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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Jan 9, 2021 17:12:55 GMT
View AttachmentTelegraph today previewing the Sheff Utd game has a good feature on the game about Mr Wael being a Jordanian 'Gashead'.The article states that he has suspended plans to explore the redevelopment of a fruit market in Central Bristol as a site for the club's next stadium'. Suspended. Not abandoned. Could be for many reasons...who wants to start guessing He said in his interview with Sam Frost the stadium plans had gone into deep freeze while we all survive COVID. With a little patience and things start to pick up again we hopefully might start to see some movement again.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 9, 2021 18:15:27 GMT
Suspended. Not abandoned. Could be for many reasons...who wants to start guessing He said in his interview with Sam Frost the stadium plans had gone into deep freeze while we all survive COVID. With a little patience and things start to pick up again we hopefully might start to see some movement again. “With a little patience” 😳
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Post by Westy on Jan 9, 2021 18:54:34 GMT
It'd be lovely to get some stadium news but it's not worth getting worked up over in the middle of this pandemic - sounds like we're just on pause until the bloody thing is over. Last time we had a big world history event (WW2) we had to sell our ground to stay afloat. Wael did an interview with the Bristol Post, watched a few minutes of it last night just to hear what he had to say on the stadium matter as the rest just seemed to be the usual niceties about training grounds, managerial appointments and transfer windows (although the PT stuff I skipped by did sound a little interesting). It very much sounded like, don't expect progress until this is all over. Almost goes without saying really!
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 9, 2021 19:34:55 GMT
Forgotten this thread existed!
A stadium isn’t much point if folk can’t go inside them. And I can’t see fans being allowed in until next season at the earliest.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 9, 2021 19:35:58 GMT
Forgotten this thread existed! A stadium isn’t much point if folk can’t go inside them. And I can’t see fans being allowed in until next season at the earliest. All the more reason to get building now then
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 9, 2021 19:50:41 GMT
Forgotten this thread existed! A stadium isn’t much point if folk can’t go inside them. And I can’t see fans being allowed in until next season at the earliest. Unless the club's got pp in secret and it's being built underground there's zero chance of being built for next season, or the following one for that matter. I sense COVID is just being used nowas a convinent excuse as there's no reason why we can't press on with agreeing a deal for the land and also getting pp, so we're ready to proceed once the pandemic comes to end. Starting to think the FM is another dead stadium plan.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 9, 2021 20:00:59 GMT
Forgotten this thread existed! A stadium isn’t much point if folk can’t go inside them. And I can’t see fans being allowed in until next season at the earliest. Unless the club's got pp in secret and it's being built underground there's zero chance of being built for next season F*cking hell Topper 😂
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Post by nottsgas on Jan 9, 2021 21:19:45 GMT
I sense COVID is just being used nowas a convinent excuse as there's no reason why we can't press on with agreeing a deal for the land and also getting pp, so we're ready to proceed once the pandemic comes to end. Starting to think the FM is another dead stadium plan. I think that's a bit unfair on the club, it's disingenuous to pretend COVID won't have an effect on how the owners of the Fruit Market are viewing their futures; it's entirely believable that they want to see what the hospitality industry is going to look like post-lockdown before making any decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 23:33:45 GMT
I sense COVID is just being used nowas a convinent excuse as there's no reason why we can't press on with agreeing a deal for the land and also getting pp, so we're ready to proceed once the pandemic comes to end. Starting to think the FM is another dead stadium plan. I think that's a bit unfair on the club, it's disingenuous to pretend COVID won't have an effect on how the owners of the Fruit Market are viewing their futures; it's entirely believable that they want to see what the hospitality industry is going to look like post-lockdown before making any decisions. And once contracts are signed you are locked in to a very expensive deal and who knows what’s going to happen with land prices post pandemic... it’s already been proven that for the majority of office type work etc that people can work from home and these large offices that were built everywhere may no longer be needed meaning that land prices could go down and a large office space somewhere could get knocked down and land repurposed. No idea? But what I do know that I wouldn’t be recommending any firms I work with to sign into any expensive contracts at this moment in time unless it was absolutely essential and there were guaranteed returns...
