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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 16, 2020 13:27:23 GMT
Could have been us if it wasn't for the shyster Wael. Thanks for nothing Waely. Yes if he bent over and gave Uwe all they wanted. Then I'm sure people like you would have moaned down the line, about the bad deal. The bad atmosphere etc. We need new facilities we all know that. But personally I didn't want a jogging track for students, the atmosphere at new ground can be bad enough as it is. Didn't want lecture halls in it for Uwe, student bar, to give them naming rights, parking on non match day. That's just the stuff we know about, that was said at the time. If you were happy to have a football stadium, which was aimed more at the university than a football club so be it. Why do you think Wael said that the design would have to be changed and we would have had to reapply for planning anyway. Better to wait, than sign a bad deal like Coventry. There is a lot we can moan about refusing m regarding the owner's. Uwe is not one of them though. Training ground etc I'm more annoyed about. But then I case see why they would wait, until a stadium was sorted etc. Like the rest of us unless somebody ever shares details of the proposed deal we've no idea what the UWE were proposing, it's just Wael's fan boys like you insisting it was a bad deal. None of us really have a clue what was being proposed before the second set of talks failed. How do you know the FM deal is any better for the club than what the UWE were proposing??
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Post by baggins on Jan 16, 2020 13:31:14 GMT
Yes if he bent over and gave Uwe all they wanted. Then I'm sure people like you would have moaned down the line, about the bad deal. The bad atmosphere etc. We need new facilities we all know that. But personally I didn't want a jogging track for students, the atmosphere at new ground can be bad enough as it is. Didn't want lecture halls in it for Uwe, student bar, to give them naming rights, parking on non match day. That's just the stuff we know about, that was said at the time. If you were happy to have a football stadium, which was aimed more at the university than a football club so be it. Why do you think Wael said that the design would have to be changed and we would have had to reapply for planning anyway. Better to wait, than sign a bad deal like Coventry. There is a lot we can moan about refusing m regarding the owner's. Uwe is not one of them though. Training ground etc I'm more annoyed about. But then I case see why they would wait, until a stadium was sorted etc. Like the rest of us unless somebody ever shares details of the proposed deal we've no idea what the UWE were proposing, it's just Wael's fan boys like you insisting it was a bad deal. None of us really have a clue what was being proposed before the second set of talks failed. How do you know the FM deal is any better for the club than what the UWE were proposing?? How about stopping it with the "Wael fan boys" crap eh?
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Post by RD on Jan 16, 2020 13:33:34 GMT
Yes if he bent over and gave Uwe all they wanted. Then I'm sure people like you would have moaned down the line, about the bad deal. The bad atmosphere etc. We need new facilities we all know that. But personally I didn't want a jogging track for students, the atmosphere at new ground can be bad enough as it is. Didn't want lecture halls in it for Uwe, student bar, to give them naming rights, parking on non match day. That's just the stuff we know about, that was said at the time. If you were happy to have a football stadium, which was aimed more at the university than a football club so be it. Why do you think Wael said that the design would have to be changed and we would have had to reapply for planning anyway. Better to wait, than sign a bad deal like Coventry. There is a lot we can moan about refusing m regarding the owner's. Uwe is not one of them though. Training ground etc I'm more annoyed about. But then I case see why they would wait, until a stadium was sorted etc. How do you know the FM deal is any better for the club than what the UWE were proposing?? How do you know it's not?
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Post by toddy1953 on Jan 16, 2020 13:38:09 GMT
Evolution not revolution guys, these things take time. Well in a few weeks it will be 6 months since the Wael last spoke. If I recall he said something like the FM is the preferred stadium site, some planning liaison was underway, be there in 2 years? A couple of other sites also identified within Bristol not S Glos, oh and temporary training facilities identified nearby, but he couldn’t say anymore than that. In Martin Starnes interview in Dec, when GC left, he said that, to his knowledge the AlQadis, were not looking to sell the club & also regards the training ground & FM site, he said there was no news, although he hadn’t been involved in either until now (assume he meant that was Hamers remit) I think that tells us what to expect from Wael when he next raises his head above the parapet. To top it all, Football on offer, is akin to that in the dark days of L2, albeit there is a nice screen showing moments of past glories, although I can watch enough of that on you tube. It seems there are 101 reasons why the owners can’t do things, fans stating we will end up like Coventry etc etc. So what’s best for the club then? “Here lies Bristol Rovers, died on its feet, due to not taking any opportunities, in case it wasn’t best for the club”
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Post by baggins on Jan 16, 2020 13:42:45 GMT
How do you know the FM deal is any better for the club than what the UWE were proposing?? How do you know it's not? General guessing?
