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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 12:29:06 GMT
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Post by peterparker on Jul 17, 2019 12:47:30 GMT
Why? And Im Very. It wateres me off when people are so unversed in a subject like Tommy Robinson yet brand him as whatever they hear he is on TV or in the papers. Anyone
2005 Assualt (12 Months) 2011 Assault (12 weeks suspended for 12 months) 2012 Travel under False Passport (10 months) 2012 Conspiracy to commit fraud (18 Months)
2017 Convicted Contempt of Court (suspended Sentence) 2018 Convicted Contempt of Court
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Post by gashead987 on Jul 17, 2019 12:49:37 GMT
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 17, 2019 13:03:13 GMT
Not the place to be discussing tommy Robinson , this thread will only end in arguments.
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Post by baggins on Jul 17, 2019 13:09:28 GMT
Barton is a thug. A thick talentless thug. And if Fleetwood want to employ and back someone like that, they're just as bad.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 17, 2019 13:14:34 GMT
Think Rovers position on such a situation has been pretty consistent over the years. We may well employ someone with a previous criminal conviction provided the candidate has been completely honest (I.e. not kept any conviction secret), but it is a breach of contract and instant dismissal if a conviction is warranted whilst an employee of the club. An arrest doesnβt necessarily mean a conviction so it is whether the club itself considers there is a case to answer as to whether they stand by or cut loose their employee...so, for example, they may dismiss someone charged on a drugs offence if they have knowledge of the act taking place on their premises or caught on their cctv, they may continue to support their employee if they have no knowledge themselves as to the culpability of the employee. In the latter case it would be the court verdict determining the dismissal action. I imagine Fleetwood donβt want to hang their manager out to dry by dismissing him prior to the court case.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 13:28:59 GMT
Also dont know what that piece has to do with why Tommy is in jail today. Agree, that piece has nothing to do with why Robinson is in jail today, but shows similarity of character to Barton??
He's in jail today, because he believes he's above the law:
"The idea that his conviction for contempt of court is evidence of state oppression rather ignores the fact that Robinson himself knew he risked imprisonment when he decided to broadcast the footage of the defendants. He knew that the trial came with reporting restrictions, and he still decided to risk breaking them."
He didnt break any court reporting restrictions thats the point. He was thrown in prison within 5 hrs of being arrested in Leeds and spent 12 weeks?.. in jail which is unheard of! The case about reporting restrictions were dropped by the highest judge in our land as it was wrong.But they wanted to nail Tommy on some charge (or had to after his panodrama was released after he came out of prison) so they jailed him for "intimidating" convicted muslim pedo grooming gang members when they were walking by him outside the court, which is a complete joke as he just asked them how they were feeling about the case as the media can do. (Look at Tommy walking to Court last week it happened there) If you follow Tommy Robinson or any of his work you would know that in no way does his think of himself as above the law.
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Post by lpgas on Jul 17, 2019 13:46:11 GMT
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Post by lpgas on Jul 17, 2019 13:49:15 GMT
The BBC is a 2 faced lying gravy train which I no longer subscribe to. Β£1.75 million to ready an autocue.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 17, 2019 13:49:48 GMT
Agree, that piece has nothing to do with why Robinson is in jail today, but shows similarity of character to Barton??
He's in jail today, because he believes he's above the law:
"The idea that his conviction for contempt of court is evidence of state oppression rather ignores the fact that Robinson himself knew he risked imprisonment when he decided to broadcast the footage of the defendants. He knew that the trial came with reporting restrictions, and he still decided to risk breaking them."
