|
Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Aug 6, 2019 11:00:14 GMT
Fruit market stays but within the concourses. I would say that means a healthier meal deal on match days but we know that wouldn't work under the 'dangerous fruit & veg act' If you can't come in with a weetabix you have no chance with a melon
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 6, 2019 11:10:40 GMT
Fruit market stays but within the concourses. I would say that means a healthier meal deal on match days but we know that wouldn't work under the 'dangerous fruit & veg act' If you can't come in with a weetabix you have no chance with a melon They also sell Flowers, so that could satisfy the pansies amounts us...
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2019 11:15:13 GMT
Speaking to a owner of a unit just outside the fruit market site even before rumours started. He told me BCC were looking to compulsory purchase his unit & I guess many others In a bid to redevelop that area as they were looking to put top end type flat/suites in the Totterdown area which would be overlooking that industrial estate so changing that area to more aesthetic looking modern stadia/leisure/retail/hotels would be very much on the agenda of bcc I would think long way to go but lets hope it happens UTG So how does a compulsory purchase order work when it comes to land values, plus surely that's BCC buying the land direct not a third party? Can anybody honestly see a state of the art football stadium having market stalls built into it!
|
|
|
Post by piratesquarters on Aug 6, 2019 11:23:37 GMT
FFS, it was a joke. We don't actually have a General Accounting section. Who said accountants have no sense of humour.
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 6, 2019 11:35:05 GMT
Speaking to a owner of a unit just outside the fruit market site even before rumours started. He told me BCC were looking to compulsory purchase his unit & I guess many others In a bid to redevelop that area as they were looking to put top end type flat/suites in the Totterdown area which would be overlooking that industrial estate so changing that area to more aesthetic looking modern stadia/leisure/retail/hotels would be very much on the agenda of bcc I would think long way to go but lets hope it happens UTG So how does a compulsory purchase order work when it comes to land values, plus surely that's BCC buying the land direct not a third party? Can anybody honestly see a state of the art football stadium having market stalls built into it! I believe the New Spurs stadium is built on some land that had a Compulsory Purchase order on it
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 11:39:04 GMT
For Hinkley Point C, some of the land around the site was bought by EDF through a compulsory purchase order
|
|
|
Post by philbemmygas on Aug 6, 2019 11:41:01 GMT
DD seems quite a handful. Suits you Sir fnarr fnarr
|
|
|
Post by dragonfly on Aug 6, 2019 11:50:45 GMT
Is the pub referred to as the Thunderbolt related to the 1953 film "The Titfield Thunderbolt"?. There are two scenes in the film from a platform at Temple Meads with Totterdown in the background.
|
|
|
Post by CheshireGas on Aug 6, 2019 11:51:18 GMT
Smart Git I worked on the Halifax/Bank of Scotland takeover by Lloyds and there was little or no DD there!! That's because (as City rumours have it) that Lloyds were told to buy it by Gordon Brown over after dinner drinks.....
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 11:54:23 GMT
Is the pub referred to as the Thunderbolt related to the 1953 film "The Titfield Thunderbolt"?. There are two scenes in the film from a platform at Temple Meads with Totterdown in the background. Maybe but it used to be called the Turnpike. Could have previously been the Thunderbolt i guess. I think the name is more a reference to the style of music the pub now has performances of.
|
|
|
Post by Westy on Aug 6, 2019 11:56:27 GMT
Is the pub referred to as the Thunderbolt related to the 1953 film "The Titfield Thunderbolt"?. There are two scenes in the film from a platform at Temple Meads with Totterdown in the background. Interesting but of history from the TB's website (that doesn't actually answer your question sorry! Thought it was cool to know though!) www.thethunderbolt.net/locationandcontactAround 1826 T.L.S. Rowbotham painted a watercolour: View from the Bath Road through the Brislington Turnpike. There is a small cluster of buildings on Totterdown, whilst below the wide carriageway dominates the picture as it follows the curve of the river in an extravagant sweep. In a similar way the history of Totterdown seems dominated by roads. One of its earliest mentions is that in 1642, at the time of the Civil War, a small fort or earthwork known as a sconce was built there 'to command the southern road'. A hundred years later, in 1748, a new Turnpike Act came into force and gates were erected all around the city, so people using the road had to pay tolls. This so enraged the Somerset country people that they marched in protest against the Totterdown gate and began smashing it down. A force headed by the Sheriffs with officers, constables, several Turnpike commissioners and a party of sailors armed with staves arrived on the scene before the demolition was completed and drove them off, wounding some and taking about 30 prisoner. The name of the Turnpike Inn, the Victorian Gothic Grade II listed building on the Bath Road, is a reminder of those times. Almost another century passed and the trustees of the Bristol turnpikes decided to eradicate the steep gradient below Totterdown. The hill had been a constant cause of complaints from coachmen and was also prone to subsidence. The problem was resolved by digging a very deep cutting near the junction of the Bath and Wells Roads. Tolls on foot passengers and cattle were dropped in 1852 and in June 1863 the unpopular tolls were completely abolished. The Finger Post shown above is known as The Three Lamps and marks the junction of the Bath and Wells roads. Can't find a decent copy of that painting apart from this one www.jasna.org/persuasions/on-line/vol30no2/images/birchall-bath-road.jpgAnd for any one who's interested, that whole article is even more long winded than anything I can type, has a few other paintings of his of Bristol, but I haven't the heart to read so much Jane Austen history to realise what relevance they have to the article! www.jasna.org/persuasions/on-line/vol30no2/birchall.html?Now you can see how my mind goes off on tangents 😂 And... Breath 😉 I'll shut up now!
