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Post by paddingtongas on Feb 24, 2020 9:39:25 GMT
A new ground/redeveloped Mem, will be owned by Dwane Sports (or whoever they sale the club to), not Bristol Rovers.
A redeveloped Mem, 20K capacity with no room to expand, (to me) says the Championship will be our target, but realistically we'll be a League 1 club. Look at Brentford, moving to a brand stadium with a capacity of 17250 approx, & no expansion possible, obviously happy to stay in the championship...
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 24, 2020 9:55:29 GMT
A new ground/redeveloped Mem, will be owned by Dwane Sports (or whoever they sale the club to), not Bristol Rovers. A redeveloped Mem, 20K capacity with no room to expand, (to me) says the Championship will be our target, but realistically we'll be a League 1 club. Look at Brentford, moving to a brand stadium with a capacity of 17250 approx, & no expansion possible, obviously happy to stay in the championship... They're literally going for promotion. What they are actually doing is building a stadium for their needs. Considering we've not played in the second tier since May 1993, and the top tier, well, never, I don't think that's a bad aim to start off.
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Post by peterparker on Feb 24, 2020 9:58:41 GMT
A new ground/redeveloped Mem, will be owned by Dwane Sports (or whoever they sale the club to), not Bristol Rovers. A redeveloped Mem, 20K capacity with no room to expand, (to me) says the Championship will be our target, but realistically we'll be a League 1 club. Look at Brentford, moving to a brand stadium with a capacity of 17250 approx, & no expansion possible, obviously happy to stay in the championship... That's not strictly true though. Capacity doesn't matter so much in The Prem.
If Brentford get promoted 17,000 is enough. Prem clubs can literally have zero fans in the stadium and generate insane revenue just from TV.
More fans/bigger capacity is obviously preferable as it all generates revenue, but the TV deals across the world for The Prem dwarf anything match day income generates
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 24, 2020 10:10:25 GMT
The actual attendance at the ground is of less importance than it once was as there are so many other income streams. Our aims need to be realistic.. In all honesty if we became a competitive Championship side it would be a quantum leap from where we are now.
It would be such a shame if we sold the current site to developers. We would never regain a foot hold in the city again. Sites like the Mem are priceless to a club like us.
Developers can’t wait to get us out and some on here are in danger of falling for it. We nearly died when the consequences of selling Eastville worked through and we’ve got a second chance we won’t get a third.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 24, 2020 10:50:52 GMT
You don't need huge stadia to enjoy Premiership football. Bournemouth's Dean Court holds approximately 12,000. There are other funding streams in the Premiership that can compensate more than adequately for small ground capacity. However, the mega stadia capacities will increase the income stream but are not essential for survival in the top tier.
But are we getting ahead of ourselves? This club has never played one match in the top tier. In three years time, we could be "celebrating" the 30th anniversary since our last season in the second tier.
For almost 30 years, we have played professional football in either the third or fourth tiers with one heroic season in non league.
This club and its fans have endured decades of mediocrity.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 24, 2020 11:25:59 GMT
You don't need huge stadia to enjoy Premiership football. Bournemouth's Dean Court holds approximately 12,000. There are other funding streams in the Premiership that can compensate more than adequately for small ground capacity. However, the mega stadia capacities will increase the income stream but are not essential for survival in the top tier. Poor example, I know a few AFCB supporters that are fuming they've not invested in the ground. Aside from PL income, AFCB have very little revenue streams.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 24, 2020 11:32:53 GMT
You don't need huge stadia to enjoy Premiership football. Bournemouth's Dean Court holds approximately 12,000. There are other funding streams in the Premiership that can compensate more than adequately for small ground capacity. However, the mega stadia capacities will increase the income stream but are not essential for survival in the top tier. Poor example, I know a few AFCB supporters that are fuming they've not invested in the ground. Aside from PL income, AFCB have very little revenue streams. Yep, all they did was put up the temporary stand behind the goal. So strange as they have so much space around the stadium
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Post by Marshy on Feb 24, 2020 11:44:20 GMT
Poor example, I know a few AFCB supporters that are fuming they've not invested in the ground. Aside from PL income, AFCB have very little revenue streams. Yep, all they did was put up the temporary stand behind the goal. So strange as they have so much space around the stadium They probably didn’t think they would be in the prem for as long as they have, although they seem to be in real danger this year of dropping out.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 24, 2020 12:01:51 GMT
Yep, all they did was put up the temporary stand behind the goal. So strange as they have so much space around the stadium They probably didn’t think they would be in the prem for as long as they have, although they seem to be in real danger this year of dropping out. It's less the actual stadium, more non-matchday revenue is the problem. Same with Rovers.
