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Post by swissgas on Jul 31, 2019 17:53:23 GMT
I don't mean to insult anyone warehamgas but the complacency of Gasheads makes me shudder. Anyone looking at the 2018 accounts would say that this business is going to run out of cash very soon. And before anyone comes back with "all football clubs rely on owners to keep bailing them out" please consider that our owners are bankers with a charge over our asset who are accumulating interest on their loan and have given no indication that their investment is anything other than secured lending and certainly not risk capital. If you were working at a business which was losing this amount of money and which had made no visible plans to instigate a turnaround would you really feel happy that your job was secure just because the owners were nice people ? People hark back to the days of Fred Ashmead selling Eastville and say what a fool he was but how was he meant to react if the business had run out of cash ? My posts on this subject may seem like a history lesson but certain principles never change. It is ironic that gasincider brought up the subject of power to the big screen because I am facing exactly the same issue now with one of the companies I am involved in. We are planning to install an electrical conveyor oven which will use an awful lot of power. It is not due in till December but we are making plans now with electrical contractors and our utility company all involved with the project. I am making sure this is happening well in advance because I cannot afford for that oven not to run in January and I am mindful that the people who will be employed on the line are relying on me providing them with the work. This is the reality of business and when you have come up the hard way you know it. We must be honest and realistic if we have Rovers best interests at heart. Our President has not come up the hard way. He has been handed his education and his wealth on a plate and, although it may be harsh to say it, this shows in the way he is running Rovers. The club is losing money at an alarming rate and there can only be one outcome if nothing changes. The football club will survive in some shape or form but I am afraid the days of 20 000 crowds and the magical atmosphere which bluebutterfly described yesterday on the Eastville topic will never return. It all seems such a waste to me when if Rovers fans were united and someone could get to Hani Al-Qadi we might be able to reach a solution which gives Rovers at least a chance of a brighter future. With respect to you Swissgas each to their own. One thing I can say after a lifetime of Electrical experience is that a large screen television is not going to need a fraction of the power required to drive an electrical industrial conveyer oven. Therefore the local electricity board will certainly not have to be involved and the size of cable required could easily be installed by any competent electrical contractor in a very short time. I for one will be astonished if the screen installed sometime ago is not yet connected to a power supply and will not be in use for our first home game. Yes, I agree, if gasincider is correct and they do not have a power supply connected it is very surprising indeed.
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Post by swissgas on Jul 31, 2019 17:56:06 GMT
Anyone looking at the 2018 accounts would say that this business is going to run out of cash very soon. And before anyone comes back with "all football clubs rely on owners to keep bailing them out" please consider that our owners are bankers with a charge over our asset who are accumulating interest on their loan and have given no indication that their investment is anything other than secured lending and certainly not risk capital. A logical alternative could be that they are securing loans to the club before lending any money that is unsecured. Where is the money from that they are lending to Rovers ; is it their own money or loans from a 3rd party who could call-in the loans to DS? A few years ago I looked at the AJIB accounts and those of their associated bank in London but there were no notes I could find about loans to related parties so I don't believe Rovers credit line comes from that source.
