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Post by stokegiffordgas on Aug 4, 2019 21:50:55 GMT
I can't see any reference to this on the official website or twitter account. I want to believe it but just feel like it's groundhog day with a bit of boy who cried wolf thrown in to the mix!
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Post by singupgas on Aug 4, 2019 22:06:36 GMT
I can't see any reference to this on the official website or twitter account. I want to believe it but just feel like it's groundhog day with a bit of boy who cried wolf thrown in to the mix! I am with you. Until I see an artist impression of the ground, and confirmation we actually own the land then nothing has changed for me. Wsnt to believe it, but not going to hold my breath, bored of the failed attempts. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 4, 2019 22:09:45 GMT
I can't see any reference to this on the official website or twitter account. I want to believe it but just feel like it's groundhog day with a bit of boy who cried wolf thrown in to the mix! I am with you. Until I see an artist impression of the ground, and confirmation we actually own the land then nothing has changed for me. Wsnt to believe it, but not going to hold my breath, bored of the failed attempts. I won't believe it then. Look at Uwe. I want it to happen and I believe, we are trying. But there are so many hurdles at every stage. Once I'm sat in a new stadium, I then will be happy. |
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Post by womble on Aug 4, 2019 22:33:04 GMT
I can't see any reference to this on the official website or twitter account. I want to believe it but just feel like it's groundhog day with a bit of boy who cried wolf thrown in to the mix! I am with you. Until I see an artist impression of the ground, and confirmation we actually own the land then nothing has changed for me. Wsnt to believe it, but not going to hold my breath, bored of the failed attempts. Could be a long wait. If we have a deal to buy the Fruit Market site, it will be subject to us gaining planning permission. That process in itself will take months. Heaven knows how many pages we'll be up to if/when that happens. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 22:49:14 GMT
I'm desperate for us to move away from the tip that is the Memorial Ground. It's lack of atmosphere and facilities, not to mention the more important point that it cannot take us forward make it something that needs consigning to our history. The quicker it's knocked down and turned into a more fitting memorial, the better. However, am I alone in thinking that this is a terrible location for a football stadium? Yes, it's near the train station, but not many people will pay the costs of rail travel to go to a football match. The bus servive is poor, largely because Bristol is massively clogged up with traffic. If the club think people will use public transport, I think they are in cloud cuckoo land. That leaves the car. Most people clearly use the car at present, but if we think parking is bad in Horfield, it's nothing compared to the St Phillips area. There would need to be a massive re-think of the area before parking would be a practical solution. As I say, I'm desperate to leave the Mem, but surely in this day and age it has to be to an out of town site? I look forward to hearing more about our plans, but fear that if the transport issue isn't resolved, it could end up being a lovely shiny stadium that is only 20% full. But like most people, I'm no expert on stadia or transport planning. What am I missing?A brain and any knowledge of the planning process. Out off town development died decades ago due mainly to traffic and cars. get on the train, bus or even better. As Norm Tebbett said "get on yer bike" on yer Thank you for your rudeness and insulting words. It was a simple question that did not deserve that kind of response. However, in the interests of sensible debate, I admit to no knowledge of the planning process. That's why I asked the question. I hope this project works, but it can't be denied that there are obvious questions to be answered about it. Aside from questions of financing a large city centre site, realistically, are people going to get on their bike to go to a football ground? Buses are ok in theory, but Bristol has a bit of an issue with clogged up roads, so the system isn't the best. Rail traffic is horrendously expensive and wouldn't be an option unless you live in a different town or city anyway. It's all very well to say don't use the car, but until there are realistic alternatives that offer the same convenience, it's just not going to happen. That's not about football grounds specifically, that's a society thing. |
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Post by womble on Aug 4, 2019 23:05:19 GMT
However, in the interests of sensible debate, I admit to no knowledge of the planning process. That's why I asked the question. I hope this project works, but it can't be denied that there are obvious questions to be answered about it. Aside from questions of financing a large city centre site, realistically, are people going to get on their bike to go to a football ground? Buses are ok in theory, but Bristol has a bit of an issue with clogged up roads, so the system isn't the best. Rail traffic is horrendously expensive and wouldn't be an option unless you live in a different town or city anyway. It's all very well to say don't use the car, but until there are realistic alternatives that offer the same convenience, it's just not going to happen. That's not about football grounds specifically, that's a society thing. Actually over short-ish distances, rail is not particularly expensive. We would have rail access from W-S-M, Keynsham, Bath, Yate, all the stations along the Severn Beach line out to Avonmouth and in the future, Portishead, Pill, Ashley Hill, Henbury and Filton. The new Metrobus routes stop within a walkable distance and matchday bus services are highly likely. It would be different to now, but I don't think it's an impossibility. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 23:19:37 GMT
However, in the interests of sensible debate, I admit to no knowledge of the planning process. That's why I asked the question. I hope this project works, but it can't be denied that there are obvious questions to be answered about it. Aside from questions of financing a large city centre site, realistically, are people going to get on their bike to go to a football ground? Buses are ok in theory, but Bristol has a bit of an issue with clogged up roads, so the system isn't the best. Rail traffic is horrendously expensive and wouldn't be an option unless you live in a different town or city anyway. It's all very well to say don't use the car, but until there are realistic alternatives that offer the same convenience, it's just not going to happen. That's not about football grounds specifically, that's a society thing. Actually over short-ish distances, rail is not particularly expensive. We would have rail access from W-S-M, Keynsham, Bath, Yate, all the stations along the Severn Beach line out to Avonmouth and in the future, Portishead, Pill, Ashley Hill, Henbury and Filton. The new Metrobus routes stop within a walkable distance and matchday bus services are highly likely. It would be different to now, but I don't think it's an impossibility. I take your point, but in my case I'd probably use Keynsham if forced to use the train. That would be another fiver or so per person, plus parking. Added to the cost of having to sit at the ground (I'm not against that necessarily, it's just how it would be), that's a matchday price of £35-£40 for one person. I just wonder if we are in danger of pricing people out? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 23:23:10 GMT
Al Qadi also said that the Mem cannot be sold until the new stadium is given the green light by the Council.
