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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 20, 2019 8:08:02 GMT
Individual Mormons, Individual Catholics and a good few Celebs have been and are sex pests but have you ever seen a religion encourage it's followers to become sex pests before ? fear, gilt and shame stop victims disclosing events but never before have the Police, Councillors and governments stood in the way before for the sake of diversity, the second crime here is those getting in the way of catching these perverts and that includes the BBC again ! The question I guess that should be asked is, Are the Police, all the layers of Government and some charities that are happy to hide all this just waiting for the 'hand me downs' and the votes ? Have you looked at what's happened in the Catholic church? And the BBC? Systemic cover ups from the top to the bottom!! |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 20, 2019 8:28:56 GMT
Individual Mormons, Individual Catholics and a good few Celebs have been and are sex pests but have you ever seen a religion encourage it's followers to become sex pests before ? fear, gilt and shame stop victims disclosing events but never before have the Police, Councillors and governments stood in the way before for the sake of diversity, the second crime here is those getting in the way of catching these perverts and that includes the BBC again ! The question I guess that should be asked is, Are the Police, all the layers of Government and some charities that are happy to hide all this just waiting for the 'hand me downs' and the votes ? Have you looked at what's happened in the Catholic church? And the BBC? Systemic cover ups from the top to the bottom!! Yes Hugo, it's bloody terrible, so you think ignoring the Muslim rape gangs is helping in any way ? If we have learned anything lets at least try to do better, history is a great thing to learn from but trying to hide thigs never ever works. We have had the church hiding things, the BBC hiding things now we have every level of Government the Police and the BBC trying to hide this ! |
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Post by popuppirate on Jul 20, 2019 8:44:05 GMT
Individual Mormons, Individual Catholics and a good few Celebs have been and are sex pests but have you ever seen a religion encourage it's followers to become sex pests before ? fear, gilt and shame stop victims disclosing events but never before have the Police, Councillors and governments stood in the way before for the sake of diversity, the second crime here is those getting in the way of catching these perverts and that includes the BBC again ! The question I guess that should be asked is, Are the Police, all the layers of Government and some charities that are happy to hide all this just waiting for the 'hand me downs' and the votes ? I won't debate Islam with you, but colleagues who are devout Muslim are abhorred by child abuse, terrorism or any other twisted interpretation of it. You and I know that religious beliefs are used as a justification to legitimise sick behaviour, in all religions. You also should be aware of the Vatican cover ups into webs of child abuse perpetrators. Let's leave it there. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 20, 2019 8:49:23 GMT
I am well aware thank you.
It looks like you agree that hiding things does not work ? It can only be better for your colleagues when the grooming gangs are pointed out and stopped !
Have a great day and enjoy the Football.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 20, 2019 9:34:14 GMT
Have you looked at what's happened in the Catholic church? And the BBC? Systemic cover ups from the top to the bottom!! Yes Hugo, it's bloody terrible, so you think ignoring the Muslim rape gangs is helping in any way ? If we have learned anything lets at least try to do better, history is a great thing to learn from but trying to hide thigs never ever works. We have had the church hiding things, the BBC hiding things now we have every level of Government the Police and the BBC trying to hide this ! I quite agree. Sadly, Yaxley Lennon only seems to care if the abusers of kids are non white. These people are sick bastards and deserve targeting. But as rape gangs, not Muslim rape gangs. Just as we don't tend to tar all Catholics or Christians with the same brush, nor should we any other group. There are some fantastic people out there that go after child abusers who only focus on the offence, not the background of the offender and they do so without the need to make it all about themselves. Maybe if "Tommy" feels so strongly about these things he could focus his energies more appropriately in the future and if he does, I will wish him well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 9:56:17 GMT