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Post by gasincider on Jul 31, 2019 17:57:13 GMT
How the f**k would I or 99.9% of the fans know the club has bought equipment for the groundsman that is not suitable? Again as I and others have said if things are so bad, what is the SC and the fans rep saying or doing about it and communicating it to those they claim to represent Spot on again Peter, we’ve got a bloke on here who to me it is obvious he wants Ken’s job or is a mouthpiece for Mr Fax and Pager who is scared to speak (Banned word) How is a new SC member know we don’t have enough power for the scoreboard and the groundsman has the wrong kit? Inside knowledge, he’s given his cards away, like you say Peter none of us fans would know this. AGAIN and I repeat AGAIN, he’s a fecking member of the SC, he should be demanding answer from his rep. Interesting, I’ve just been dropped a PM on here of someone I’ve never met before offering me a picture of Gasincider chatting to Hamer. I've spoken to Hamer and Ken outside various grounds around the country not to mention several times in Bristol. Doesn't mean I know them. Shaken hands with Prince Charles and Eric Morecambe. Believe it or not I don't know them either.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 31, 2019 18:07:28 GMT
I don't mean to insult anyone warehamgas but the complacency of Gasheads makes me shudder. Anyone looking at the 2018 accounts would say that this business is going to run out of cash very soon. And before anyone comes back with "all football clubs rely on owners to keep bailing them out" please consider that our owners are bankers with a charge over our asset who are accumulating interest on their loan and have given no indication that their investment is anything other than secured lending and certainly not risk capital. If you were working at a business which was losing this amount of money and which had made no visible plans to instigate a turnaround would you really feel happy that your job was secure just because the owners were nice people ? People hark back to the days of Fred Ashmead selling Eastville and say what a fool he was but how was he meant to react if the business had run out of cash ? My posts on this subject may seem like a history lesson but certain principles never change. It is ironic that gasincider brought up the subject of power to the big screen because I am facing exactly the same issue now with one of the companies I am involved in. We are planning to install an electrical conveyor oven which will use an awful lot of power. It is not due in till December but we are making plans now with electrical contractors and our utility company all involved with the project. I am making sure this is happening well in advance because I cannot afford for that oven not to run in January and I am mindful that the people who will be employed on the line are relying on me providing them with the work. This is the reality of business and when you have come up the hard way you know it. We must be honest and realistic if we have Rovers best interests at heart. Our President has not come up the hard way. He has been handed his education and his wealth on a plate and, although it may be harsh to say it, this shows in the way he is running Rovers. The club is losing money at an alarming rate and there can only be one outcome if nothing changes. The football club will survive in some shape or form but I am afraid the days of 20 000 crowds and the magical atmosphere which bluebutterfly described yesterday on the Eastville topic will never return. It all seems such a waste to me when if Rovers fans were united and someone could get to Hani Al-Qadi we might be able to reach a solution which gives Rovers at least a chance of a brighter future. As I said swiss, I have no argument with your financial opinion and agree with it by and large. Your above points make for unpleasant reading although are probably true. You clearly can’t go on doing what we’re doing without increasing income streams and improving our infrastructure. The lack of plans from the owners to do that is very worrying and leads us nowhere good. My points were more about doubting whether we ever had Championship facilities which you answered in a later post. And secondly I felt you were dismissive about people just wanting to watch BRFC play football something they could do in non league. You have answered that no disrespect was intended. I thought it unlikely that there was and you confirmed it. Thank you. I guess like a vast majority of football fans BRFC fans are “complacent” in the sense that they do not complain, protest or direct their anger towards owners about whom there are many questions. I’m not sure what effective action you would expect us to take to offset that “complacency” and possibly overcome the problems we find ourselves in. My question, which I have asked many times on here but which helps not a jot at the present time is why north and east Bristol have been unable to produce an equivalent to an Andy Piley (Fleetwood), a Gary Sweet (Luton), a Stephen Lansdowne, a John Madjesky (Reading), or even a Max Denim, here at Bournemouth or the guys at Brighton, at Brentford and some others that could do a similar job for us. The absence of such an individual who could lead us and drive us forward is a great shame. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 31, 2019 18:10:21 GMT
All sounds perfectly reasonable. Will cause meltdown with some though. I agree with you Swissgas the current losses are unsustainable and can only be stemmed by driving up Income,reducing costs or I would imagine we are doing both. I don't see further "loans" from whatever source as feasible as they will at some stage need to be repaid. I assume that TG has been brought in to drive up Income however,we won't know if he has been successfull until the next set of Acoounts. My concern is the figure quoted I think 95p in the pound that pays players wages,no business is sustainable with labour costs at that level. The issue for us fans is that the latest accounts are over 12 months old and we have no idea if our current cash flow is positive or negative. If still substantially negative I agree we have a significant problem. Sorry Trevor Gas, just after I finished my last reply to swissgas I realised you’re replied in a similar vein to me. You obviously type quicker than me!😉 UTG!
