Marshy
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Post by Marshy on Oct 4, 2019 16:51:19 GMT
Yes, what he said! I have never once said it was Wael.. and to clarify, it most certainly is not! Obviously do not want to say too much as do not want to get my friend in trouble, but I will say that he is a part time employee of the club and has been for man many years. He has direct access to the dressing room via his role within the club. As he is part time he also has a secondary job and that is how I know him, we work together (sort of) in his second job's capacity. I have been told many things over the years as you might expect, some I have shared on here and some I have not (some have been incredibly personal to those involved and had no place in a public domain) but what they all have in common is that sooner or later they come to fruition. If at any point that stopped being the case and I started to get the sent of BS, I would simply stop listening and certainly stop passing on. As I said from the outset, please do take or leave this information. I too have no time for the 'I know something, but I can't say what it is or how I know' mob who frequent this thread and that is the main reason I actually do say when I have what I believe to be genuine news. I do not do so to show off, I do so as I firmly believe that the fan-base of any club have the right to know what is going on at the heart of it. Simple as that really. Good post BUT too much info sometimes costs money f**k me this is like prime ministers question time!
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Post by pucklegas on Oct 4, 2019 16:53:20 GMT
Good post BUT too much info sometimes costs money f**k me this is like prime ministers question time! Order order order 😂
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Post by gregsy on Oct 4, 2019 16:56:37 GMT
Good post BUT too much info sometimes costs money f**k me this is like prime ministers question time! I do get the feeling that when some official info is released were gonna have another 200 pages of abstract dialect about who was right and who was wrong.....
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Post by Squiffy on Oct 4, 2019 17:11:39 GMT
That is a great comment. Well done, did you mean it? Really made me smile! UTG! Thanks Wareham - It was a somewhat feeble attempt at dry humour!! UTG Are you really Ricky Gervais? (Golden Globes 2011 closing speech). 😂
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Post by aghast on Oct 4, 2019 17:43:44 GMT
Yes, what he said! I have never once said it was Wael.. and to clarify, it most certainly is not! Obviously do not want to say too much as do not want to get my friend in trouble, but I will say that he is a part time employee of the club and has been for man many years. He has direct access to the dressing room via his role within the club. As he is part time he also has a secondary job and that is how I know him, we work together (sort of) in his second job's capacity. I have been told many things over the years as you might expect, some I have shared on here and some I have not (some have been incredibly personal to those involved and had no place in a public domain) but what they all have in common is that sooner or later they come to fruition. If at any point that stopped being the case and I started to get the sent of BS, I would simply stop listening and certainly stop passing on. As I said from the outset, please do take or leave this information. I too have no time for the 'I know something, but I can't say what it is or how I know' mob who frequent this thread and that is the main reason I actually do say when I have what I believe to be genuine news. I do not do so to show off, I do so as I firmly believe that the fan-base of any club have the right to know what is going on at the heart of it. Simple as that really. Good post BUT too much info sometimes costs money Very enigmatic. So we've been told that a consortium wants to buy some land for a stadium before they buy a football club. If they don't get the land, they don't buy us. If they get the land and then buy us, they might build a stadium. If they get the land and can't or don't buy us, they plonk a hotel on the land. Not exactly 007 stuff, is it? I don't really feel I know any more than I thought might or might not be happening anyway. But at least someone has come out and said what they mean instead of writing nonsense clouded in mystery like Nostradamus.
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Post by piratesquarters on Oct 4, 2019 18:13:41 GMT
f**k me this is like prime ministers question time! Order order order 😂 That's decent of you, I'll have a pint of best.
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Post by Westy on Oct 4, 2019 19:06:37 GMT
Good post BUT too much info sometimes costs money Very enigmatic. So we've been told that a consortium wants to buy some land for a stadium before they buy a football club. If they don't get the land, they don't buy us. If they get the land and then buy us, they might build a stadium. If they get the land and can't or don't buy us, they plonk a hotel on the land. Not exactly 007 stuff, is it? I don't really feel I know any more than I thought might or might not be happening anyway. But at least someone has come out and said what they mean instead of writing nonsense clouded in mystery like Nostradamus. It does all seem a bit roundabout... If they had 100% intention of buying the land and the club, then why not but the club, then sort the fruit market? If they just want the land at the FM, then why not just do that? I can't get onboard of this "if you sort the planning permission, we'll buy the club". I'd imagine this is some kind of money saving, like buying a house on the provision the current owners have PP for an extension, but that's hardly a decent comparison for a million reasons!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 4, 2019 19:10:17 GMT
Good post BUT too much info sometimes costs money Very enigmatic. So we've been told that a consortium wants to buy some land for a stadium before they buy a football club. If they don't get the land, they don't buy us. If they get the land and then buy us, they might build a stadium. If they get the land and can't or don't buy us, they plonk a hotel on the land. Not exactly 007 stuff, is it? I don't really feel I know any more than I thought might or might not be happening anyway. But at least someone has come out and said what they mean instead of writing nonsense clouded in mystery like Nostradamus. I can't see the developers having any interest in building a football stadium unless they've been told by somebody if they want want an easy ride with the planners then their plans need to include the stadium, I doubt it comes down to them just building a hotel if the ALQ's refuse to sell?