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Post by baggins on Feb 24, 2020 13:15:58 GMT
They probably didn’t think they would be in the prem for as long as they have, although they seem to be in real danger this year of dropping out. It's less the actual stadium, more non-matchday revenue is the problem. Same with Rovers. Which means Mem development won't work.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 24, 2020 13:22:36 GMT
It's less the actual stadium, more non-matchday revenue is the problem. Same with Rovers. Which means Mem development won't work. Of course it won’t it’s in such a bad location for businesses. Have you seen how much debt the Mall is in.
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Post by baggins on Feb 24, 2020 13:23:51 GMT
Which means Mem development won't work. Of course it won’t it’s in such a bad location for businesses. Have you seen how much debt the Mall is in. Nope. Does it has any bearing on non matchday revenue?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 24, 2020 13:25:23 GMT
The example of Bournemouth shouldn’t be used to temper our expectations regards new facilities. Whilst they have survived in the Prem ok, it’s the getting there that is the problem and why having a decent sized stadium with exemplary facilities is critical unless you have a sugar daddy to fund signings. Even city have struggled with that.
It’s not the seat count that’s the important factor it’s the inclusive non match day facilities to generate additional revenue. We won’t be able to achieve that at the Mem. For our future sustainability it’s vital we move to new facilities elsewhere.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 24, 2020 13:29:34 GMT
Of course it won’t it’s in such a bad location for businesses. Have you seen how much debt the Mall is in. Nope. Does it has any bearing on non matchday revenue? Yes massively
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Post by baggins on Feb 24, 2020 13:36:57 GMT
Nope. Does it has any bearing on non matchday revenue? Yes massively Sorry, but I'm not getting your point. No offence.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 24, 2020 13:51:26 GMT
Sorry, but I'm not getting your point. No offence. In a nut shell out of town developments are dying on their arses profit wise. Car sales are falling dramatically, the eco pound is where the future is. Yet some think it’s a good idea to ship out of our city site. As always we’re 40 years behind the times!!!!
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Post by baggins on Feb 24, 2020 13:57:36 GMT
Sorry, but I'm not getting your point. No offence. In a nut shell out of town developments are dying on their arses profit wise. Car sales are falling dramatically, the eco pound is where the future is. Yet some think it’s a good idea to ship out of our city site. As always we’re 40 years behind the times!!!! Sorry fella but I don't get the connection with needing a Stadium that can offer an out of hours Stadium with all the trimmings and car sales and the eco pound.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 24, 2020 14:05:05 GMT
In a nut shell out of town developments are dying on their arses profit wise. Car sales are falling dramatically, the eco pound is where the future is. Yet some think it’s a good idea to ship out of our city site. As always we’re 40 years behind the times!!!! Sorry fella but I don't get the connection with needing a Stadium that can offer an out of hours Stadium with all the trimmings and car sales and the eco pound. Where are the available sites in Bristol within walking distance of 10’s 100’s of thousands of customers?
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Post by baggins on Feb 24, 2020 14:08:47 GMT
Sorry fella but I don't get the connection with needing a Stadium that can offer an out of hours Stadium with all the trimmings and car sales and the eco pound. Where are the available sites in Bristol within walking distance of 10’s 100’s of thousands of customers? That's a question that needs to be put to the Club and to the relevant Councils.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 24, 2020 14:17:52 GMT
Where are the available sites in Bristol within walking distance of 10’s 100’s of thousands of customers? That's a question that needs to be put to the Club and to the relevant Councils. Exactly and another 40 years down the pan. There is a very good reason why developers were keen to Nick the Mem off of us. Thankfully looks they’ve been seen off
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