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jul 31, 2019 18:10:47 GMT
With respect to you Swissgas each to their own. One thing I can say after a lifetime of Electrical experience is that a large screen television is not going to need a fraction of the power required to drive an electrical industrial conveyer oven. Therefore the local electricity board will certainly not have to be involved and the size of cable required could easily be installed by any competent electrical contractor in a very short time. I for one will be astonished if the screen installed sometime ago is not yet connected to a power supply and will not be in use for our first home game. Yes, I agree, if gasincider is correct and they do not have a power supply connected it is very surprising indeed. Well Incider is half right. The fibre optics were installed last Friday and trials/tests for the screen happening today & tomorrow. With final preparations for the first home game occurring late next week. It’s just how you spin it, that’s all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 18:16:23 GMT
The old guard SC Brotherhood seem to yearn for the glory days of the “nod and a wink” and “I know more than you” culture as they all pull together in one direction. But the WearefaithfulandtruetoWael brigade, who pretend they cannot see the shabbiness and gross financial incompetence, are all pulling together in exactly the same direction. Unfortunately for Bristol Rovers that direction is downwards.
What about the other 7,900 who have no interest and just go to watch some footy?
Hopefully that will continue for many years to come. Some people think that experience might be under threat.
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Post by swissgas on Jul 31, 2019 18:25:24 GMT
I don't mean to insult anyone warehamgas but the complacency of Gasheads makes me shudder. Anyone looking at the 2018 accounts would say that this business is going to run out of cash very soon. And before anyone comes back with "all football clubs rely on owners to keep bailing them out" please consider that our owners are bankers with a charge over our asset who are accumulating interest on their loan and have given no indication that their investment is anything other than secured lending and certainly not risk capital. If you were working at a business which was losing this amount of money and which had made no visible plans to instigate a turnaround would you really feel happy that your job was secure just because the owners were nice people ? People hark back to the days of Fred Ashmead selling Eastville and say what a fool he was but how was he meant to react if the business had run out of cash ? My posts on this subject may seem like a history lesson but certain principles never change. It is ironic that gasincider brought up the subject of power to the big screen because I am facing exactly the same issue now with one of the companies I am involved in. We are planning to install an electrical conveyor oven which will use an awful lot of power. It is not due in till December but we are making plans now with electrical contractors and our utility company all involved with the project. I am making sure this is happening well in advance because I cannot afford for that oven not to run in January and I am mindful that the people who will be employed on the line are relying on me providing them with the work. This is the reality of business and when you have come up the hard way you know it. We must be honest and realistic if we have Rovers best interests at heart. Our President has not come up the hard way. He has been handed his education and his wealth on a plate and, although it may be harsh to say it, this shows in the way he is running Rovers. The club is losing money at an alarming rate and there can only be one outcome if nothing changes. The football club will survive in some shape or form but I am afraid the days of 20 000 crowds and the magical atmosphere which bluebutterfly described yesterday on the Eastville topic will never return. It all seems such a waste to me when if Rovers fans were united and someone could get to Hani Al-Qadi we might be able to reach a solution which gives Rovers at least a chance of a brighter future. As I said swiss, I have no argument with your financial opinion and agree with it by and large. Your above points make for unpleasant reading although are probably true. You clearly can’t go on doing what we’re doing without increasing income streams and improving our infrastructure. The lack of plans from the owners to do that is very worrying and leads us nowhere good. My points were more about doubting whether we ever had Championship facilities which you answered in a later post. And secondly I felt you were dismissive about people just wanting to watch BRFC play football something they could do in non league. You have answered that no disrespect was intended. I thought it unlikely that there was and you confirmed it. Thank you. I guess like a vast majority of football fans BRFC fans are “complacent” in the sense that they do not complain, protest or direct their anger towards owners about whom there are many questions. I’m not sure what effective action you would expect us to take to offset that “complacency” and possibly overcome the problems we find ourselves in. My question, which I have asked many times on here but which helps not a jot at the present time is why north and east Bristol have been unable to produce an equivalent to an Andy Piley (Fleetwood), a Gary Sweet (Luton), a Stephen Lansdowne, a John Madjesky (Reading), or even a Max Denim, here at Bournemouth or the guys at Brighton, at Brentford and some others that could do a similar job for us. The absence of such an individual who could lead us and drive us forward is a great shame. UTG! I have a question for you warehamgas. Do Bournemouth fans still chant "Boscombe, Boscombe" like they did in the 1960's when they were called Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic ? I enjoy watching them on the NBC Premiership coverage and I swear I can hear "Boscombe" being chanted ?