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Post by c4h10 on Oct 4, 2019 21:26:03 GMT
If the weather is bad I can see how deep sea fishing could quickly become deep sea diving! A friend of mine once chartered a boat to go fishing in the Bristol channel.... Found the spot they wanted to fish and threw the anchor over the side.... Problem was that the rope was too short and the boat went down with the anchor, they had to be saved by the good folk of the RNLI.... true story that.... I was never any good at maths or physics, but, if the anchor sank the boat whilst hanging on a rope, why didn't it sink the boat when it was in the boat? Discuss. No, don't - it's not football related and you'll get into trouble.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 4, 2019 21:58:55 GMT
Does anyone over the age of 12 know what means? Hey Baggs, you sayin' I'm down wiv the kids?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 22:00:14 GMT
Why does everything and everyone get misquoted here? I have just read back the last 4 pages and nowhere does BIWISIT hint it was Wael or even a club employee that his info came from. I have been told many things over the years as you might expect, some I have shared on here and some I have not (some have been incredibly personal to those involved and had no place in a public domain) but what they all have in common is that sooner or later they come to fruition. If at any point that stopped being the case and I started to get the sent of BS, I would simply stop listening and certainly stop passing on. Mods please permaban
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 22:33:25 GMT
The people buying can get investment for a stadium but they can’t get investment to cover the current losses with no future plan in place. It’s all got to make sense in order to buy and I get that! It doesn’t make me worry one bit as to me it shows they are decent business men who want to buy on the right terms. You want to buy something with the potential for growth not just throw money away! The later will not help BRFC one bit! Check bury out!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 5, 2019 6:00:12 GMT
A friend of mine once chartered a boat to go fishing in the Bristol channel.... Found the spot they wanted to fish and threw the anchor over the side.... Problem was that the rope was too short and the boat went down with the anchor, they had to be saved by the good folk of the RNLI.... true story that.... I was never any good at maths or physics, but, if the anchor sank the boat whilst hanging on a rope, why didn't it sink the boat when it was in the boat? Discuss. No, don't - it's not football related and you'll get into trouble. I think it has to do with weight distribution. When inside the boat the anchors weight is spread over the total amount of the boats water dispersion. When overboard, and attached to a rope the weight of the anchor would be acting on a single point and could therefore effect the equilibrium of the boat causing it list. If it lists below the waterline then it may take on enough water to the point where it is no longer buoyant.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 5, 2019 6:41:21 GMT
I was never any good at maths or physics, but, if the anchor sank the boat whilst hanging on a rope, why didn't it sink the boat when it was in the boat? Discuss. No, don't - it's not football related and you'll get into trouble. I think it has to do with weight distribution. When inside the boat the anchors weight is spread over the total amount of the boats water dispersion. When overboard, and attached to a rope the weight of the anchor would be acting on a single point and could therefore effect the equilibrium of the boat causing it list. If it lists below the waterline then it may take on enough water to the point where it is no longer buoyant. Thank you Professor Pike
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 7:59:20 GMT
I think it has to do with weight distribution. When inside the boat the anchors weight is spread over the total amount of the boats water dispersion. When overboard, and attached to a rope the weight of the anchor would be acting on a single point and could therefore effect the equilibrium of the boat causing it list. If it lists below the waterline then it may take on enough water to the point where it is no longer buoyant. Thank you Professor Pike Archimedes should be getting all the credit in this case.
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Post by toddy1953 on Oct 5, 2019 8:59:11 GMT
Archimedes should be getting all the credit in this case. Archie Stephens, now he was a good player.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 5, 2019 12:39:58 GMT
The people buying can get investment for a stadium but they can’t get investment to cover the current losses with no future plan in place. It’s all got to make sense in order to buy and I get that! It doesn’t make me worry one bit as to me it shows they are decent business men who want to buy on the right terms. You want to buy something with the potential for growth not just throw money away! The later will not help BRFC one bit! Check bury out! Surely before even thinking about buying a football club/building a stadium potential owners need to do the maths? I can't see there's anyway buying any football club outside a top 6 Premiership side can guarantee that an investor won't make anything but big losses, unless you strike it lucky and get to the Premiership and survive a couple of seasons, City show how hard it is even put a decent promotion push together let alone get promoted. If we're waiting for somebody to come up with a business plan to cover a £50m+ investment then I doubt many of us will ever see Rovers play in a decent stadium.
