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Post by Jomo on Jun 13, 2019 16:18:20 GMT
Again, at the AGM, Wael outlined the strategy. The strategy is to land the new stadium, above all else, which will give us much more opportunity commercially and raise the most of the funds to do so from the sale of the mem. He also said that in the meantime his family will fund the club. Now clearly the club are working behind the scenes on something, which is why there is sensitivity around it. Perhaps there are many parties involved. But the stratgy will be completely outlined for you when everything is signed and sealed and until that point, unless you can introduce another major investor, you wil have to sit tight and wait and see, just like the rest of us. I could understand it if Wael said that we arent developing the mem and we arent moving or looking at another site. But he hasn't and there is clearly something bubbling away. That sounds the sensible strategy. However, if most of the funds will come from the sale of the Mem, then either the Mem has a greater value than we think or the size of the project will be nowhere as big as UWE. With Shortwood Golf club closing, pity we couldn’t try the ‘Carson’s Road’ area again. Personally if we had plans for a stadium smaller than the UWE was planned to be, but with scope to extend in future if necessary, I'd be happy with that. 15-16k would be sufficient in the short to medium term providing it had other facilities for bringing in non-matchday revenue. If the stadium could be expanded later to 20-25k then that would be ideal. There goes me talking about it like it could actually happen. I'm still sceptical but ever hopeful.
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Post by knowall on Jun 13, 2019 19:11:42 GMT
Honesty from Wael Al-Qadi would be a good starting point. Let's hear from him. Let's hear some clear communication about "the strategy". That might just heal the rift. The support base is split, that's not healthy. Mind you it's probably 50% couldn't give a f*ck, 25% mistrust them, and 25% give them the benefit of the doubt. I am making these numbers up. Again, at the AGM, Wael outlined the strategy. The strategy is to land the new stadium, above all else, which will give us much more opportunity commercially and raise the most of the funds to do so from the sale of the mem. He also said that in the meantime his family will fund the club. Now clearly the club are working behind the scenes on something, which is why there is sensitivity around it. Perhaps there are many parties involved. But the stratgy will be completely outlined for you when everything is signed and sealed and until that point, unless you can introduce another major investor, you wil have to sit tight and wait and see, just like the rest of us. I could understand it if Wael said that we arent developing the mem and we arent moving or looking at another site. But he hasn't and there is clearly something bubbling away. Yes there is something happening but Wael is not the architect. He may claim it for himself, but make no mistake the one to applaud is not him. I wish him no ill because he stepped in when someone had to, and in my view we must thank him, but he has not been able to progress the Club further. In due course the truth will out, and I hope people will get behind those who are driving this. If they do, then the future is good.
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Post by pucklegas on Jun 13, 2019 19:38:00 GMT
Again, at the AGM, Wael outlined the strategy. The strategy is to land the new stadium, above all else, which will give us much more opportunity commercially and raise the most of the funds to do so from the sale of the mem. He also said that in the meantime his family will fund the club. Now clearly the club are working behind the scenes on something, which is why there is sensitivity around it. Perhaps there are many parties involved. But the stratgy will be completely outlined for you when everything is signed and sealed and until that point, unless you can introduce another major investor, you wil have to sit tight and wait and see, just like the rest of us. I could understand it if Wael said that we arent developing the mem and we arent moving or looking at another site. But he hasn't and there is clearly something bubbling away. Yes there is something happening but Wael is not the architect. He may claim it for himself, but make no mistake the one to applaud is not him. I wish him no ill because he stepped in when someone had to, and in my view we must thank him, but he has not been able to progress the Club further. In due course the truth will out, and I hope people will get behind those who are driving this. If they do, then the future is good. Is this to do with the fruit market rumours?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 13, 2019 19:45:21 GMT
Again, at the AGM, Wael outlined the strategy. The strategy is to land the new stadium, above all else, which will give us much more opportunity commercially and raise the most of the funds to do so from the sale of the mem. He also said that in the meantime his family will fund the club. Now clearly the club are working behind the scenes on something, which is why there is sensitivity around it. Perhaps there are many parties involved. But the stratgy will be completely outlined for you when everything is signed and sealed and until that point, unless you can introduce another major investor, you wil have to sit tight and wait and see, just like the rest of us. I could understand it if Wael said that we arent developing the mem and we arent moving or looking at another site. But he hasn't and there is clearly something bubbling away. Yes there is something happening but Wael is not the architect. He may claim it for himself, but make no mistake the one to applaud is not him. I wish him no ill because he stepped in when someone had to, and in my view we must thank him, but he has not been able to progress the Club further. In due course the truth will out, and I hope people will get behind those who are driving this. If they do, then the future is good. Nah, I'm not going to get behind them, I'm going drip feed a load of cryptic sh** about them and slag them off at the AGM, see how they like it. I find that's the best way to support the people who are running the Club.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 13, 2019 20:40:11 GMT
One of them speaks....
