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Post by james246 on Aug 1, 2019 16:43:48 GMT
I think the Rovers handled this very badly why did it take weeks for us to pull out and then blame it on the Irish media, what went down in the meeting between the manager and the CEO. Another club were in or the player but he had his heart on joining us.
Something not right at our club.
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Post by pirate on Aug 1, 2019 16:47:44 GMT
I think the Rovers handled this very badly why did it take weeks for us to pull out and then blame it on the Irish media, what went down in the meeting between the manager and the CEO. Another club were in or the player but he had his heart on joining us. Something not right at our club. £££ |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 1, 2019 16:51:07 GMT
I think the Rovers handled this very badly why did it take weeks for us to pull out and then blame it on the Irish media, what went down in the meeting between the manager and the CEO. Another club were in or the player but he had his heart on joining us. Something not right at our club. why do you assume it was our fault ? |
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Post by james246 on Aug 1, 2019 16:58:28 GMT
I think the Rovers handled this very badly why did it take weeks for us to pull out and then blame it on the Irish media, what went down in the meeting between the manager and the CEO. Another club were in or the player but he had his heart on joining us. Something not right at our club. why do you assume it was our fault ? Our manager liked him and wanted him and saw him as having a sell on value, after weeks of procrastination no deal. It take less than a second to say the word NO, why did it take weeks. |
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Aug 1, 2019 16:59:41 GMT
Still need another centre back in my opinion. One with pace. I suspect some are about to realise just how good Tom Lockyer was for us... Never |
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Post by ChiefStateGAS on Aug 1, 2019 18:25:19 GMT
It's a shame the deal looks to be dead. The kid looks like he has potential and the way the market is right now, if he'd have a successful couple of seasons we could have sold him on for a big fee.
Seems to me like UCD were just trying to get more money or a sell on clause
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Post by Hudson1883 on Aug 1, 2019 18:35:01 GMT
I think the Rovers handled this very badly why did it take weeks for us to pull out and then blame it on the Irish media, what went down in the meeting between the manager and the CEO. Another club were in or the player but he had his heart on joining us. Something not right at our club. why do you assume it was our fault ? It seems to be some Gasheads automatic reaction to just about anything. |
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Post by wilkimania on Aug 1, 2019 18:51:12 GMT
why do you assume it was our fault ? Our manager liked him and wanted him and saw him as having a sell on value, after weeks of procrastination no deal. It take less than a second to say the word NO, why did it take weeks. Because negotiations don't work like in video games. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 18:54:25 GMT
Our manager liked him and wanted him and saw him as having a sell on value, after weeks of procrastination no deal. It take less than a second to say the word NO, why did it take weeks. Because negotiations don't work like in video games. GC said all along he won’t over pay 💰 for a player ... they wanted too much money ... we tried to add in incentives over a season and a percentage sell on fee ... they wanted money up front ... Move on ! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 1, 2019 21:38:17 GMT
Because negotiations don't work like in video games. GC said all along he won’t over pay 💰 for a player ... they wanted too much money ... we tried to add in incentives over a season and a percentage sell on fee ... t hey wanted money up front ...Move on ! I can't see an issue with that, isn't it what most club's do? It just shows how skint we are when we can't even pay a small transfer fee for a young Irish player. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 1, 2019 21:47:52 GMT
GC said all along he won’t over pay 💰 for a player ... they wanted too much money ... we tried to add in incentives over a season and a percentage sell on fee ... t hey wanted money up front ...Move on ! I can't see an issue with that, isn't it what most club's do? It just shows how skint we are when we can't even pay a small transfer fee for a young Irish player. We don't know the facts, I doubt we couldn't afford to pay a small fee, if we thought it was worth it. But most clubs don't pay all the fee up front now and a lot of clubs prefer to get paid in installments, a lot of the time. |
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Post by pirate on Aug 1, 2019 21:48:09 GMT
GC said all along he won’t over pay 💰 for a player ... they wanted too much money ... we tried to add in incentives over a season and a percentage sell on fee ... t hey wanted money up front ...Move on ! I can't see an issue with that, isn't it what most club's do? It just shows how skint we are when we can't even pay a small transfer fee for a young Irish player. Spot on. As I understand it the fee was nominal. |
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Post by james246 on Aug 1, 2019 22:48:48 GMT
