Marshy
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Post by Marshy on Jul 31, 2019 11:40:19 GMT
Astounding, I’ve just been on the official SC web page and under contacts, everyone has an email address contact, even the Away Travel Organiser but the figure head of the organisation has no contact details, I rest my case. Stop using this forum for your digs and snips and get onto your representative, how You contact him is your worry.......... bristolroverssc.co.uk/club-information/committee/Embarrassing, truly shocking to think I can tweet my local MP right now with a question. Funny thing is Paul, at the AGM, he sat at the top table with an apple laptop open and in front of him....it does beg the question whether that was for show or whether he actually knows how to use it as Im pretty sure you need an apple ID, which requires an email address just to load it up!! Perhaps thats why he said sweet FA, he was wondering what all the new technology was going on before his very eyes! Probably watching grinder.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 11:41:24 GMT
Astounding, I’ve just been on the official SC web page and under contacts, everyone has an email address contact, even the Away Travel Organiser but the figure head of the organisation has no contact details, I rest my case. Stop using this forum for your digs and snips and get onto your representative, how You contact him is your worry.......... bristolroverssc.co.uk/club-information/committee/Embarrassing, truly shocking to think I can tweet my local MP right now with a question. Summed up quite nicely Paul. A supporters club fans representative who can not be contacted at anytime apart from face to face on a match day if you can find him. As I have said before, the man's only it it for one thing, his self!
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 31, 2019 11:42:26 GMT
One trouble with this argument is that we can't agree on which direction to go. If everyone pulled in exactly the direction I want to go then I'd be happy enough, but what happens if someone else wants to pull in a different direction? The other problem is telling people to get out just coz they don't agree with you is divisive and inherently will make us smaller and weaker. And the flipside is what happens when people to tell you to get out for the very same reason? So, while you're obviously a very passionate Gashead, which is to be applauded, you should probably think twice before making such broad and divisive statements, istm. Every Gashead is bound to have different views on the best way to progress from the very top to the bottom of the club, and no one has a monopoly on the best way to do things; it all boils down to opinion. What I keep coming back to is this... Let's say for arguments sake that GI and Knowall are right and that Roady and 81 are totally in the wrong where does that leave us? We hear absolutely NOTHING from any official channels that there are problems at the club. The Presidents club say nothing. The Supporters Club say nothing. Silent Ken says nothing. What we get is hints, cryptic gripes, innuendo and constant sniping from individuals on social media. How is that a rallying cry to save anything? Meanwhile, 81 and Roady follow the party line and back the current owners. Something our manager has actually gone out of his way to request. So the owners say they are working hard, the manager says let's all work together and the affiliates say nothing so 81 and Roady appear to be the people taking the only sensible position. I have said this 100 times before, if the AQs are damaging our club beyond repair, the people who claim to know all about it are failing our club and its supporters by doing nothing about it. And if I'm wrong, ill admit im wrong too. If the SC and minority shareholders are correct, and if Hamer's whisperings need to be listen to then why arent they protesting and out with clipboards every match getting memberships and showing what really is wrong at the top. If it was as bad as they said it could be another Blackpool situation where all the fans rallied against the owners. But because there is nothing of the sort coming from them we can only then deduce its just a bunch of grumpy old men with their nose out of joint that they no longer can get their own way on matters.