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 13, 2019 20:42:50 GMT
Again, at the AGM, Wael outlined the strategy. The strategy is to land the new stadium, above all else, which will give us much more opportunity commercially and raise the most of the funds to do so from the sale of the mem. He also said that in the meantime his family will fund the club. Now clearly the club are working behind the scenes on something, which is why there is sensitivity around it. Perhaps there are many parties involved. But the stratgy will be completely outlined for you when everything is signed and sealed and until that point, unless you can introduce another major investor, you wil have to sit tight and wait and see, just like the rest of us. I could understand it if Wael said that we arent developing the mem and we arent moving or looking at another site. But he hasn't and there is clearly something bubbling away. Yes there is something happening but Wael is not the architect. He may claim it for himself, but make no mistake the one to applaud is not him. I wish him no ill because he stepped in when someone had to, and in my view we must thank him, but he has not been able to progress the Club further. In due course the truth will out, and I hope people will get behind those who are driving this. If they do, then the future is good. What's stopping the truth getting out now, assuming of course there is any truth to actual get out?
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Post by johnmalyckyj on Jun 13, 2019 21:50:19 GMT
Honesty from Wael Al-Qadi would be a good starting point. Let's hear from him. Let's hear some clear communication about "the strategy". That might just heal the rift. The support base is split, that's not healthy. Mind you it's probably 50% couldn't give a f*ck, 25% mistrust them, and 25% give them the benefit of the doubt. I am making these numbers up. Again, at the AGM, Wael outlined the strategy. The strategy is to land the new stadium, above all else, which will give us much more opportunity commercially and raise the most of the funds to do so from the sale of the mem. He also said that in the meantime his family will fund the club. Now clearly the club are working behind the scenes on something, which is why there is sensitivity around it. Perhaps there are many parties involved. But the stratgy will be completely outlined for you when everything is signed and sealed and until that point, unless you can introduce another major investor, you wil have to sit tight and wait and see, just like the rest of us. I could understand it if Wael said that we arent developing the mem and we arent moving or looking at another site. But he hasn't and there is clearly something bubbling away. We clearly attended the same meeting, I would add the following. I now try to avoid the message boards as much as I can. I went into the meeting "cold" because I didn't know what the latest rumour or popular opinion was. Very quickly it became apparent that there were a few people with a clear agenda against the current Board. It is also clear now that the Supporters Club and Presidents Club have issues with the Board. The reality is that the owners may do what they want, the days of lobbying individual members of the Board with a particular point of view to further a cause are long gone. The simple fact is that both of these supporters groups need to find a new role to make themselves relevant not just to the Board but to the fan base. It wasn't the best presented AGM I have attended and if I am honest a bit toe curling at times, this feeling came both from the floor and the top table who did not cover themselves in glory. However when a Board of Directors is faced with a few individuals who seem hell bent on causing the maximum amount of embarrassment then you have a recipe for disaster. When an individual suggests to the President of a company that he knows what his brother thinks about the internal affairs of that organisation then inevitably things will be difficult. I say that as a vociferous critic of the previous regime, but my opinions and questions to them were evidence based. None of the criticisms or questions I heard the other night were evidenced based. In the end I felt that the Board dealt with most of the questions fairly and honestly but there were a couple of gaps that I felt were left hanging. The Supporters Club had a legitimate question about the issue of their share certificates in respect of the Share Scheme but they should have raised it within the official business and they should have insisted it be recorded within that time, I didn't find the response entirely convincing. I was concerned about the lack of participation by the Supporters Club Board representative during the meeting and would suggest that there maybe a link between that and the issue of the certificates, why has he not been able to resolve that issue? We had a passage during the meeting when a couple of individuals complained about spending, but when challenged about what their specific worries were they were not able to explain them. Did they really want a return to the rank incompetence of the previous regime.....errr no coherent response? There was also criticism that Board members were not actually Rovers supporters, well welcome to the new reality of professional football...... I found myself thinking that if I was in the position of Wael given the level of hostility from a few individuals I would be asking myself what I was doing wasting my time and money in this enterprise. Well he gave the answer towards the end of the meeting rounding on his critics. I still feel that the club is now in better hands then it was under the previous regime, but I felt less easy than I did 12 months ago the other night but that was partly due to what I consider to be a poorly chaired meeting. The simple fact is that there are no local business people who are willing to fund Football League clubs incurring the level of annual losses that a club such as ours as was the case in the "old days". if you can find them, then good luck. The fan base is not being represented properly at board level and I say that with a heavy heart. The Supporters Club needs to re-invent itself and fast or withdraw from the board room because I really don't see the point, it's all very well to be complaining about share certificates but if the owners don't see the relevance then the Share Scheme should be folded. Someone needs the balls to say it. Kind regards John Malyckyj
