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Post by baggins on Jul 9, 2020 12:57:39 GMT
Relatively wealthy? Not sure 60,000 people could easily afford tickets. That’s the crust of the matter City could attract 30k in the premier league but 90% of them will be the prawn sandwich bridgade paying £80 a ticket. The football fans will be watching us in the championship, a more competitive league, for £30, sell out every week.. Sell out, of what sized Stadium? Not being pedantic just interested.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 9, 2020 13:01:38 GMT
So what's the easiest, for City increase their attendances by 7K to 28K (I think that's AG's capacity?) for Premiership football, or Rovers to increase theirs by 12/13K to 20K due to just a new ground/possible promotion? Even if City's only went up to 25K ours 15K that's still around 10K extra new football fans to find. Well last time I checked 21 + 7 doesn't = 30. I think an additional 5,000 on each set of fans is entirely plausible and comparable to historic figures. Historic figures don't really come into when they are so old to be irrelevant, the last time we were getting 20K gates was in the 70's and probably more that half of those fans are no longer even alive today. Not sure sure when both sides were getting 20K gates was that in the 70's as well, is so, that's nearly 50 years ago, the generation we need to attract will have probably never watched football on a regular basis.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 9, 2020 13:05:22 GMT
Football fans are fickle. If we had a stadium and were top 6 championship we could expect to match the 82'ers crowds. Both team will sell 25k tickets easily per game in the premier league especially in the first season. Greater Bristol population is over a million and relatively wealthy. All we need is a stadium. Not sure we'd become a top 6 championship club overnight, it's getting 15K in the ground when we're still a top 6 L1 side/bottom 6 championship side that's the issue, as far as getting 25K gates, there's zero evidence there's that many potential Gasheads for another more than off games.
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Post by LJG on Jul 9, 2020 13:06:46 GMT
Well last time I checked 21 + 7 doesn't = 30. I think an additional 5,000 on each set of fans is entirely plausible and comparable to historic figures. Historic figures don't really come into when they are so old to be irrelevant, the last time we were getting 20K gates was in the 70's and probably more that half of those fans are no longer even alive today. Not sure sure when both sides were getting 20K gates was that in the 70's as well, is so, that's nearly 50 years ago, the generation we need to attract will have probably never watched football on a regular basis. Again, I don't think 10 + 5 = 20. Have you been skipping home school lately, topps?
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Post by bluebiro on Jul 9, 2020 13:10:49 GMT
If getting to the centre o f bristol with train bus cycle and road link is a no go for some be interesting to see where else in bristol has these links in place.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 9, 2020 13:20:03 GMT
Historic figures don't really come into when they are so old to be irrelevant, the last time we were getting 20K gates was in the 70's and probably more that half of those fans are no longer even alive today. Not sure sure when both sides were getting 20K gates was that in the 70's as well, is so, that's nearly 50 years ago, the generation we need to attract will have probably never watched football on a regular basis. Again, I don't think 10 + 5 = 20. Have you been skipping home school lately, topps? From memory the last time we had 15K gates was in the 70's when gates for the big games were 20K, we never had them at Twerton nor the Mem, regardless the point was we'll need to find 5K extra fans who've probably never watched Rovers regularly in their lifetimes, possibly even their parents didn't either, hence I can't see historic averages come into it. If we can get 15K into a new stadium I sense we'll have been the only 2 team city to have done that in recent times. I wonder how Sheff Weds gates have been affected by Sheff Utd promotion, I'll check when I get a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2020 13:26:46 GMT
Again, I don't think 10 + 5 = 20. Have you been skipping home school lately, topps? From memory the last time we had 15K gates was in the 70's when gates for the big games were 20K, we never had them at Twerton nor the Mem, regardless the point was we'll need to find 5K extra fans who've probably never watched Rovers regularly in their lifetimes, possibly even their parents didn't either, hence I can't see historic averages come into it. If we can get 15K into a new stadium I sense we'll have been the only 2 team city to have done that in recent times. I wonder how Sheff Weds gates have been affected by Sheff Utd promotion, I'll check when I get a chance. Wednesday average home attendance 2018-19 is 24,429 Wednesday average home attendance 2019-20 is 23,773 They had a few home games to go this season that may have pushed them up to the same sort of number or perhaps bring it down
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Post by LJG on Jul 9, 2020 13:33:25 GMT
Again, I don't think 10 + 5 = 20. Have you been skipping home school lately, topps? From memory the last time we had 15K gates was in the 70's when gates for the big games were 20K, we never had them at Twerton nor the Mem, regardless the point was we'll need to find 5K extra fans who've probably never watched Rovers regularly in their lifetimes, possibly even their parents didn't either, hence I can't see historic averages come into it. If we can get 15K into a new stadium I sense we'll have been the only 2 team city to have done that in recent times. I wonder how Sheff Weds gates have been affected by Sheff Utd promotion, I'll check when I get a chance. Errr ... Manchester? Liverpool? London? Birmingham? Glasgow? Sheffield? What point are you trying to make? An increase from 9.5k average in League 1 at the Mem to 15k average in the Championship is easily achievable. We know this because City average attendance 15/16 season = 15k, 16/17 = 19k, 17-18 to date = 21ishk.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Jul 9, 2020 14:21:52 GMT
Relatively wealthy? Not sure 60,000 people could easily afford tickets. That’s the crust of the matter City could attract 30k in the premier league but 90% of them will be the prawn sandwich bridgade paying £80 a ticket. The football fans will be watching us in the championship, a more competitive league, for £30, sell out every week.. There are more supporters than those that go to the stadium and watch it, I only went 4 times last season, I guarantee you if there's a new stadium and a new sense of fighting spirit, like we're really trying to get somewhere... without a doubt I would by a season ticket, and I'm not the only one
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Post by LJG on Jul 9, 2020 14:24:27 GMT