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Post by chewbacca on Jul 31, 2019 11:49:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 12:02:54 GMT
Astounding, I’ve just been on the official SC web page and under contacts, everyone has an email address contact, even the Away Travel Organiser but the figure head of the organisation has no contact details, I rest my case. Stop using this forum for your digs and snips and get onto your representative, how You contact him is your worry.......... bristolroverssc.co.uk/club-information/committee/Embarrassing, truly shocking to think I can tweet my local MP right now with a question. Summed up quite nicely Paul. A supporters club fans representative who can not be contacted at anytime apart from face to face on a match day if you can find him. As I have said before, the man's only it it for one thing, his self! I’m sorry Dave to use language and words like Banned word and pathetic but this is what this organisation is, even the chairman, committee and members should be demanding their figurehead can be contacted publicly. I live 100 miles from the ground, if I couldn’t go for a month to a game, then how would I contact Ken? You are right, he’s in it for himself and lazy, he wants the role to suit him. As I see his role, the odd trip to see the Norton Radstock branch midweek where he is revered, the odd midweek meeting and lapping it up on a match day, oh and going to away games with Barry or Hamer. Someone will say, you don’t know all the good work he does? Well I can’t ask him a simple question or communicate with him to even open dialogue. The SC must stop using Gasincider, Knowall and Hamer for its battles, get Mr Fax and Page open to public communications
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Post by gasincider on Jul 31, 2019 12:27:36 GMT
GI, I don’t know you. But I witnessed your pathetic and obnoxious outbursts at the AGM to know who you are by sight only. Yes I sit up in the west stand with my family and friends but it’s of no favour or privilege. I pay my way for it. You asked why the club was declined your presentation, and not just me, but a few others told you the likely reason(s) why. Are we all apostles or can we just see through the agenda that the supporters club you belong to are trying to play. Technically the club don’t have to give you any specific reason other than, no, we don’t want to. Like it or lump it. Like I said, if it means that much to everyone, why not have an awards night with coronation chicken and a few glasses of babysham and invite the winners along. Or have something outside the portacabin on a match day. I’m sure your great leader is capable of organising something. No you didn't. But you will love it if and when you find out. Remember the name. I'm Spartacus. Even funnier, it wasn't even you I was talking about. Did I say they have to do anything? No. I asked for an explanation.
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Post by gasincider on Jul 31, 2019 12:33:09 GMT
For christ sake either all pull together or get out. One trouble with this argument is that we can't agree on which direction to go. If everyone pulled in exactly the direction I want to go then I'd be happy enough, but what happens if someone else wants to pull in a different direction? The other problem is telling people to get out just coz they don't agree with you is divisive and inherently will make us smaller and weaker. And the flipside is what happens when people to tell you to get out for the very same reason? So, while you're obviously a very passionate Gashead, which is to be applauded, you should probably think twice before making such broad and divisive statements, istm. Every Gashead is bound to have different views on the best way to progress from the very top to the bottom of the club, and no one has a monopoly on the best way to do things; it all boils down to opinion. You are right of course Antonio. But go back a few pages and you will see I believe it was 1981 telling me and my mates to go. Who are these mates he also doesn't approve of? As you say it's all about opinions. But all I asked was why something didn't happen. Hardly controversial until it was made so by Roady and 1981.
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Post by gasincider on Jul 31, 2019 12:38:20 GMT
Simple question ? If the club said yes but you have to pay £500 for the privilege, would the supporters club pay it TBH i think the whole thing is a storm in a very small tea cup and most people don't give a flying F##k about the ins and outs of player awards etc Don't know, but if they did it would reduce the backing they give the young players in the academy by the same amount. So what would be the point? You miss the point Henbury. It's for the youngsters more than anyone.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 31, 2019 12:42:50 GMT
Simple question ? If the club said yes but you have to pay £500 for the privilege, would the supporters club pay it TBH i think the whole thing is a storm in a very small tea cup and most people don't give a flying F##k about the ins and outs of player awards etc Don't know, but if they did it would reduce the backing they give the young players in the academy by the same amount. So what would be the point? You miss the point Henbury. It's for the youngsters more than anyone. i'm sure the youngsters will get just as much enjoyment out of the award if it was presented either on the pitch or at a training session
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Post by gasincider on Jul 31, 2019 12:45:26 GMT
What I keep coming back to is this... Let's say for arguments sake that GI and Knowall are right and that Roady and 81 are totally in the wrong where does that leave us And all I keep coming back to is I only asked why the presentation couldn't be made. Then allegations are made about me which are bulls..t.
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Post by gasincider on Jul 31, 2019 12:50:26 GMT
Astounding, I’ve just been on the official SC web page and under contacts, everyone has an email address contact, even the Away Travel Organiser but the figure head of the organisation has no contact details, I rest my case. Stop using this forum for your digs and snips and get onto your representative, how You contact him is your worry.......... bristolroverssc.co.uk/club-information/committee/Embarrassing, truly shocking to think I can tweet my local MP right now with a question. So asking why a presentation was not allowed is digging or sniping. Fair enough but I think fair minded people will understand that it was a simple question that could have been left there if two people hadn't decided to make it more than it was. As as I say, I've only just joined so I didn't know the structure. But an answer from the club would still be 'a nice to have'
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jul 31, 2019 12:55:56 GMT
This is why I'm glad I'm not in to all the political BS at BRFC.