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Post by Nortongashead on Jul 31, 2019 18:26:44 GMT
I've long given up on the politics of our club suggest some do the same. As soon as you stop worrying over things you cant control life becomes a lot happier. I now enjoy going to Rovers again - true story.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jul 31, 2019 18:28:31 GMT
I've long given up on the politics of our club suggest some do the same. As soon as you stop worrying over things you cant control life becomes a lot happier. I now enjoy going to Rovers again - true story. 100% smack on the money there fella.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 18:29:30 GMT
Spot on again Peter, we’ve got a bloke on here who to me it is obvious he wants Ken’s job or is a mouthpiece for Mr Fax and Pager who is scared to speak (Banned word) How is a new SC member know we don’t have enough power for the scoreboard and the groundsman has the wrong kit? Inside knowledge, he’s given his cards away, like you say Peter none of us fans would know this. AGAIN and I repeat AGAIN, he’s a fecking member of the SC, he should be demanding answer from his rep. Interesting, I’ve just been dropped a PM on here of someone I’ve never met before offering me a picture of Gasincider chatting to Hamer. I've spoken to Hamer and Ken outside various grounds around the country not to mention several times in Bristol. Doesn't mean I know them. Shaken hands with Prince Charles and Eric Morecambe. Believe it or not I don't know them either. It’s funny, how many on here and our fan base have spoken to Ken and Hamer several times? Ok I get Ken in the bars but the Chairman of our football club, how many of you have? And very strange you’ve just joined the SC and now are coming on here asking us fans for answers when you can go to Ken? Why do you think we have the answers? What do you think your original post outcome would be? Was it just to undermine the club as owner again? A few of us know you speak to them a lot, the picture I’ve seen is more than just a convo outside an away ground. So how many on here have spoken to Hamer several times? I am an ST holder and go to 80% of our away games and never spoke to him once!!!!!! And the beet thing, several conversions, why don’t you ask them your questions? YOU CANT BECAUSE THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO BE THEIR Banned word MESSENGER.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 31, 2019 18:38:02 GMT
GI, I don’t know you. But I witnessed your pathetic and obnoxious outbursts at the AGM to know who you are by sight only. Yes I sit up in the west stand with my family and friends but it’s of no favour or privilege. I pay my way for it. You asked why the club was declined your presentation, and not just me, but a few others told you the likely reason(s) why. Are we all apostles or can we just see through the agenda that the supporters club you belong to are trying to play. Technically the club don’t have to give you any specific reason other than, no, we don’t want to. Like it or lump it. Like I said, if it means that much to everyone, why not have an awards night with coronation chicken and a few glasses of babysham and invite the winners along. Or have something outside the portacabin on a match day. I’m sure your great leader is capable of organising something. No you didn't. But you will love it if and when you find out. Remember the name. I'm Spartacus. Even funnier, it wasn't even you I was talking about. Did I say they have to do anything? No. I asked for an explanation. I have absolutely no idea what you are babbling on about here. If you want an explanation, why don't you contact Wael? He replies most of the time on instagram either on his posts or by DM.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 31, 2019 18:43:42 GMT
How the f**k would I or 99.9% of the fans know the club has bought equipment for the groundsman that is not suitable? Again as I and others have said if things are so bad, what is the SC and the fans rep saying or doing about it and communicating it to those they claim to represent Spot on again Peter, we’ve got a bloke on here who to me it is obvious he wants Ken’s job or is a mouthpiece for Mr Fax and Pager who is scared to speak (Banned word) How is a new SC member know we don’t have enough power for the scoreboard and the groundsman has the wrong kit? Inside knowledge, he’s given his cards away, like you say Peter none of us fans would know this. AGAIN and I repeat AGAIN, he’s a fecking member of the SC, he should be demanding answer from his rep. Interesting, I’ve just been dropped a PM on here of someone I’ve never met before offering me a picture of Gasincider chatting to Hamer. Gasincider is the one that needs a haircut