He didnt break any court reporting restrictions thats the point. He was thrown in prison within 5 hrs of being arrested in Leeds and spent 12 weeks?.. in jail which is unheard of! The case about reporting restrictions were dropped by the highest judge in our land as it was wrong.But they wanted to nail Tommy on some charge (or had to after his panodrama was released after he came out of prison) so they jailed him for "intimidating" convicted muslim pedo grooming gang members when they were walking by him outside the court, which is a complete joke as he just asked them how they were feeling about the case as the media can do. (Look at Tommy walking to Court last week it happened there) If you follow Tommy Robinson or any of his work you would know that in no way does his think of himself as above the law. www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-sentencing-prison-jail-hearing-years-grooming-contempt-court-a8999366.htmlAll of us are subject to the law of the land. That law includes the Contempt of Court Act 1981, which makes clear that nothing about an βactiveβ criminal case can be published, if it βcreates a substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudicedβ. This is the general rule and it applies to all stages of a criminal case from the moment a suspect is even arrested. Generally, the law does not prevent reporting events from inside the courtroom, provided that it amounts to a βfair and accurate report of legal proceedings held in public, published contemporaneously and in good faith.β However, there are many cases where publication, even of the proceedings in court, may create a risk of prejudice, either to the case being tried or to a future trial. In such cases, the trial judge has the power to make an order under s.4(2) of the Act, postponing the reporting of any part of the trial, for a long as necessary, to eliminate that risk as far as possible. The maximum sentence for contempt of court is two years in prison. In the case of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka βTommy Robinsonβ), there was a s.4(2) order in place preventing the publication of details of βTrial 1β (a public grooming trial) whilst further linked trials remained in the pipeline and, crucially, before the jury had returned its verdicts.
Ignoring that order completely, Yaxley-Lennon streamed full details of the defendants in the trial via Facebook Live, published a video βencouraging his followers to harass the defendantsβ, and βphotographed and intimidatedβ them as they entered court.There are further protections of those attending court buildings, preventing behaviour which might otherwise interfere with justice or disrupt proceedings. Everyone attending a criminal court has the fundamental right to do safely and peacefully. The judgeβs power to postpone reporting is used most often when the court is dealing with a series of trials, whether of the same defendant(s), or arising out of the same police investigation. The purpose of the order is to ensure that the jury, either in the ongoing trial or some future trial, does not hear evidence, via the traditional media or online, which may be inadmissible or otherwise prejudicial to the trial process. In my 26 years of practice in the criminal courts, I cannot recall a more blatant, serious or disruptive contempt of court, by publication, than that carried out by Yaxley-Lennon in this case. It is clear from the sentence handed out to him of nine months (although he will be committed in prison for 19 weeks and will serve up to one half of that period) that the court felt the same way. It is fundamental to the fairness of every criminal trial that the juryβs verdict is based on what jurors hear in the courtroom, under the watchful eye and legal control of the judge, and not on anything they have heard elsewhere. Every jury is now directed in strong terms, under threat of imprisonment, not to search for information about the case online and to disregard anything they may inadvertently see in the press, or on television. Professional journalists are well aware of the restrictions to prevent contempt of court, and are generally assiduous in ensuring that they abide by orders of the court. They are wise to do so, if they want to remain in long-term employment, as the offence is one of strict liability, meaning that a journalist (and their employer) is criminally liable for publishing seriously prejudicial material, even if there was no intent to do so. There have been many cases, in recent years, of contempt by social media users, but none so provocative, deliberate and widely publicised as that of Yaxley-Lennon in the Leeds Crown Court case. What seems to have failed to strike home with Yaxley-Lennonβs vocal band of supporters, in particular on social media, is that the whole point of reporting restrictions is to protect the integrity of the trial process for everyone. Yes, it is about ensuring a fair trial for the defendants but, equally, the sort of prejudicial conduct, engaged in by Yaxley-Lennon, can lead to the collapse of some very serious cases. The consequences of such a development always fall most heavily on the victims, who may have to endure the experience of giving evidence all over again, at a retrial, or, worst of all, may see the charges dropped altogether, allowing their abusers to go free. And all because an attention-seeking agitator, with a webcam and a big mouth, decides that the law does not apply to him. Yaxley-Lennon was convicted by Mr Justice Warby, a senior High Court Judge, and the newly appointed President of the Queenβs Bench Division, Dame Victoria Sharp, one of the most senior judges of the Court of Appeal. They found that his behaviour βamounted to a serious interference with the administration of justiceβ, including his βaggressive confronting and filming of the defendantsβ. Chris Daw QC is a barrister who specialises in serious and complex criminal cases
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Post by falmouthgas on Jul 17, 2019 14:00:26 GMT
Agree, that piece has nothing to do with why Robinson is in jail today, but shows similarity of character to Barton??