I go to the match on a Saturday, sit there and moan for 90 mins, go home and can't wait till the next match comes around.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 12:57:46 GMT
Astounding, I’ve just been on the official SC web page and under contacts, everyone has an email address contact, even the Away Travel Organiser but the figure head of the organisation has no contact details, I rest my case. Stop using this forum for your digs and snips and get onto your representative, how You contact him is your worry.......... bristolroverssc.co.uk/club-information/committee/Embarrassing, truly shocking to think I can tweet my local MP right now with a question. So asking why a presentation was not allowed is digging or sniping. Fair enough but I think fair minded people will understand that it was a simple question that could have been left there if two people hadn't decided to make it more than it was. As as I say, I've only just joined so I didn't know the structure. But an answer from the club would still be 'a nice to have' I am leaving it here Gasincider and I am genuine when I say I am sorry if I caused offence calling you a Banned word. You ask what you want, I feel sorry for you (not putting you down) that you still have no answers after 8 pages why the club did this and as a new member of the SC you can’t even contact your representative. I give you grace coming on here, no one else is listening to you or fighting your corner. Even if you do get hold of Ken yourself the other members won’t know his feedback where as a simple tweet of Facebook post from him could tell the whole membership. You carry on using this forum to ask questions, I will carry on reminding you that you can go down the proper channel and ask Mr Fax and Pager these questions. Enjoy the season coming up, safe travels to Blackpool if you are going, I am, happy to say hello.
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Post by swissgas on Jul 31, 2019 12:58:16 GMT
The old guard SC Brotherhood seem to yearn for the glory days of the “nod and a wink” and “I know more than you” culture as they all pull together in one direction.
But the WearefaithfulandtruetoWael brigade, who pretend they cannot see the shabbiness and gross financial incompetence, are all pulling together in exactly the same direction.
Unfortunately for Bristol Rovers that direction is downwards.
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Post by gasincider on Jul 31, 2019 13:00:42 GMT
I’m sorry Dave to use language and words like Banned word and pathetic but this is what this organisation is, even the chairman, committee and members should be demanding their figurehead can be contacted publicly. I live 100 miles from the ground, if I couldn’t go for a month to a game, then how would I contact Ken? You are right, he’s in it for himself and lazy, he wants the role to suit him. As I see his role, the odd trip to see the Norton Radstock branch midweek where he is revered, the odd midweek meeting and lapping it up on a match day, oh and going to away games with Barry or Hamer. Someone will say, you don’t know all the good work he does? Well I can’t ask him a simple question or communicate with him to even open dialogue. The SC must stop using Gasincider, Knowall and Hamer for its battles, get Mr Fax and Page open to public communications Nobody uses me. But you really must get a better source than the mate who is so obviously close to god and spouts his crap.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jul 31, 2019 13:07:06 GMT
The old guard SC Brotherhood seem to yearn for the glory days of the “nod and a wink” and “I know more than you” culture as they all pull together in one direction. But the WearefaithfulandtruetoWael brigade, who pretend they cannot see the shabbiness and gross financial incompetence, are all pulling together in exactly the same direction. Unfortunately for Bristol Rovers that direction is downwards.
What about the other 7,900 who have no interest and just go to watch some footy?