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Post by aghast on Oct 5, 2019 15:59:17 GMT
The people buying can get investment for a stadium but they can’t get investment to cover the current losses with no future plan in place. It’s all got to make sense in order to buy and I get that! It doesn’t make me worry one bit as to me it shows they are decent business men who want to buy on the right terms. You want to buy something with the potential for growth not just throw money away! The later will not help BRFC one bit! Check bury out! Surely before even thinking about buying a football club/building a stadium potential owners need to do the maths? I can't see there's anyway buying any football club outside a top 6 Premiership side can guarantee that an investor won't make anything but big losses, unless you strike it lucky and get to the Premiership and survive a couple of seasons, City show how hard it is even put a decent promotion push together let alone get promoted. If we're waiting for somebody to come up with a business plan to cover a £50m+ investment then I doubt many of us will ever see Rovers play in a decent stadium. It is a mystery. On a site like the fruit market, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the stadium would be the least profitable part of any development. The mysterious new money men might be better off building a new shopping centre. Unless of course there is a strategic plan for the site, and BCC want a stadium built as part of their approval of other developments there. I don't really believe that, though. Why would BCC be so interested in helping us, and why do they want a new stadium so close to Temple Meads and the city centre? I'm thinking this stadium might be intended for lots more than just football. Music, festivals, other sports. The outdoor arena. Which then makes me think that the football club will not own this stadium or any of the non-football revenue streams. Maybe a Ricoh model, which could work if the stadium owners don't get greedy in their rent demands.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 5, 2019 16:42:54 GMT
Surely before even thinking about buying a football club/building a stadium potential owners need to do the maths? I can't see there's anyway buying any football club outside a top 6 Premiership side can guarantee that an investor won't make anything but big losses, unless you strike it lucky and get to the Premiership and survive a couple of seasons, City show how hard it is even put a decent promotion push together let alone get promoted. If we're waiting for somebody to come up with a business plan to cover a £50m+ investment then I doubt many of us will ever see Rovers play in a decent stadium. It is a mystery. On a site like the fruit market, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the stadium would be the least profitable part of any development. The mysterious new money men might be better off building a new shopping centre. Unless of course there is a strategic plan for the site, and BCC want a stadium built as part of their approval of other developments there. I don't really believe that, though. Why would BCC be so interested in helping us, and why do they want a new stadium so close to Temple Meads and the city centre? I'm thinking this stadium might be intended for lots more than just football. Music, festivals, other sports. The outdoor arena. Which then makes me think that the football club will not own this stadium or any of the non-football revenue streams. Maybe a Ricoh model, which could work if the stadium owners don't get greedy in their rent demands. But an outdoor Arena wouldn't go down well with the developers of the indoor Arena at Filton and also probably not with the residents of the flats etc being built around the ground? I can't see what other sports can be played there given the rugby isn't going to be leaving AG anytime soon. Perhaps having failed to deliver the Arena in central Bristol the Mayor feels a new stadium for us would make up for it with the voters, or perhaps the developers think it will make get pp easier if they include the stadium, although there seems plenty of other developments nearby getting pp. Why include a stadium for us if they are not really football fans, it doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 17:54:56 GMT
It is a mystery. On a site like the fruit market, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the stadium would be the least profitable part of any development. The mysterious new money men might be better off building a new shopping centre. Unless of course there is a strategic plan for the site, and BCC want a stadium built as part of their approval of other developments there. I don't really believe that, though. Why would BCC be so interested in helping us, and why do they want a new stadium so close to Temple Meads and the city centre? I'm thinking this stadium might be intended for lots more than just football. Music, festivals, other sports. The outdoor arena. Which then makes me think that the football club will not own this stadium or any of the non-football revenue streams. Maybe a Ricoh model, which could work if the stadium owners don't get greedy in their rent demands. But an outdoor Arena wouldn't go down well with the developers of the indoor Arena at Filton and also probably not with the residents of the flats etc being built around the ground? I can't see what other sports can be played there given the rugby isn't going to be leaving AG anytime soon. Perhaps having failed to deliver the Arena in central Bristol the Mayor feels a new stadium for us would make up for it with the voters, or perhaps the developers think it will make get pp easier if they include the stadium, although there seems plenty of other developments nearby getting pp. Why include a stadium for us if they are not really football fans, it doesn't make any sense. What flats around what ground?! You seen the plans? Ffs this place is unreal.
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