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 21:55:26 GMT
Again, at the AGM, Wael outlined the strategy. The strategy is to land the new stadium, above all else, which will give us much more opportunity commercially and raise the most of the funds to do so from the sale of the mem. He also said that in the meantime his family will fund the club. Now clearly the club are working behind the scenes on something, which is why there is sensitivity around it. Perhaps there are many parties involved. But the stratgy will be completely outlined for you when everything is signed and sealed and until that point, unless you can introduce another major investor, you wil have to sit tight and wait and see, just like the rest of us. I could understand it if Wael said that we arent developing the mem and we arent moving or looking at another site. But he hasn't and there is clearly something bubbling away. We clearly attended the same meeting, I would add the following. I now try to avoid the message boards as much as I can. I went into the meeting "cold" because I didn't know what the latest rumour or popular opinion was. Very quickly it became apparent that there were a few people with a clear agenda against the current Board. It is also clear now that the Supporters Club and Presidents Club have issues with the Board. The reality is that the owners may do what they want, the days of lobbying individual members of the Board with a particular point of view to further a cause are long gone. The simple fact is that both of these supporters groups need to find a new role to make themselves relevant not just to the Board but to the fan base. It wasn't the best presented AGM I have attended and if I am honest a bit toe curling at times, this feeling came both from the floor and the top table who did not cover themselves in glory. However when a Board of Directors is faced with a few individuals who seem hell bent on causing the maximum amount of embarrassment then you have a recipe for disaster. When an individual suggests to the President of a company that he knows what his brother thinks about the internal affairs of that organisation then inevitably things will be difficult. I say that as a vociferous critic of the previous regime, but my opinions and questions to them were evidence based. None of the criticisms or questions I heard the other night were evidenced based. In the end I felt that the Board dealt with most of the questions fairly and honestly but there were a couple of gaps that I felt were left hanging. The Supporters Club had a legitimate question about the issue of their share certificates in respect of the Share Scheme but they should have raised it within the official business and they should have insisted it be recorded within that time, I didn't find the response entirely convincing. I was concerned about the lack of participation by the Supporters Club Board representative during the meeting and would suggest that there maybe a link between that and the issue of the certificates, why has he not been able to resolve that issue? We had a passage during the meeting when a couple of individuals complained about spending, but when challenged about what their specific worries were they were not able to explain them. Did they really want a return to the rank incompetence of the previous regime.....errr no coherent response? There was also criticism that Board members were not actually Rovers supporters, well welcome to the new reality of professional football...... I found myself thinking that if I was in the position of Wael given the level of hostility from a few individuals I would be asking myself what I was doing wasting my time and money in this enterprise. Well he gave the answer towards the end of the meeting rounding on his critics. I still feel that the club is now in better hands then it was under the previous regime, but I felt less easy than I did 12 months ago the other night but that was partly due to what I consider to be a poorly chaired meeting. The simple fact is that there are no local business people who are willing to fund Football League clubs incurring the level of annual losses that a club such as ours as was the case in the "old days". if you can find them, then good luck. The fan base is not being represented properly at board level and I say that with a heavy heart. The Supporters Club needs to re-invent itself and fast or withdraw from the board room because I really don't see the point, it's all very well to be complaining about share certificates but if the owners don't see the relevance then the Share Scheme should be folded. Someone needs the balls to say it. Kind regards John Malyckyj 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 22:01:22 GMT
An absolute gem of a post John and from someone I respect, you don’t know me but I remember what you did for the club many years ago.