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Post by gasincider on Jul 31, 2019 13:19:52 GMT
The old guard SC Brotherhood seem to yearn for the glory days of the “nod and a wink” and “I know more than you” culture as they all pull together in one direction. But the WearefaithfulandtruetoWael brigade, who pretend they cannot see the shabbiness and gross financial incompetence, are all pulling together in exactly the same direction. Unfortunately for Bristol Rovers that direction is downwards. I agree with this and this is the nub of the whole problem with our club and it's downward spiral. And yet it all started over what I still say was a non controversial question. But the point you raise Swissgas is the be all and end all of the whole thing. Some of these people cannot see what is staring them in the face. This club is showing no financial competence whatsoever. It's all around us. The latest being the new scoreboard being bought from a shithead. At the time of writing, we cannot get sufficient power to it to operate it. So why buy it? There are any number of items bought to help the groundsman in his work. We lay out money to find it is no good for our needs etc etc. We bought a training ground and proceeded to grow grass on it. DC felt shafted by the end, though he didn't help himself, and I've no doubt that GC saying he looks forward to seeing what the youth can do has probably got his fingers crossed. He worked a bloody miracle last season keeping us up, and as others have said I just hope he can do the same again this time. I'll certainly be supporting them home and away. As for those slagging off new players they haven't even seen play, they should be ashamed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 13:20:38 GMT
I’m sorry Dave to use language and words like Banned word and pathetic but this is what this organisation is, even the chairman, committee and members should be demanding their figurehead can be contacted publicly. I live 100 miles from the ground, if I couldn’t go for a month to a game, then how would I contact Ken? You are right, he’s in it for himself and lazy, he wants the role to suit him. As I see his role, the odd trip to see the Norton Radstock branch midweek where he is revered, the odd midweek meeting and lapping it up on a match day, oh and going to away games with Barry or Hamer. Someone will say, you don’t know all the good work he does? Well I can’t ask him a simple question or communicate with him to even open dialogue. The SC must stop using Gasincider, Knowall and Hamer for its battles, get Mr Fax and Page open to public communications Nobody uses me. But you really must get a better source than the mate who is so obviously close to god and spouts his crap. So have you had any luck with Ken as a new member and what are your feelings on a new member and current membership not being able to contact him publicly? You assume I have a source as well, totally wrong here.
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Post by swissgas on Jul 31, 2019 13:21:22 GMT
The old guard SC Brotherhood seem to yearn for the glory days of the “nod and a wink” and “I know more than you” culture as they all pull together in one direction. But the WearefaithfulandtruetoWael brigade, who pretend they cannot see the shabbiness and gross financial incompetence, are all pulling together in exactly the same direction. Unfortunately for Bristol Rovers that direction is downwards.
What about the other 7,900 who have no interest and just go to watch some footy?
Don't you mean the other 39 900 who went Wembley ? Seriously though, in my lifetime I’ve seen Rovers status drop alarmingly and it hurts. When I started we were a “Championship” club with “Championship” standard facilities but since then the whole culture has changed so now we meekly accept the mediocrity we get. If all Gasheads want is a chance to watch football on a Saturday then maybe non-league is the place we deserve to be ?
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Post by peterparker on Jul 31, 2019 13:27:23 GMT
The old guard SC Brotherhood seem to yearn for the glory days of the “nod and a wink” and “I know more than you” culture as they all pull together in one direction. But the WearefaithfulandtruetoWael brigade, who pretend they cannot see the shabbiness and gross financial incompetence, are all pulling together in exactly the same direction. Unfortunately for Bristol Rovers that direction is downwards. I agree with this and this is the nub of the whole problem with our club and it's downward spiral. And yet it all started over what I still say was a non controversial question. But the point you raise Swissgas is the be all and end all of the whole thing. Some of these people cannot see what is staring them in the face. This club is showing no financial competence whatsoever. It's all around us. The latest being the new scoreboard being bought from a shithead. At the time of writing, we cannot get sufficient power to it to operate it. So why buy it? There are any number of items bought to help the groundsman in his work. We lay out money to find it is no good for our needs etc etc. We bought a training ground and proceeded to grow grass on it. DC felt shafted by the end, though he didn't help himself, and I've no doubt that GC saying he looks forward to seeing what the youth can do has probably got his fingers crossed. He worked a bloody miracle last season keeping us up, and as others have said I just hope he can do the same again this time. I'll certainly be supporting them home and away. As for those slagging off new players they haven't even seen play, they should be ashamed. How the f**k would I or 99.9% of the fans know the club has bought equipment for the groundsman that is not suitable? Again as I and others have said if things are so bad, what is the SC and the fans rep saying or doing about it and communicating it to those they claim to represent
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