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 31, 2019 18:51:15 GMT
You’d almost be forgiven for thinking that some actually want us to end up like a Bury, Bolton or worse. What an absolute horror of a thread. A lot of these so called fans deserve a club like Bolton they would be very happy to say "i Told you SO" I'm happy to go along with the current owners because i personally cannot do f**k all to change the way they run the club, all i can do is support my Team BRISTOL ROVERS FOOTBALL CLUB
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 18:54:42 GMT
Forumers, this is to all of you........I have been fishing all day and I finally caught Gasinsider, I needed a fishing boat net but I got him.
* His original post on this thread asking the question re pitch side player of the season awards
* He said he’s just joined the SC and isn’t Ken and Hamer’s messenger
* Disclosed the score board cant be used as we don’t have enough power and the groundsman has the wrong kit. No one else has mentioned this
* disclosed and please NOTE he never said said a “couple” or a “few” away grounds, he said VARIOUS away ground where he has spoken to Hamer and Ken. He’s said he doesn’t know them but also publicly said he’s met them in Bristol as well.
* The words “various” onto top of meet ups in Bristol implies he’s spoken to them multiple times, he knows them 100%. I have photographic evidence on top of this.
* this man is being told club information on purpose to undermine the club and Wael Al Qadi and they are using this man to do it.
* He has just joined the SC so he can go to the AGM’s and I’m convinced again he’s been asked to.
* He can easily ask his 2 friends re the end of season awards but he’s choose to ask us to try and ruin this club again 3 days before the start of the season.
I have forwarded this to a Director of ours, it can’t go on and if I was an SC member I would be demanding Ken’s resignation, a man they can’t even make contact with.
Shame on you, I’m with South Stand Ultra, I love this club and the day our experience, you are not ruining my club. At least SwissGas offers reasoning, financial results and points, he’s no messenger boy.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 31, 2019 18:54:42 GMT
As I said swiss, I have no argument with your financial opinion and agree with it by and large. Your above points make for unpleasant reading although are probably true. You clearly can’t go on doing what we’re doing without increasing income streams and improving our infrastructure. The lack of plans from the owners to do that is very worrying and leads us nowhere good. My points were more about doubting whether we ever had Championship facilities which you answered in a later post. And secondly I felt you were dismissive about people just wanting to watch BRFC play football something they could do in non league. You have answered that no disrespect was intended. I thought it unlikely that there was and you confirmed it. Thank you. I guess like a vast majority of football fans BRFC fans are “complacent” in the sense that they do not complain, protest or direct their anger towards owners about whom there are many questions. I’m not sure what effective action you would expect us to take to offset that “complacency” and possibly overcome the problems we find ourselves in. My question, which I have asked many times on here but which helps not a jot at the present time is why north and east Bristol have been unable to produce an equivalent to an Andy Piley (Fleetwood), a Gary Sweet (Luton), a Stephen Lansdowne, a John Madjesky (Reading), or even a Max Denim, here at Bournemouth or the guys at Brighton, at Brentford and some others that could do a similar job for us. The absence of such an individual who could lead us and drive us forward is a great shame. UTG! I have a question for you warehamgas. Do Bournemouth fans still chant "Boscombe, Boscombe" like they did in the 1960's when they were called Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic ? I enjoy watching them on the NBC Premiership coverage and I swear I can hear "Boscombe" being chanted ? Haven’t heard the Boscombe chant for a year. They used to do it even in the PL. Now they have one chant all about Eddie H sung to the Beach Boys Sloop John B. They’re too busy trying to count up to the magic 40 points! 😉 UTG!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 31, 2019 18:55:12 GMT