Yes Hugo, it's bloody terrible, so you think ignoring the Muslim rape gangs is helping in any way ? If we have learned anything lets at least try to do better, history is a great thing to learn from but trying to hide thigs never ever works. We have had the church hiding things, the BBC hiding things now we have every level of Government the Police and the BBC trying to hide this ! I quite agree. Sadly, Yaxley Lennon only seems to care if the abusers of kids are non white. These people are sick bastards and deserve targeting. But as rape gangs, not Muslim rape gangs. Just as we don't tend to tar all Catholics or Christians with the same brush, nor should we any other group. There are some fantastic people out there that go after child abusers who only focus on the offence, not the background of the offender and they do so without the need to make it all about themselves. Maybe if "Tommy" feels so strongly about these things he could focus his energies more appropriately in the future and if he does, I will wish him well. This |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 20, 2019 10:01:53 GMT
Yes Hugo, it's bloody terrible, so you think ignoring the Muslim rape gangs is helping in any way ? If we have learned anything lets at least try to do better, history is a great thing to learn from but trying to hide thigs never ever works. We have had the church hiding things, the BBC hiding things now we have every level of Government the Police and the BBC trying to hide this ! I quite agree. Sadly, Yaxley Lennon only seems to care if the abusers of kids are non white. These people are sick bastards and deserve targeting. But as rape gangs, not Muslim rape gangs. Just as we don't tend to tar all Catholics or Christians with the same brush, nor should we any other group. There are some fantastic people out there that go after child abusers who only focus on the offence, not the background of the offender and they do so without the need to make it all about themselves. Maybe if "Tommy" feels so strongly about these things he could focus his energies more appropriately in the future and if he does, I will wish him well. I can go with that. I wish you well in finding out a bit more about him, he really is not the villain the MSM make him, he has good ideas and bad ideas just like we have good and bad everything, the only thing we lack at the moment is a group of good Politicians, I have known some rough times but we always had some good Tories and some good Labour, at the moment we have bugger all apart from self serving greedy bastards on all sides. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 20, 2019 11:05:12 GMT
I quite agree. Sadly, Yaxley Lennon only seems to care if the abusers of kids are non white. These people are sick bastards and deserve targeting. But as rape gangs, not Muslim rape gangs. Just as we don't tend to tar all Catholics or Christians with the same brush, nor should we any other group. There are some fantastic people out there that go after child abusers who only focus on the offence, not the background of the offender and they do so without the need to make it all about themselves. Maybe if "Tommy" feels so strongly about these things he could focus his energies more appropriately in the future and if he does, I will wish him well. I can go with that. I wish you well in finding out a bit more about him, he really is not the villain the MSM make him, he has good ideas and bad ideas just like we have good and bad everything, the only thing we lack at the moment is a group of good Politicians, I have known some rough times but we always had some good Tories and some good Labour, at the moment we have bugger all apart from self serving greedy bastards on all sides. Yes, absolutely. All things in moderation. The Alt right and loony SJWs are a symptom of failing politics. |
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2019 10:36:59 GMT
Sorry to be disrespectful as you copy and pasted that, but the source of that piece is dogshit. care to explain how Chris Daw QC is wrong? Question on you pasted bit, i tough this case was based on robbinson's actions as they went for sentencing, as such they had already been found guilty and were attending for sentencing, so it would have no effect on the outcome as the case was over, correct me if i'm wrong. Either way it smacks of a stitch up that all campaigners no matter their political bent face, The authorities so desperate to lock em up they end up being charged where no one else would have been. (example a tv actress named one of the bastards in the bulger cases new name ,threatened with all sorts never charged ,i fully believe what she did was correct.) |
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2019 11:11:01 GMT