Cynical mind me!
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Post by Jomo on Aug 4, 2019 23:41:26 GMT
Actually over short-ish distances, rail is not particularly expensive. We would have rail access from W-S-M, Keynsham, Bath, Yate, all the stations along the Severn Beach line out to Avonmouth and in the future, Portishead, Pill, Ashley Hill, Henbury and Filton. The new Metrobus routes stop within a walkable distance and matchday bus services are highly likely. It would be different to now, but I don't think it's an impossibility. I take your point, but in my case I'd probably use Keynsham if forced to use the train. That would be another fiver or so per person, plus parking. Added to the cost of having to sit at the ground (I'm not against that necessarily, it's just how it would be), that's a matchday price of £35-£40 for one person. I just wonder if we are in danger of pricing people out? This is true. For all the best will in the world I would love to use public transport more, but for me personally and I'm just one insignificant example of many, it takes me 15 minutes to walk to the nearest bus stop, I then normally have to wait another 15 minutes or so until the next bus as they're never on time so I have to ensure I'm there in plenty of time in case I miss one, then the journey into Bristol takes 45 minutes and costs over £6 per person for a day pass, then the walk to my destination, then the same in reverse on the way back albeit with the usual prospect of buses being postponed or cancelled or too full to get on. It's OK from time to time when my car is in the garage or something and I know some people do it day in day out but compared to the car it's just too inconvenient and too expensive when in the car you can split the fuel and parking several ways if you've shared a lift with others. The country need to find ways to encourage me and many many others like me to use public transport and until it's more affordable and more regular then it won't happen. Park and ride on the other hand I probably would use if there was convenient one not far out of the way. |
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Post by Gasshole on Aug 5, 2019 0:27:17 GMT
A regular brisk walk is great for weight control and mental well being.
Use Public transport and save the planet by reducing your carbon foot print. I take the bus everyday, you get to meet a lot of interesting people.
#i see weirdoes
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Post by gasheadpirate on Aug 5, 2019 5:49:54 GMT
A regular brisk walk is great for weight control and mental well being. Use Public transport and save the planet by reducing your carbon foot print. I take the bus everyday, you get to meet a lot of interesting people. #i see weirdoes It’s a bit of a walk from near Andover. |
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Post by pepsi on Aug 5, 2019 6:11:34 GMT
A regular brisk walk is great for weight control and mental well being. Use Public transport and save the planet by reducing your carbon foot print. I take the bus everyday, you get to meet a lot of interesting people. #i see weirdoes It’s a bit of a walk from near Andover. The 75 goes from hartcliffe, to the mem. And trust me it's not good for mental well being |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 5, 2019 6:19:41 GMT
Al Qadi also said that the Mem cannot be sold until the new stadium is given the green light by the Council. Cynical mind me! He said the only way we could sell the Mem is if we have secured a different stadium than the Mem. |
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Post by Jomo on Aug 5, 2019 6:36:19 GMT
A regular brisk walk is great for weight control and mental well being. Use Public transport and save the planet by reducing your carbon foot print. I take the bus everyday, you get to meet a lot of interesting people. #i see weirdoes Agreed on the regular brisk walk but if you spend an extra hour per day commuting by public transport and spend an extra, say, £3 per day over and above the cost of fuel, then that's over £700 per year and 10 full 24-hour days spent in commuting. Of course I'm using this in regards to working a 5 day week as an example only to highlight why many people would choose to use their car instead of public transport. I'm all for being environmentally conscious but to a point and then I have to think of whether it outweighs my need for spending quality time at home and having more money in the bank. For those with families especially and family season ticket, these are the sort of issues the club need to take into consideration to come up with solutions that work for everybody. |
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Post by althepirate on Aug 5, 2019 6:56:18 GMT
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Post by lympstonegas on Aug 5, 2019 6:59:02 GMT
It has not stopped Sunday markets is that not public use ? Also a bit worrying most of Bristol's fruit & veg has come from that site for 30 years but it's now too contaminated to build a football ground land on it! At worse I'd have thought the only area needing to be decontaminated is where the pitch will be situated and they can take all the time the stadium being built to do that. Reinforces our Gashead name lol |
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 5, 2019 7:02:47 GMT