I can't see an issue with that, isn't it what most club's do? It just shows how skint we are when we can't even pay a small transfer fee for a young Irish player. Spot on. As I understand it the fee was nominal. Nominal fee and we couldn't close the deal after a meeting between the manager and the CEO. Whats more it seems to have taken weeks for the manager and CEO to meet and decide they do not like the deal. Yet the manager had declared his liking for the player |
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Post by pirate on Aug 1, 2019 22:49:53 GMT
Spot on. As I understand it the fee was nominal. Nominal fee and we couldn't close the deal after a meeting between the manager and the CEO. Whats more it seems to have taken weeks for the manager and CEO to meet and decide they do not like the deal. Yet the manager had declared his liking for the player Bit strange. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 23:07:38 GMT
why do you assume it was our fault ? It seems to be some Gasheads automatic reaction to just about anything. It would help our case if coughlan didnt come out with a daft statement blaming the irish media! I mean the media might annoy you but to blame them is just clutching at straws. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 2, 2019 8:48:56 GMT
It seems to be some Gasheads automatic reaction to just about anything. It would help our case if coughlan didnt come out with a daft statement blaming the irish media! I mean the media might annoy you but to blame them is just clutching at straws. Don't think he was blaming the media. He was saying it shouldn't have been in the media. So who ever told them was at fault, not the media themselves. Expect we have been after lots of player's, that didn't work out, but he hasn't been asked about it every couple of days. I'm only guessing, but it looks to me like we agreed a deal, then they have tried to change it, as other clubs were interested, according to them and the press. Until he ends up elsewhere, he could still end up here. GC could be using the press now, to say that's our final offer, we won't be changing it. If no one else comes in for him, they might contact us and say, actually we are happy with that deal. Why didn't they play him and why did he come over here, if they were not happy with the deal we offered?? All thing makes no sense and being in the media, has not helped. |
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Post by bluestone on Aug 2, 2019 9:08:56 GMT
It would help our case if coughlan didnt come out with a daft statement blaming the irish media! I mean the media might annoy you but to blame them is just clutching at straws. Don't think he was blaming the media. He was saying it shouldn't have been in the media. So who ever told them was at fault, not the media themselves. Expect we have been after lots of player's, that didn't work out, but he hasn't been asked about it every couple of days. I'm only guessing, but it looks to me like we agreed a deal, then they have tried to change it, as other clubs were interested, according to them and the press. Until he ends up elsewhere, he could still end up here. GC could be using the press now, to say that's our final offer, we won't be changing it. If no one else comes in for him, they might contact us and say, actually we are happy with that deal. Why didn't they play him and why did he come over here, if they were not happy with the deal we offered?? All thing makes no sense and being in the media, has not helped. That's how I see it. Also I think what GC is getting at is that someone deliberately leaked details of the impending deal to the media in order to attract interest from elsewhere to start a bidding war. I don't blame BRFC for not getting drawn into that. Yes we wanted the player and I guess we had a ceiling on how far we would go, once you have reached your ceiling is actually very good sense to hold firm and be prepared to walk away if you have to. |
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Post by Jomo on Aug 2, 2019 9:21:33 GMT
I do agree with that but it would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall. Nobody knows what went wrong or who was at fault in reality so I'm not going to make accusations of the club, but I do wonder if we may be cutting off our nose to spite our face a bit. Pure speculation but I would suggest that the fee, if any, would have been within a reasonable amount for a club like ours to afford, and would probably represent a sound investment if he ended up being as good as his potential suggests. To play hard ball is good business sense but to a point only. Once you go so far you are risking looking a bit daft but then it's all easy to say in hindsight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 10:37:41 GMT
I do agree with that but it would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall. Nobody knows what went wrong or who was at fault in reality so I'm not going to make accusations of the club, but I do wonder if we may be cutting off our nose to spite our face a bit. Pure speculation but I would suggest that the fee, if any, would have been within a reasonable amount for a club like ours to afford, and would probably represent a sound investment if he ended up being as good as his potential suggests. To play hard ball is good business sense but to a point only. Once you go so far you are risking looking a bit daft but then it's all easy to say in hindsight. It's not hardball. Its managing very limited resources sensibly. |
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Post by reason on Aug 2, 2019 16:53:36 GMT
No Deal, is better than a bad deal!
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