Yes Hugo, it's bloody terrible, so you think ignoring the Muslim rape gangs is helping in any way ? If we have learned anything lets at least try to do better, history is a great thing to learn from but trying to hide thigs never ever works. We have had the church hiding things, the BBC hiding things now we have every level of Government the Police and the BBC trying to hide this ! I quite agree. Sadly, Yaxley Lennon only seems to care if the abusers of kids are non white. These people are sick bastards and deserve targeting. But as rape gangs, not Muslim rape gangs. Just as we don't tend to tar all Catholics or Christians with the same brush, nor should we any other group. There are some fantastic people out there that go after child abusers who only focus on the offence, not the background of the offender and they do so without the need to make it all about themselves. Maybe if "Tommy" feels so strongly about these things he could focus his energies more appropriately in the future and if he does, I will wish him well. Hugo small thing but your first point is wrong, it's nothing to do with colour , you appear to have temporarily fallen into the trap so many here fall into by indicating religion = race . I know you are more intelligent than that. If anything the catholic church has been associated with kiddie fiddlers for as long as i can remember , The other christian churches tended to stay below the radar as they tend to hide it more by moving their vicars away quickly. Unfortunately you can't just focus on the offence as unlike individuals, where gangs are involved you have to look at it as a whole IE, Is there a pattern ,are these gangs linked. Yes there is a rise in muslim grooming gangs that is undeniable , the real worry as so many on here have shown ,is that when it comes to certain so called religions it's tabboo to say anything about them. Why shouldn't people talk about it and also the other dirty lady gardens out there, It's also about time that sentencing in these cases fits the crime, I've said this before and got stick for it on the original forum, when i see a case reported where someone has hundreds of images videos etc or even convicted of touching kids and gets a stupid low sentence i cant help wonder where the judges sympathies lie, sometimes it's the same old judges giving stupid trifling sentences. For years there was list of 50 or so labour mp's who were peados circulating nothing was done about it, One off labours leading ladies for years was involved in the pie network (look it up) but this is over looked. unfortunately these crimes have forever took a back seat to far more important crimes like" speeding "( read the link i posted to understand my comment). Yes its a newspaper link but this is all i could find the other articles about this pioneering unit seem to have dissappeared www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/nov/25/childprotection.societyhugo this is not me having a go at you but a general reply to the thread |
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2019 11:35:32 GMT
Mcmillan and Price were found to be perverts and rightly were taken to court straight away with the press giving publicity and locked up. Muslim rape gangs were operating in the 1990's , nothing done about it, the Police said nothing the local Councils said nothing, Gordon Brown said the girls made a lifestyle choice or words to that effect, five, ten, twenty years later and finally something is done but the press are still not happy to show it. I think this should give you a better idea of why he mentions the rape gangs now ? I've worked in mental health for 25 years, and in my experience multiple child sexual abuse cases have predominantly arisen from within organised religious groups such as the Mormon Church and the Catholic Church. Other large corporations have also appeared to turn a blind eye. If we're talking about the 70's , let's not forget Saville, Harris, Glitter etc etc whose behaviour was legitimised for years. It's not a 'Muslim' problem. It is and has been an epidemic which does not discriminate between race, colour or class. There's a big but there fella, in a few years time more data will be available on other religions that is not available as yet, lets be honest about stuff muslims are far less likely to say they have been abused for fear of reprisals within their religion so remain quite. I won't get into a long discussion with you in public as i understand how in your line of work you have to remain muted as one misconstrued comment can reek havoc in our professional life. The 3 cases you mentioned are very different to each other all i will say is in one of those cases was no surprise to locals as the parents let the perv stay over etc ,one seems to be for the time the way it was, don't get me wrong but e all know someone who slept over at a friends and got touched by the mum or dad. The other case is probably the biggest scandal and vilest case to ever hit the world and that is saville one ,people have said how did one man get that access well it wasn't just one man was it it's a whole network from the bottom of society to the top, it's intertwined with all those cases from care homes ,Borstals, DC, boarding and day schools, which will never get any form of convictions or relief for the victims as it's too big to unravel and dare i say it if it was ever unravelled and all those involved charged i think the country would descend into anarchy as it would involve people from all walks of life, neighbours etc . The authorities must learn from these cases and proactively seek out those who offend in that way ,bring in real sentences as a lot of people don't understand the damage done to the victims (which is ok as to understand you would have had to suffer) . I don my hat to you chap/chapess as your line of work is one i respect immensely |