A regular brisk walk is great for weight control and mental well being. Use Public transport and save the planet by reducing your carbon foot print. I take the bus everyday, you get to meet a lot of interesting people. #i see weirdoes Agreed on the regular brisk walk but if you spend an extra hour per day commuting by public transport and spend an extra, say, £3 per day over and above the cost of fuel, then that's over £700 per year and 10 full 24-hour days spent in commuting. Of course I'm using this in regards to working a 5 day week as an example only to highlight why many people would choose to use their car instead of public transport. I'm all for being environmentally conscious but to a point and then I have to think of whether it outweighs my need for spending quality time at home and having more money in the bank. For those with families especially and family season ticket, these are the sort of issues the club need to take into consideration to come up with solutions that work for everybody. Excuse me if I have the wrong end of the stick here; it is not down to the club to provide transport to any location that the team play at. That is surely an individual decision; I use the train to work from Parson Street most days of the week and the 75/76 bus to the Mem. There are ways and means to reduce the cost of travel rail cards and family tickets etc.
I for one would be happy if they can pull this one off; it fits in with the Councils idea of mixed use for the area. Of course I would be sorry to leave the Mem for sentimental reasons; but to survive we need to progress.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 5, 2019 7:03:22 GMT
A brain and any knowledge of the planning process. Out off town development died decades ago due mainly to traffic and cars. get on the train, bus or even better. As Norm Tebbett said "get on yer bike" on yer Thank you for your rudeness and insulting words. It was a simple question that did not deserve that kind of response. However, in the interests of sensible debate, I admit to no knowledge of the planning process. That's why I asked the question. I hope this project works, but it can't be denied that there are obvious questions to be answered about it. Aside from questions of financing a large city centre site, realistically, are people going to get on their bike to go to a football ground? Buses are ok in theory, but Bristol has a bit of an issue with clogged up roads, so the system isn't the best. Rail traffic is horrendously expensive and wouldn't be an option unless you live in a different town or city anyway. It's all very well to say don't use the car, but until there are realistic alternatives that offer the same convenience, it's just not going to happen. That's not about football grounds specifically, that's a society thing. Anyone will think there is a car exclusion zone around this patch of land. There will probably be more parking around this site than the Mem and Ashton Gate put together. All it means that public transport is a much better option than it is now, so it’s a positive. I currently drive to the Mem, if we move to st Phillips, a train ride return from temple meads is going to cost £7.40. |
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Post by Gasshole on Aug 5, 2019 7:04:29 GMT
A regular brisk walk is great for weight control and mental well being. Use Public transport and save the planet by reducing your carbon foot print. I take the bus everyday, you get to meet a lot of interesting people. #i see weirdoes It’s a bit of a walk from near Andover. Pfft, mostly down hill on the way back |
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Post by Jomo on Aug 5, 2019 7:05:32 GMT
Agreed on the regular brisk walk but if you spend an extra hour per day commuting by public transport and spend an extra, say, £3 per day over and above the cost of fuel, then that's over £700 per year and 10 full 24-hour days spent in commuting. Of course I'm using this in regards to working a 5 day week as an example only to highlight why many people would choose to use their car instead of public transport. I'm all for being environmentally conscious but to a point and then I have to think of whether it outweighs my need for spending quality time at home and having more money in the bank. For those with families especially and family season ticket, these are the sort of issues the club need to take into consideration to come up with solutions that work for everybody. Excuse me if I have the wrong end of the stick here; it is not down to the club to provide transport to any location that the team play at. That is surely an individual decision; I use the train to work from Parson Street most days of the week and the 75/76 bus to the Mem. There are ways and means to reduce the cost of travel rail cards and family tickets etc.
I for one would be happy if they can pull this one off; it fits in with the Councils idea of mixed use for the area. Of course I would be sorry to leave the Mem for sentimental reasons; but to survive we need to progress.
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You're right it's not down to the club but I wonder if they could assist some fans by providing a shuttle or park and ride service to reduce the cost for a large number of fans? Aside from that it's a societal thing that the club has no control over nor obligation to remedy. I agree I would be sad to see the end of our time at the top of Gloucester Road but yes if this project does succeed I will be delighted. |
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