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Post by pirate on Jan 16, 2020 13:44:34 GMT
Like the rest of us unless somebody ever shares details of the proposed deal we've no idea what the UWE were proposing, it's just Wael's fan boys like you insisting it was a bad deal. None of us really have a clue what was being proposed before the second set of talks failed. How do you know the FM deal is any better for the club than what the UWE were proposing?? How about stopping it with the "Wael fan boys" crap eh? ...says the third Wael fan boy.
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Post by RD on Jan 16, 2020 13:46:38 GMT
How do you know it's not? General guessing? Or, as we here at Gashchat like to call it, Facts.
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Post by baggins on Jan 16, 2020 13:48:31 GMT
How about stopping it with the "Wael fan boys" crap eh? ...says the third Wael fan boy. I'm hurt. Really hurt.
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Post by pirate on Jan 16, 2020 13:51:10 GMT
...says the third Wael fan boy. I'm hurt. Really hurt. Maybe Waely will give you a big hug if you suck up and boot lick enough.
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Post by baggins on Jan 16, 2020 13:52:16 GMT
Maybe Waely will give you a big hug if you suck up and boot lick enough. Oh my God, that's so funny. Really funny. Well done.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 16, 2020 14:01:01 GMT
Yes if he bent over and gave Uwe all they wanted. Then I'm sure people like you would have moaned down the line, about the bad deal. The bad atmosphere etc. We need new facilities we all know that. But personally I didn't want a jogging track for students, the atmosphere at new ground can be bad enough as it is. Didn't want lecture halls in it for Uwe, student bar, to give them naming rights, parking on non match day. That's just the stuff we know about, that was said at the time. If you were happy to have a football stadium, which was aimed more at the university than a football club so be it. Why do you think Wael said that the design would have to be changed and we would have had to reapply for planning anyway. Better to wait, than sign a bad deal like Coventry. There is a lot we can moan about refusing m regarding the owner's. Uwe is not one of them though. Training ground etc I'm more annoyed about. But then I case see why they would wait, until a stadium was sorted etc. Like the rest of us unless somebody ever shares details of the proposed deal we've no idea what the UWE were proposing, it's just Wael's fan boys like you insisting it was a bad deal. None of us really have a clue what was being proposed before the second set of talks failed. How do you know the FM deal is any better for the club than what the UWE were proposing?? We do know what was in the plans, as they were there to see. That's all I commented on. What I knew myself. Not guesswork, like a lot of others. We don't know if the fruit market stadium will be better.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 16, 2020 14:17:22 GMT
funniest post today well done I think you are missing the point, i just saying i don't think Bristol Sport are going to be doing us any favors. i found it funny because i don't think the current owners of bristol Rovers football club are doing us any favors at the moment.....
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 16, 2020 14:19:11 GMT
Maybe Waely will give you a big hug if you suck up and boot lick enough. Wes stop acting like most of the knobheads on here, you're above that
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 16, 2020 14:29:39 GMT
I think you are missing the point, i just saying i don't think Bristol Sport are going to be doing us any favors. i found it funny because i don't think the current owners of bristol Rovers football club are doing us any favors at the moment..... I have my doubts anyone has Bristol Rovers interests at heart any more.
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Post by baggins on Jan 16, 2020 14:31:54 GMT
Maybe Waely will give you a big hug if you suck up and boot lick enough. I've come up with the perfect solution for you. Stop supporting the Rovers. Hang up your scarf, throw away your Season Ticket, if you have one, and do something else. After all, watching a Team who's salaries, signing on fees, insurance, paid for by the owner you hate so much is surely the height of hypocrisy? That way, you needn't post on here anymore, unless you want to you join in with the "what's for dinner thread"? Job done. Thank me later.