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Post by inee on Jul 21, 2019 12:17:23 GMT
Individual Mormons, Individual Catholics and a good few Celebs have been and are sex pests but have you ever seen a religion encourage it's followers to become sex pests before ? fear, gilt and shame stop victims disclosing events but never before have the Police, Councillors and governments stood in the way before for the sake of diversity, the second crime here is those getting in the way of catching these perverts and that includes the BBC again ! The question I guess that should be asked is, Are the Police, all the layers of Government and some charities that are happy to hide all this just waiting for the 'hand me downs' and the votes ? In a lot of religions if someone complains of abuse,it will be dealt with by a senor male church member just think about that for a second ,unfortunately newmarket a number of those who suffer will never get to vote as who can they trust. I posted a link to an article it was the only one i could find on the work Bristol police did to convict a peado network in Bristol, take note of the hurdles they faced not from the public but from their own and government, if you think about it on a ider scale you soon begin to realise why nothing was done for so long. I understand Horfield has only recently dismantled its gallows i would volunteer to pull the lever on child molesters |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 13:47:08 GMT
Barton is a thug. A thick talentless thug. And if Fleetwood want to employ and back someone like that, they're just as bad. This thread aged well..... |
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Post by baggins on Mar 25, 2021 14:03:30 GMT
Barton is a thug. A thick talentless thug. And if Fleetwood want to employ and back someone like that, they're just as bad. This thread aged well..... Ha, didn't it just. I've suddenly got that "wish I could curl up and hope that didn't really happen" feeling. Nice digging by the way. 18 months, not bad. |
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Post by Gassy on Mar 25, 2021 17:14:48 GMT
Barton is a thug. A thick talentless thug. And if Fleetwood want to employ and back someone like that, they're just as bad. This thread aged well..... Interesting first post to make haha Welcome to the forum nonetheless |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jan 30, 2022 17:57:16 GMT
Barton is a thug. A thick talentless thug. And if Fleetwood want to employ and back someone like that, they're just as bad. Mhm. |
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Post by baggins on Jan 30, 2022 18:05:58 GMT
Barton is a thug. A thick talentless thug. And if Fleetwood want to employ and back someone like that, they're just as bad. Mhm. I've covered that. You really need to lose the notepad with your list of "I'll pick him up on that at another time". Bit pathetic if you ask me. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jan 30, 2022 18:08:47 GMT
I've covered that. You really need to lose the notepad with your list of "I'll pick him up on that at another time". Bit pathetic if you ask me. Nah the pathetic thing is having the above opinion when he's at another club and then thinking it's okay when he's at Rovers. You do you. |
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Post by biggles on Jan 30, 2022 20:33:32 GMT
when will you lot get it into your heads that
this man is not a naughty boy!!!! but for bristol rovers
he is our mesia
which other club can say that the manager who by the way has the total backing of weal
has changed the fortunes of our team
and will continue to improve us
dc walked away
the irish man went to mansfield
where is he now
bg is going nowhere
i predict swindle will not gain promotion this season
forest green have been a top club over the last couple of seasons
how can you not want them to get promotion this season!
we are still in caveman territory as far as progressing goes
but we are getting there
i am 73 this year a season ticket holder
like most, we are the gas we suffer year after year
but this club in jbs hands in my opinion
will be a club on the up
give this guy some slack!!!!!!!!!
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Post by oldie on Jan 30, 2022 22:39:44 GMT
when will you lot get it into your heads that this man is not a naughty boy!!!! but for bristol rovers he is our mesia which other club can say that the manager who by the way has the total backing of weal has changed the fortunes of our team and will continue to improve us dc walked away the irish man went to mansfield where is he now bg is going nowhere i predict swindle will not gain promotion this season forest green have been a top club over the last couple of seasons how can you not want them to get promotion this season! we are still in caveman territory as far as progressing goes but we are getting there i am 73 this year a season ticket holder like most, we are the gas we suffer year after year but this club in jbs hands in my opinion will be a club on the up give this guy some slack!!!!!!!!! No. |
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