Knowall is Steve Hamer, I don’t know what Hamer has on the Al Qadi’s but all I know is he was banned by the EFL for the recent summit in Portugal and also not sacked but banned from Swansea City.
Knowall you say Wael is trying to take the glory, the truth will come out? Who is the architect then? You are not saying it’s Starnes, you are not saying it’s Hani, you are saying it’s the Banned word Hamer and mate you disgust me.
Don’t be a Banned word and tell us who the architect is going to be?
I’m all for freedom of speech but you are trying to ruin Wael Al Qadi and if I had my way you would be banned from this forum unless you tell us what you know?
I’ve had enough of your games and sh** stirring. Be a man and tell us who is behind the fruit market deal?
If you are a BRISTOL ROVERS fan do the right thing and tell us who the architect is so we can all praise him?
Banned word siren going off 🚨 🚨🚨🚨🚨
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 22:20:09 GMT
An absolute gem of a post John and from someone I respect, you don’t know me but I remember what you did for the club many years ago. Knowall is Steve Hamer, I don’t know what Hamer has on the Al Qadi’s but all I know is he was banned by the EFL for the recent summit in Portugal and also not sacked but banned from Swansea City. Knowall you say Wael is trying to take the glory, the truth will come out? Who is the architect then? You are not saying it’s Starnes, you are not saying it’s Hani, you are saying it’s the Banned word Hamer and mate you disgust me. Don’t be a Banned word and tell us who the architect is going to be? I’m all for freedom of speech but you are trying to ruin Wael Al Qadi and if I had my way you would be banned from this forum unless you tell us what you know? I’ve had enough of your games and sh** stirring. Be a man and tell us who is behind the fruit market deal? If you are a BRISTOL ROVERS fan do the right thing and tell us who the architect is so we can all praise him? Banned word siren going off 🚨 🚨🚨🚨🚨 He won’t tell you because then he has to reveal the man who’s giving him the snippets of mis information, not like we don’t know any way. The man in question wasn’t even sat at the top table at the awards dinner instead he was cast aside with his side kick. The manager of the team never mentioned him in his speech, he never clapped when the speech was over and neither did his side kick, only people in the room not to. yet somehow we are meant to believe that he suddenly at his age has mastered the art of not being full of crap.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 22:23:57 GMT
I get the feeling Hamer is becoming like Teresa May, it’s only a matter of time and he will be driving down the M5 to give Gary Johnson grief like he did to DC.