That’s the crust of the matter City could attract 30k in the premier league but 90% of them will be the prawn sandwich bridgade paying £80 a ticket. The football fans will be watching us in the championship, a more competitive league, for £30, sell out every week.. There are more supporters than those that go to the stadium and watch it, I only went 4 times last season, I guarantee you if there's a new stadium and a new sense of fighting spirit, like we're really trying to get somewhere... without a doubt I would by a season ticket, and I'm not the only one Good to know that, with your record as manager, we haven't been letting you into games free.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Jul 9, 2020 14:26:24 GMT
What's this 30,000 rubbish? City's attendance barely scrapes 21k and only then for the last 2 seasons when they've been in with a shout of going up. In 15/16 it was 15,000. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that even if they were Premier league they would have a higher average attendance than the likes of Southampton, Palace, Fulham, Norwich, Stoke, Swansea and West Brom. So what's the easiest, for City increase their attendances by 7K to 28K (I think that's AG's capacity?) for Premiership football, or Rovers to increase theirs by 12/13K to 20K due to just a new ground/possible promotion? Even if City's only went up to 25K ours 15K that's still around 10K extra new football fans to find. These guys exist trust me, we've been lied to and disappointed... but we're here, and when things start to change youll find us making the numbers up
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Post by baggins on Jul 9, 2020 14:46:53 GMT
So what's the easiest, for City increase their attendances by 7K to 28K (I think that's AG's capacity?) for Premiership football, or Rovers to increase theirs by 12/13K to 20K due to just a new ground/possible promotion? Even if City's only went up to 25K ours 15K that's still around 10K extra new football fans to find. These guys exist trust me, we've been lied to and disappointed... but we're here, and when things start to change youll find us making the numbers up Lied to?
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Post by yattongas on Jul 9, 2020 14:51:17 GMT
The fruit market site means one thing. BRFC have no other option but become direct competition with Bristol sports football dept. BCFC 1982 Ltd. The stadium site is city centre located in the same way Ashton gate is. People from all over the city will travelling the same sort of distances to reach each ground. If the club (BRFC) think they can exist as an individual entity not dependent on the other lots success or failure they will get a big shock. A large stadium needs bums on seats so many can pick or choose what seat to sit on red or blue and that may depend on the level of football on display. The fruit market site is a bold statement of we are here to steal your market of fans. Look at how close Nottingham forest and notts county stadiums are. Which one gets the crowds ? Nonsense
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Jul 9, 2020 14:51:46 GMT
So what's the easiest, for City increase their attendances by 7K to 28K (I think that's AG's capacity?) for Premiership football, or Rovers to increase theirs by 12/13K to 20K due to just a new ground/possible promotion? Even if City's only went up to 25K ours 15K that's still around 10K extra new football fans to find. These guys exist trust me, we've been lied to and disappointed... but we're here, and when things start to change youll find us making the numbers up The amount of blokes I know that are rovers in name but not attendance (I probably fall into this category quite a bit) is mental. I do think if a new stadium, a debt free club And the playing style revolutionised can’t persuade all of us back, then nothing will.
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Post by baggins on Jul 9, 2020 14:55:56 GMT
These guys exist trust me, we've been lied to and disappointed... but we're here, and when things start to change youll find us making the numbers up The amount of blokes I know that are rovers in name but not attendance (I probably fall into this category quite a bit) is mental. I do think if a new stadium, a debt free club And the playing style revolutionised can’t persuade all of us back, then nothing will. No one goes to the Rovers because they're debt free.
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Post by chewbacca on Jul 9, 2020 14:58:05 GMT
Are we having the Bristol can't support two professional clubs argument again?
True, one died in 1982.
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Post by yattongas on Jul 9, 2020 14:58:41 GMT
People moaning about the location of the fruit market .....FFS ! I managed to get from Portishead to Twerton on my Tod using two buses every other sat . The chance to have a brand spanking new stadium in the middle of our city will be the greatest thing ever to happen to this club yet still some people moan ! Get a life
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Post by Gassy on Jul 9, 2020 15:03:29 GMT
People moaning about the location of the fruit market .....FFS ! I managed to get from Portishead to Twerton on my Tod using two buses every other sat . The chance to have a brand spanking new stadium in the middle of our city will be the greatest thing ever to happen to this club yet still some people moan ! Get a life Whilst I agree that it's a fantastic opportunity and would be the greatest thing to ever happen to BRFC, if it makes it more difficult for some fans to get there I believe they're more than entitled to express their opinion without being told to get a life?
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Jul 9, 2020 15:04:28 GMT
The amount of blokes I know that are rovers in name but not attendance (I probably fall into this category quite a bit) is mental. I do think if a new stadium, a debt free club And the playing style revolutionised can’t persuade all of us back, then nothing will. No one goes to the Rovers because they're debt free. I know that but what I’m saying is if all these positive things that are happening off the pitch and hopefully with what also seems a possible major improvement to the playing Squad, then there’s no hope getting people back consistently.
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Post by yattongas on Jul 9, 2020 15:04:35 GMT
People moaning about the location of the fruit market .....FFS ! I managed to get from Portishead to Twerton on my Tod using two buses every other sat . The chance to have a brand spanking new stadium in the middle of our city will be the greatest thing ever to happen to this club yet still some people moan ! Get a life Whilst I agree that it's a fantastic opportunity and would be the greatest thing to ever happen to BRFC, if it makes it more difficult for some fans to get there I believe they're more than entitled to express their opinion without being told to get a life? No they’re not 😂👍
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