I don't mean to insult anyone warehamgas but the complacency of Gasheads makes me shudder. Anyone looking at the 2018 accounts would say that this business is going to run out of cash very soon. And before anyone comes back with "all football clubs rely on owners to keep bailing them out" please consider that our owners are bankers with a charge over our asset who are accumulating interest on their loan and have given no indication that their investment is anything other than secured lending and certainly not risk capital. If you were working at a business which was losing this amount of money and which had made no visible plans to instigate a turnaround would you really feel happy that your job was secure just because the owners were nice people ? People hark back to the days of Fred Ashmead selling Eastville and say what a fool he was but how was he meant to react if the business had run out of cash ? My posts on this subject may seem like a history lesson but certain principles never change. It is ironic that gasincider brought up the subject of power to the big screen because I am facing exactly the same issue now with one of the companies I am involved in. We are planning to install an electrical conveyor oven which will use an awful lot of power. It is not due in till December but we are making plans now with electrical contractors and our utility company all involved with the project. I am making sure this is happening well in advance because I cannot afford for that oven not to run in January and I am mindful that the people who will be employed on the line are relying on me providing them with the work. This is the reality of business and when you have come up the hard way you know it. We must be honest and realistic if we have Rovers best interests at heart. Our President has not come up the hard way. He has been handed his education and his wealth on a plate and, although it may be harsh to say it, this shows in the way he is running Rovers. The club is losing money at an alarming rate and there can only be one outcome if nothing changes. The football club will survive in some shape or form but I am afraid the days of 20 000 crowds and the magical atmosphere which bluebutterfly described yesterday on the Eastville topic will never return. It all seems such a waste to me when if Rovers fans were united and someone could get to Hani Al-Qadi we might be able to reach a solution which gives Rovers at least a chance of a brighter future. With respect to you Swissgas each to their own. One thing I can say after a lifetime of Electrical experience is that a large screen television is not going to need a fraction of the power required to drive an electrical industrial conveyer oven. Therefore the local electricity board will certainly not have to be involved and the size of cable required could easily be installed by any competent electrical contractor in a very short time. I for one will be astonished if the screen installed sometime ago is not yet connected to a power supply and will not be in use for our first home game. I've been assured that it is connected, not to sure the flood light next to it is connected to the national grid........
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 31, 2019 18:59:42 GMT
Forumers, this is to all of you........I have been fishing all day and I finally caught Gasinsider, I needed a fishing boat net but I got him. * His original post on this thread asking the question re pitch side player of the season awards * He said he’s just joined the SC and isn’t Ken and Hamer’s messenger * Disclosed the score board cant be used as we don’t have enough power and the groundsman has the wrong kit. No one else has mentioned this * disclosed and please NOTE he never said said a “couple” or a “few” away grounds, he said VARIOUS away ground where he has spoken to Hamer and Ken. He’s said he doesn’t know them but also publicly said he’s met them in Bristol as well. * The words “various” onto top of meet ups in Bristol implies he’s spoken to them multiple times, he knows them 100%. I have photographic evidence on top of this. * this man is being told club information on purpose to undermine the club and Wael Al Qadi and they are using this man to do it. * He has just joined the SC so he can go to the AGM’s and I’m convinced again he’s been asked to. * He can easily ask his 2 friends re the end of season awards but he’s choose to ask us to try and ruin this club again 3 days before the start of the season. I have forwarded this to a Director of ours, it can’t go on and if I was an SC member I would be demanding Ken’s resignation, a man they can’t even make contact with. Shame on you, I’m with South Stand Ultra, I love this club and the day our experience, you are not ruining my club. At least SwissGas offers reasoning, financial results and points, he’s no messenger boy. Given his rants at the AGM Paul, I would suggest the directors need no introduction to this wrecking ball. Calls himself a fan, that's the bit that makes me laugh the most. Maybe a fan of Masters and Hamer, who knows why though.