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Post by axegas on Jan 16, 2020 17:06:41 GMT
Didn't the post on their live Q+A say they were optimistic that a deal could be reached with the Fruit Market and the prospective buyers over the Christmas period? I guess that timeframe is out the window then. Talks must reaching their crescendo soon you would of thought, regardless of whether the outcome is positive or negative to the football club.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 16, 2020 17:13:44 GMT
Not a good deal for Waely, but doesnt mean it wasn't a good deal for the football club. So you wanted all that included?? It would have good for the club how?? If it's good for the football club, it's good for Wael! He could have sold us easier, if it was good for the club. Makes no sense. You really do struggle with this thing about something being good for owners of a football club and something being good for the long term health of the football club as totally different things don’t you? You’re not on your own either judging by the poll put up today about Wanqi Wael’s ownership. Here is a well known and documented example for you to chew on. Brighton had an owner by the name of Bill Archer who bought the club for a lot less than their ground less the debts were worth. He considered it an “unbelievably good deal” and sometime later after spinning yarns to the fans for a bit went on to sell the ground to a property developer. The football club were homeless and went to play in Gillingham. He pocketed an excellent profit for himself so all of his actions produced a fantastic deal for him but an atrocious deal for the football club he owned who almost went out of existence. He wouldn’t have worried if they had of course, once he’d got his money out. Hope this helps.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 16, 2020 17:20:57 GMT
Like the rest of us unless somebody ever shares details of the proposed deal we've no idea what the UWE were proposing, it's just Wael's fan boys like you insisting it was a bad deal. None of us really have a clue what was being proposed before the second set of talks failed. How do you know the FM deal is any better for the club than what the UWE were proposing?? We do know what was in the plans, as they were there to see. That's all I commented on. What I knew myself. Not guesswork, like a lot of others. We don't know if the fruit market stadium will be better. You commented that with the UWE deal we’d have given away income streams that would have made it unviable. Absolute conjecture on your part unless you want to provide the proof. If you can’t provide such proof the notion that it didn’t proceed because the ALQs had neither the wherewithal or desire to make it happen is the default.
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Post by gasincider on Jan 16, 2020 17:43:24 GMT
Evolution not revolution guys, these things take time. Well in a few weeks it will be 6 months since the Wael last spoke. If I recall he said something like the FM is the preferred stadium site, some planning liaison was underway, be there in 2 years? A couple of other sites also identified within Bristol not S Glos, oh and temporary training facilities identified nearby, but he couldn’t say anymore than that. In Martin Starnes interview in Dec, when GC left, he said that, to his knowledge the AlQadis, were not looking to sell the club & also regards the training ground & FM site, he said there was no news, although he hadn’t been involved in either until now (assume he meant that was Hamers remit) I think that tells us what to expect from Wael when he next raises his head above the parapet. To top it all, Football on offer, is akin to that in the dark days of L2, albeit there is a nice screen showing moments of past glories, although I can watch enough of that on you tube. It seems there are 101 reasons why the owners can’t do things, fans stating we will end up like Coventry etc etc. So what’s best for the club then? “Here lies Bristol Rovers, died on its feet, due to not taking any opportunities, in case it wasn’t best for the club” Best post I've seen on here for quite a time. How anyone truly believes that our club will progress under the current regime staggers me. I seem to recall the fantasy prediction that we would get millions for JCH , Kilgore etc and our money troubles would disappear. It seems more realistic to say we are up sh*t creek without a paddle, we have no one left on the board reassuring us that all is well. In fact the silence truly is deafening. Why was SH dismissed? Why has Ken been banned from the west stand boxes? Why is there no statement from the owners allaying our worries? The only one who offers an opinion, stated as fact, is Waels spokesman on here. And to think that Waels spokesman has the balls to slag off how the supporters club is run. You couldnt make it up.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 16, 2020 17:57:32 GMT
Yes if he bent over and gave Uwe all they wanted. Then I'm sure people like you would have moaned down the line, about the bad deal. The bad atmosphere etc. We need new facilities we all know that. But personally I didn't want a jogging track for students, the atmosphere at new ground can be bad enough as it is. Didn't want lecture halls in it for Uwe, student bar, to give them naming rights, parking on non match day. That's just the stuff we know about, that was said at the time. If you were happy to have a football stadium, which was aimed more at the university than a football club so be it. Why do you think Wael said that the design would have to be changed and we would have had to reapply for planning anyway. Better to wait, than sign a bad deal like Coventry. There is a lot we can moan about refusing m regarding the owner's. Uwe is not one of them though. Training ground etc I'm more annoyed about. But then I case see why they would wait, until a stadium was sorted etc. Like the rest of us unless somebody ever shares details of the proposed deal we've no idea what the UWE were proposing, it's just Wael's fan boys like you insisting it was a bad deal. None of us really have a clue what was being proposed before the second set of talks failed. How do you know the FM deal is any better for the club than what the UWE were proposing?? Fan boy lol. I voted undecided on the board. I don't know either way. I don't make out I do, like loads though. I just add to the debate, giving both sides. I think we could have better owners, but we could do a lot worse. While they continue to fund us, there is not a problem. It's then y it's costing more money.
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