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Post by gas2 on Jan 10, 2021 5:49:03 GMT
The perfect storm the pandemic and brexit has hit everybody hard can't bkame the club anymore for not moving forward
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 10, 2021 8:05:17 GMT
I think that's a bit unfair on the club, it's disingenuous to pretend COVID won't have an effect on how the owners of the Fruit Market are viewing their futures; it's entirely believable that they want to see what the hospitality industry is going to look like post-lockdown before making any decisions. And once contracts are signed you are locked in to a very expensive deal and who knows what’s going to happen with land prices post pandemic... it’s already been proven that for the majority of office type work etc that people can work from home and these large offices that were built everywhere may no longer be needed meaning that land prices could go down and a large office space somewhere could get knocked down and land repurposed. No idea? But what I do know that I wouldn’t be recommending any firms I work with to sign into any expensive contracts at this moment in time unless it was absolutely essential and there were guaranteed returns... This is quite true. I was talking to a customer of mine who works for an aerospace company and they have had a huge shift in how they work all of their departments. The numbers were crunched on buying everyone in his department a laptop to the value of £700 and contributing £15 towards their internet at home then multiplying it by every department that is solely office based then that company would save £50m per year in real estate savings alone. Within the next 2 years there will be a huge rethink on commercial developments purely based on how we have coped with the pandemic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 9:03:18 GMT
And once contracts are signed you are locked in to a very expensive deal and who knows what’s going to happen with land prices post pandemic... it’s already been proven that for the majority of office type work etc that people can work from home and these large offices that were built everywhere may no longer be needed meaning that land prices could go down and a large office space somewhere could get knocked down and land repurposed. No idea? But what I do know that I wouldn’t be recommending any firms I work with to sign into any expensive contracts at this moment in time unless it was absolutely essential and there were guaranteed returns... This is quite true. I was talking to a customer of mine who works for an aerospace company and they have had a huge shift in how they work all of their departments. The numbers were crunched on buying everyone in his department a laptop to the value of £700 and contributing £15 towards their internet at home then multiplying it by every department that is solely office based then that company would save £50m per year in real estate savings alone. Within the next 2 years there will be a huge rethink on commercial developments purely based on how we have coped with the pandemic. Yes and that is a real worry for pensions. Lots of pensions interlinked with commercial property portfolios. Lots of large organisations are realising they simply do not need large percentages of the spaces they are occupying.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 10, 2021 9:08:33 GMT
This is quite true. I was talking to a customer of mine who works for an aerospace company and they have had a huge shift in how they work all of their departments. The numbers were crunched on buying everyone in his department a laptop to the value of £700 and contributing £15 towards their internet at home then multiplying it by every department that is solely office based then that company would save £50m per year in real estate savings alone. Within the next 2 years there will be a huge rethink on commercial developments purely based on how we have coped with the pandemic. Yes and that is a real worry for pensions. Lots of pensions interlinked with commercial property portfolios. Lots of large organisations are realising they simply do not need large percentages of the spaces they are occupying. Good point, I hadn't considered that. It's crazy how many secondary and tertiary affects this pandemic is having and will have long into the future, many of which will not come into light until the pandemic is "over".
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Post by legas on Jan 10, 2021 10:57:49 GMT
The organisation I work for has office premises across the country. While still retaining some ‘local presence’ and bases for people who can’t work from home, all leases are being reviewed. Those for larger, central buildings are not being renewed. Another knock on effect is that there used to be local travel across the country to meetings (especially to London). Face-to-face meetings once deemed necessary have now been proven to work just as well virtually and so most of this travel will be a thing of the past, including the expensive rental of meeting rooms off-site (e.g. hotels / conference centres) when a local office was too full (or not regarded as good enough). These changes are not short term either. For example, many are being asked to have their homes recognised as their permanent bases in their contracts of employment (pros and cons to this). I certainly won’t be using an office again any time soon, which suits me (... apart from my wife expecting me to have put the washing on and emptied the dishwasher when she gets home).