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Post by pucklegas on Jul 31, 2019 19:25:10 GMT
Forumers, this is to all of you........I have been fishing all day and I finally caught Gasinsider, I needed a fishing boat net but I got him. * His original post on this thread asking the question re pitch side player of the season awards * He said he’s just joined the SC and isn’t Ken and Hamer’s messenger * Disclosed the score board cant be used as we don’t have enough power and the groundsman has the wrong kit. No one else has mentioned this * disclosed and please NOTE he never said said a “couple” or a “few” away grounds, he said VARIOUS away ground where he has spoken to Hamer and Ken. He’s said he doesn’t know them but also publicly said he’s met them in Bristol as well. * The words “various” onto top of meet ups in Bristol implies he’s spoken to them multiple times, he knows them 100%. I have photographic evidence on top of this. * this man is being told club information on purpose to undermine the club and Wael Al Qadi and they are using this man to do it. * He has just joined the SC so he can go to the AGM’s and I’m convinced again he’s been asked to. * He can easily ask his 2 friends re the end of season awards but he’s choose to ask us to try and ruin this club again 3 days before the start of the season. I have forwarded this to a Director of ours, it can’t go on and if I was an SC member I would be demanding Ken’s resignation, a man they can’t even make contact with. Shame on you, I’m with South Stand Ultra, I love this club and the day our experience, you are not ruining my club. At least SwissGas offers reasoning, financial results and points, he’s no messenger boy. Given his rants at the AGM Paul, I would suggest the directors need no introduction to this wrecking ball. Calls himself a fan, that's the bit that makes me laugh the most. Maybe a fan of Masters and Hamer, who knows why though. He s an attention seeker so must have a massive er3ction with all the comments and attention best to ignore him Imho.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2019 19:59:55 GMT
Forumers, this is to all of you........I have been fishing all day and I finally caught Gasinsider, I needed a fishing boat net but I got him. * His original post on this thread asking the question re pitch side player of the season awards * He said he’s just joined the SC and isn’t Ken and Hamer’s messenger * Disclosed the score board cant be used as we don’t have enough power and the groundsman has the wrong kit. No one else has mentioned this * disclosed and please NOTE he never said said a “couple” or a “few” away grounds, he said VARIOUS away ground where he has spoken to Hamer and Ken. He’s said he doesn’t know them but also publicly said he’s met them in Bristol as well. * The words “various” onto top of meet ups in Bristol implies he’s spoken to them multiple times, he knows them 100%. I have photographic evidence on top of this. * this man is being told club information on purpose to undermine the club and Wael Al Qadi and they are using this man to do it. * He has just joined the SC so he can go to the AGM’s and I’m convinced again he’s been asked to. * He can easily ask his 2 friends re the end of season awards but he’s choose to ask us to try and ruin this club again 3 days before the start of the season. I have forwarded this to a Director of ours, it can’t go on and if I was an SC member I would be demanding Ken’s resignation, a man they can’t even make contact with. Shame on you, I’m with South Stand Ultra, I love this club and the day our experience, you are not ruining my club. At least SwissGas offers reasoning, financial results and points, he’s no messenger boy. Roady have you actually ever met Gasincider in person? I think you're getting a bit carried away if you think Masters & Hamer are using him to bring down the BoD!! He goes to virtually every Rovers game, home & way, so Hamer will know him to speak to but it doesn't make them best buddies.
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