our election to the league in 1921, we have been promoted on average once every 16 years. Clarke achieved two promotions in 357 days. Now, Clarke made mistakes but the way some carry on he’s the worst manager in our history. The stats just don’t back that up. Precisely. Nothing like a bit of "blindfolded" opinion is there chewy.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 2, 2019 9:58:44 GMT
So much hyperbole. Here are the facts: - Clarke left us 23 places higher than when he took over the club, that's a 25% higher up the Football League than when he started. - His win percentage of 42.3% is also higher than any Bristol Rovers manager to manage 50 or more games since David Williams (47.2% 1983-1985). -Clarke with two promotions is the most successful manager in the club’s history. Since our election to the league in 1921, we have been promoted on average once every 16 years. Clarke achieved two promotions in 357 days. Now, Clarke made mistakes but the way some carry on he’s the worst manager in our history. The stats just don’t back that up. Yes. And everyone likes a bit of gossip from ITKers! And it’s all believed as gospel after a few pages. 😉 UTG!
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 2, 2019 9:59:48 GMT
So much hyperbole. Here are the facts: - Clarke left us 23 places higher than when he took over the club, that's a 25% higher up the Football League than when he started. - His win percentage of 42.3% is also higher than any Bristol Rovers manager to manage 50 or more games since David Williams (47.2% 1983-1985). -Clarke with two promotions is the most successful manager in the club’s history. Since our election to the league in 1921, we have been promoted on average once every 16 years. Clarke achieved two promotions in 357 days. Now, Clarke made mistakes but the way some carry on he’s the worst manager in our history. The stats just don’t back that up. Yes. And everyone likes a bit of gossip from ITKers! And it’s all believed as gospel after a few pages. 😉 UTG! ...but Clarke gave Bennett a 15 year deal on 99999999£
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 2, 2019 10:03:40 GMT
Morning houses Just catching up with this thread. Forum gold!!
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Post by gasstrictband on Sept 2, 2019 10:12:00 GMT
As long as the roots are not severed, All is well. And all will be well in the garden.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 10:22:05 GMT
We sold and lost Taylor, Harrison, Bodin and Brown because Wael tells fibs? Pure BS. What are you smoking over there? Not at all,they all went to modest clubs that we could easily compete with if wael was true to his word about ambition,new ground,state of the art training ground,cat 2 academy. Nobody made wael come out with that crap did they? Why would you join portsmouth,ipswich and preston or even charlton when it was clear we were going to at least match those clubs. Im not anti-owner but wael sadly painted a false picture which fooled the manager and most fans. I'm guessing you're looking for an answer more sophisticated than...more lucrative contracts at bigger clubs? It's beyond stupid in a week where Bury have gone to the wall to suggest we start paying the kind of money Bodin, Taylor etc would have been on when we're losing £3m+ a year. That would be simply reckless. The reality is Wael and co made some mistakes on their communications and clearly the level of financial backing had to be reduced. That's life, that's football. These things happen. We have no divine right to any of the things you've listed and it's evident small steps of improvement are going on behind the scenes.
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 2, 2019 10:34:08 GMT
So much hyperbole. Here are the facts: - Clarke left us 23 places higher than when he took over the club, that's a 25% higher up the Football League than when he started. - His win percentage of 42.3% is also higher than any Bristol Rovers manager to manage 50 or more games since David Williams (47.2% 1983-1985). -Clarke with two promotions is the most successful manager in the club’s history. Since our election to the league in 1921, we have been promoted on average once every 16 years. Clarke achieved two promotions in 357 days. Now, Clarke made mistakes but the way some carry on he’s the worst manager in our history. The stats just don’t back that up. This is an excellent post. Please inject it into my veins.
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 2, 2019 10:35:00 GMT
Is this the bit after a divorce where the depression lifts a bit and as a coping mechanism you get livid instead? Hah "She wasn't even that fit!" ...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 10:42:07 GMT
Not at all,they all went to modest clubs that we could easily compete with if wael was true to his word about ambition,new ground,state of the art training ground,cat 2 academy. Nobody made wael come out with that crap did they? Why would you join portsmouth,ipswich and preston or even charlton when it was clear we were going to at least match those clubs. Im not anti-owner but wael sadly painted a false picture which fooled the manager and most fans. I'm guessing you're looking for an answer more sophisticated than...more lucrative contracts at bigger clubs? It's beyond stupid in a week where Bury have gone to the wall to suggest we start paying the kind of money Bodin, Taylor etc would have been on when we're losing £3m+ a year. That would be simply reckless. The reality is Wael and co made some mistakes on their communications and clearly the level of financial backing had to be reduced. That's life, that's football. These things happen. We have no divine right to any of the things you've listed and it's evident small steps of improvement are going on behind the scenes. If wael had come into the club and said he wouldn't be building anything and we will lose lots of money at least he would have been being honest. I just think during the 10th place season there was a window of opportunity to turn rovers into a preston or millwall or barnsley after all we had a good team and high attendances. Of course now we all know it was an illusion. Im not anti wael/dwayne but their mismanagement of expectations is a bit of a joke.
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Post by blueridge on Sept 2, 2019 10:59:02 GMT
So much hyperbole. Here are the facts: - Clarke left us 23 places higher than when he took over the club, that's a 25% higher up the Football League than when he started. - His win percentage of 42.3% is also higher than any Bristol Rovers manager to manage 50 or more games since David Williams (47.2% 1983-1985). -Clarke with two promotions is the most successful manager in the club’s history. Since our election to the league in 1921, we have been promoted on average once every 16 years. Clarke achieved two promotions in 357 days. Now, Clarke made mistakes but the way some carry on he’s the worst manager in our history. The stats just don’t back that up. The facts and stats can be presented to suit the agenda. No other manager in the club's history has managed us in the Conference - so let's compare apples with apples. His win percentage as an EFL manager would be something less than 40% and his win percentage as a EFL 1 manager nearer 33%. IMO way out his depth above EFL 2 but certainly not the worst Manager we've had by a long way.
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 2, 2019 11:01:35 GMT
So much hyperbole. Here are the facts: - Clarke left us 23 places higher than when he took over the club, that's a 25% higher up the Football League than when he started. - His win percentage of 42.3% is also higher than any Bristol Rovers manager to manage 50 or more games since David Williams (47.2% 1983-1985). -Clarke with two promotions is the most successful manager in the club’s history. Since our election to the league in 1921, we have been promoted on average once every 16 years. Clarke achieved two promotions in 357 days. Now, Clarke made mistakes but the way some carry on he’s the worst manager in our history. The stats just don’t back that up. The facts and stats can be presented to suit the agenda. No other manager in the club's history has managed us in the Conference - so let's compare apples with apples. His win percentage as an EFL manager would be something less than 40% and his win percentage as a EFL 1 manager nearer 33%. IMO way out his depth above EFL 2 but certainly not the worst Manager we've had by a long way. I think it was the right time for Clarke to go, however he did leave us with a squad that with a couple of additions were kept in the third tier. Something that Holloway and Trollope didn't achieve.
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Post by Gassy on Sept 2, 2019 11:02:02 GMT
FFS is this still going on?
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