It will indeed be interesting to know how opportunities for a stadium will have changed due to COVID (for better or for worse).
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 10, 2021 12:26:40 GMT
Maybe we’ve dodged a bullet building a stadium with large public areas that may see limited use on non match days in the future, as the world comes to term with a different way of living.
However if you ever need to know how much we need to sort out the eyesore that is the Mem have a listen to the BBC Radio 5 Live Commentator trying to describe our ground yesterday. I think he actually gave up half way through in a dazed and confused state.
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Post by albaron on Jan 10, 2021 12:34:24 GMT
Maybe we’ve dodged a bullet building a stadium with large public areas that may see limited use on non match days in the future, as the world comes to term with a different way of living. However if you ever need to know how much we need to sort out the eyesore that is the Mem have a listen to the BBC Radio 5 Live Commentator trying to describe our ground yesterday. I think he actually gave up half way through in a dazed and confused state. Totally agree with you about the 5 live commentory -- especially when he stated " the ball has just landed in a skip " God knows what other fans of other clubs must have been thinking when they heard that.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 10, 2021 15:54:23 GMT
Maybe we’ve dodged a bullet building a stadium with large public areas that may see limited use on non match days in the future, as the world comes to term with a different way of living. However if you ever need to know how much we need to sort out the eyesore that is the Mem have a listen to the BBC Radio 5 Live Commentator trying to describe our ground yesterday. I think he actually gave up half way through in a dazed and confused state. Hancock is suggesting every UK citizen will be vaccinated by the autumn, assuming that's case then life will return to something approaching normality by next winter. No doubt that will upset the doom merchants.
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Post by Jomo on Jan 10, 2021 16:09:40 GMT
Maybe we’ve dodged a bullet building a stadium with large public areas that may see limited use on non match days in the future, as the world comes to term with a different way of living. However if you ever need to know how much we need to sort out the eyesore that is the Mem have a listen to the BBC Radio 5 Live Commentator trying to describe our ground yesterday. I think he actually gave up half way through in a dazed and confused state. Hancock is suggesting every UK citizen will be vaccinated by the autumn, assuming that's case then life will return to something approaching normality by next winter. No doubt that will upset the doom merchants. Upset the doom merchants? You don't half talk bollox a lot of the time. In fact almost all the time.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 10, 2021 16:20:03 GMT
Maybe we’ve dodged a bullet building a stadium with large public areas that may see limited use on non match days in the future, as the world comes to term with a different way of living. However if you ever need to know how much we need to sort out the eyesore that is the Mem have a listen to the BBC Radio 5 Live Commentator trying to describe our ground yesterday. I think he actually gave up half way through in a dazed and confused state. Totally agree with you about the 5 live commentory -- especially when he stated " the ball has just landed in a skip " God knows what other fans of other clubs must have been thinking when they heard that. Bolton fans said Mem was like something out of Chernobyl,BBC Radio Stoke during a Vale game said,The stand there looks like a cricket Pavilion and nothing matches but the best was the visiting Dutch fans on a non match day who expressed surprise we had a stand at our training pitch!!!!!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 10, 2021 16:58:19 GMT
Maybe we’ve dodged a bullet building a stadium with large public areas that may see limited use on non match days in the future, as the world comes to term with a different way of living. However if you ever need to know how much we need to sort out the eyesore that is the Mem have a listen to the BBC Radio 5 Live Commentator trying to describe our ground yesterday. I think he actually gave up half way through in a dazed and confused state. Hancock is suggesting every UK citizen will be vaccinated by the autumn, assuming that's case then life will return to something approaching normality by next winter. No doubt that will upset the doom merchants. In some areas yes. But you're completely missing the point that some changes have been bought forward (or about entirely) . For instance 'office' jobs may have changed for good, with many office workers enjoying a more home based job. And the move to doing more online has been bought forward years out of necessity. That's just two examples.
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