If anyone ever bumps in to DC I’m going to talk like Knowall now, the truth will come out.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 13, 2019 22:43:44 GMT
Man alive this is difficult to follow.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 13, 2019 22:52:50 GMT
Again, at the AGM, Wael outlined the strategy. The strategy is to land the new stadium, above all else, which will give us much more opportunity commercially and raise the most of the funds to do so from the sale of the mem. He also said that in the meantime his family will fund the club. Now clearly the club are working behind the scenes on something, which is why there is sensitivity around it. Perhaps there are many parties involved. But the stratgy will be completely outlined for you when everything is signed and sealed and until that point, unless you can introduce another major investor, you wil have to sit tight and wait and see, just like the rest of us. I could understand it if Wael said that we arent developing the mem and we arent moving or looking at another site. But he hasn't and there is clearly something bubbling away. Yes there is something happening but Wael is not the architect. He may claim it for himself, but make no mistake the one to applaud is not him. I wish him no ill because he stepped in when someone had to, and in my view we must thank him, but he has not been able to progress the Club further. In due course the truth will out, and I hope people will get behind those who are driving this. If they do, then the future is good. So you believe someone else is trying to do something, when that don't even own the club?? Spending the millions required to look into a project, when the current owners, might not sell them the club anyway. You laugh at people that don't moan about Wael, but then you believe that fairy tale rubbish. Surely if there is any truth in it, they would buy the club first???
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 13, 2019 22:54:32 GMT
The reason given for Steve Hamer missing the AGM was that is wife is seriously ill, assuming that's correct I feel he should be shown some respect. Incidentally Hamer was never actually banned by Swansea, just you check the facts out, or otherwise you'll become just as bad as the other mud slingers. www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-swansea-chairman-hamer-middle-2072732So is there any milage in the fruit market rumours? Hopefully there isn't as I doubt I'll continue watching Rovers live at a ground you'll only ever be able to reach via public transport.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 13, 2019 23:00:32 GMT
Yes there is something happening but Wael is not the architect. He may claim it for himself, but make no mistake the one to applaud is not him. I wish him no ill because he stepped in when someone had to, and in my view we must thank him, but he has not been able to progress the Club further. In due course the truth will out, and I hope people will get behind those who are driving this. If they do, then the future is good. So you believe someone else is trying to do something, when that don't even own the club?? Spending the millions required to look into a project, when the current owners, might not sell them the club anyway. You laugh at people that don't moan about Wael, but then you believe that fairy tale rubbish. Surely if there is any truth in it, they would buy the club first??? I guess they can only buy the club if the ALQ's will sell for a reasonable price? The sh1thouses do seem to be using Knowall to try and force Wael to sell?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 23:10:33 GMT
Hell fire bring back 1990. The players post season celebration turned into a punch up. I never heard a whisper about it until I read Ian Holloway’s autobiography 20 years later. That was the greatest true team I’ve seen in the quarters but social media would have ripped that apart today. I don’t believe for a second knowall is Hamer but the seed is set now, it’s gaschat fact
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 13, 2019 23:22:15 GMT
So you believe someone else is trying to do something, when that don't even own the club?? Spending the millions required to look into a project, when the current owners, might not sell them the club anyway. You laugh at people that don't moan about Wael, but then you believe that fairy tale rubbish. Surely if there is any truth in it, they would buy the club first??? I guess they can only buy the club if the ALQ's will sell for a reasonable price? The sh1thouses do seem to be using Knowall to try and force Wael to sell? That's my point. Why would they spend millions looking into a new ground, when Wael might say, I don't want to sell the club. Plus they can't negotiate selling the mem, or building stuff in it, when they don't own it. Makes no sense. They wouldn't be able to look industrial it at all, without Waels help.
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Post by Langford Gas on Jun 13, 2019 23:24:56 GMT
Hell fire bring back 1990. The players post season celebration turned into a punch up. I never heard a whisper about it until I read Ian Holloway’s autobiography 20 years later. That was the greatest true team I’ve seen in the quarters but social media would have ripped that apart today. I don’t believe for a second knowall is Hamer but the seed is set now, it’s gaschat fact I guess its for him to deny now or forever hold his peace
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 13, 2019 23:27:17 GMT
Man alive this is difficult to follow. Glad it isn't just me. The last few days have been interesting that's for sure. I get the impression that things are coming to a head.
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Post by Gastafari on Jun 13, 2019 23:41:21 GMT
I'm really confused by the last few pages of this thread.
I've skimmed it and will try and read it more thoroughly when I'm not trying to keep my eyes open and nodding off every couple of minutes.
One question though. Is Knowall really Steve Hamer?
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