He's in jail today, because he believes he's above the law:
"The idea that his conviction for contempt of court is evidence of state oppression rather ignores the fact that Robinson himself knew he risked imprisonment when he decided to broadcast the footage of the defendants. He knew that the trial came with reporting restrictions, and he still decided to risk breaking them."
He didnt break any court reporting restrictions thats the point. He was thrown in prison within 5 hrs of being arrested in Leeds and spent 12 weeks?.. in jail which is unheard of! The case about reporting restrictions were dropped by the highest judge in our land as it was wrong.But they wanted to nail Tommy on some charge (or had to after his panodrama was released after he came out of prison) so they jailed him for "intimidating" convicted muslim pedo grooming gang members when they were walking by him outside the court, which is a complete joke as he just asked them how they were feeling about the case as the media can do. (Look at Tommy walking to Court last week it happened there) If you follow Tommy Robinson or any of his work you would know that in no way does his think of himself as above the law. www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-video-drugs-cocaine-islam-far-right-israel-palestine-edl-a8776991.html%3fampen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/05/journalist-makes-police-complaint-about-tommy-robinsonHe doesn't think himself above the law. Because regular cocaine use, assualting police officers and intimidating journalists is shows a real respect for the laws of the land. He also seems to have stayed fairly quiet on the not insignificant number of EDL members who have been convicted of Paedophilia...
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 17, 2019 14:09:29 GMT
The whole of the parliament/ MSM and esp Labour Councilors stayed very quiet about gang rapes, You all created Tommy Robinson because you stayed quiet, no good moaning about him now, is it ?
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Post by toddy1953 on Jul 17, 2019 14:17:59 GMT
Jeez this has escalated quickly - iβll Pop back in a couple of days when we get to Jeremy Corbyn, now there one I donβt like π±
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Post by aghast on Jul 17, 2019 16:07:28 GMT
The BBC is a 2 faced lying gravy train which I no longer subscribe to. Β£1.75 million to ready an autocue. But the BBC in this case were reporting on a court case. Are you saying they lied about it?
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Post by lpgas on Jul 17, 2019 18:21:38 GMT
The BBC is a 2 faced lying gravy train which I no longer subscribe to. Β£1.75 million to ready an autocue. But the BBC in this case were reporting on a court case. Are you saying they lied about it? No, but overall it is a gravy train which needs to hit the buffers
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 17, 2019 18:32:44 GMT
moved.
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Post by Somersetgas on Jul 17, 2019 19:39:42 GMT
Put him in a cell with Tommy Robinson and let 'em fight it out. Two little men pricks together.
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Post by rosssgb on Jul 17, 2019 19:46:23 GMT
Horrible c***.
Should be held to account as any other normal member of the public or football fan would. Stadium ban and as this isnβt his first violent offence for me he should serve a long time behind bars.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 23:45:16 GMT
The pedo thing I dont know too much about but I can given you the benifit of the doubt as I dont know much info. The cocaine use - where is any proof? There was a whats app video going around online last year where Tommy was drunk on hoilday and said in "Joking way" to his friends about getting some charlie. This video was leaked and sold by one of so called mates to the media.There was no proof was ever so that he used coke or any charges just a report in the papers. Where has he assualted police officers? or intimidating any journalists? If your talking about that """journalist""" Mike Stuchbery where Tommy Knocked on his front door at 5am? Do you know how this came about? why it happened? Who was wrong? What reason Tommy was there? I wish people would stop believing everything in the main stream media and do some other reading research before quoting.
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Post by Icegas on Jul 17, 2019 23:45:52 GMT
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