|
|
Marshy
Proper Gas
Posts: 14,393
|
Post by Marshy on Aug 6, 2019 12:02:48 GMT
Is the pub referred to as the Thunderbolt related to the 1953 film "The Titfield Thunderbolt"?. There are two scenes in the film from a platform at Temple Meads with Totterdown in the background. Interesting but of history from the TB's website (that doesn't actually answer your question sorry! Thought it was cool to know though!) www.thethunderbolt.net/locationandcontactAround 1826 T.L.S. Rowbotham painted a watercolour: View from the Bath Road through the Brislington Turnpike. There is a small cluster of buildings on Totterdown, whilst below the wide carriageway dominates the picture as it follows the curve of the river in an extravagant sweep. In a similar way the history of Totterdown seems dominated by roads. One of its earliest mentions is that in 1642, at the time of the Civil War, a small fort or earthwork known as a sconce was built there 'to command the southern road'. A hundred years later, in 1748, a new Turnpike Act came into force and gates were erected all around the city, so people using the road had to pay tolls. This so enraged the Somerset country people that they marched in protest against the Totterdown gate and began smashing it down. A force headed by the Sheriffs with officers, constables, several Turnpike commissioners and a party of sailors armed with staves arrived on the scene before the demolition was completed and drove them off, wounding some and taking about 30 prisoner. The name of the Turnpike Inn, the Victorian Gothic Grade II listed building on the Bath Road, is a reminder of those times. Almost another century passed and the trustees of the Bristol turnpikes decided to eradicate the steep gradient below Totterdown. The hill had been a constant cause of complaints from coachmen and was also prone to subsidence. The problem was resolved by digging a very deep cutting near the junction of the Bath and Wells Roads. Tolls on foot passengers and cattle were dropped in 1852 and in June 1863 the unpopular tolls were completely abolished. The Finger Post shown above is known as The Three Lamps and marks the junction of the Bath and Wells roads. Can't find a decent copy of that painting apart from this one www.jasna.org/persuasions/on-line/vol30no2/images/birchall-bath-road.jpg:Deep: I remember Casey Jones, but that was the Cannonball Express. I hope this helps?
|
|
|
Post by cj on Aug 6, 2019 12:02:57 GMT
I reckon the BCC are the 3rd party. I reckon they want a joint venture for their music venue as its pretty darn close to where they want their misic venue by Temple Meads. Going halves with them will save them money and save us money. Its close to the M32, train station, coming from Bath or even the M5 via A38 or A370. Perfect really. Just an opinion.
|
|
|
Post by CheshireGas on Aug 6, 2019 12:09:47 GMT
Didn't RBS buy ING on a whim, to scupper Barclay's who were going to buy ING. RBS concluded that Barclay's had completed DD, so the deal must have been ok. RBS then spent 4 billion on a pile of rubbish? Rumour has it that the RBS DD on ING comprised of a single A4 sheet of paper ! That is absolute tripe ... total nonsense. For one thing it was ABN AMRO and there was a full time due diligence team who advised Sir Fred to leave it well alone. His ego would not allow him to lose out to Barclays and he over ruled the report. How do I know ? I was in the room the day he did it ! That's all very true. The big issue was that Barclays offered shares for ABN which was actually a very well rated and highly respected bank at the time and set a fair value price. Fred the Shred was so set on getting it all costs to meet his European/Global Bank dream he offered cash well over its value, hence the team's recommendation to leave well alone.. As they say the rest is history. It's also true that Lloyds should never have bought Bank of Scotland. Lloyds I believe was AAA rated at the time. HBOS was a basket case and many Banks had stopped going into their deals because they were so slack. Gordon Brown however would not let a Scottish Bank fail so he basically compelled Lloyds to back it. Interesting note is that if Scotland had been independent and the UK not been there to bail it out the collapse of RBS and HBOS could have caused the failure of the country or at the least a deep recession that would have lasted a generation . A point conveniently ignored by Nationalists especially Nicola Cranky. (apologies to my Scots friends!)
|
|
|
Post by scoobydoogas on Aug 6, 2019 12:12:53 GMT
Fruit market stays but within the concourses. I would say that means a healthier meal deal on match days but we know that wouldn't work under the 'dangerous fruit & veg act' If you can't come in with a weetabix you have no chance with a melon Given some of the people I stand by in the Blackthorn I think the melons have already made it in.
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2019 12:13:12 GMT
I reckon the BCC are the 3rd party. I reckon they want a joint venture for their music venue as its pretty darn close to where they want their misic venue by Temple Meads. Going halves with them will save them money and save us money. Its close to the M32, train station, coming from Bath or even the M5 via A38 or A370. Perfect really. Just an opinion. I can't see Marvin wanting to upset YSL?
|
|
|
Post by gasheadontour on Aug 6, 2019 12:18:51 GMT
I believe the New Spurs stadium is built on some land that had a Compulsory Purchase order on it Chelsea and Brentford too. BBC council would have to vote in favour of a Compulsory Purchase Order... and they would need to see some outline plans before doing so... which is perhaps what WAQ was hinting at.
If a lot of new housing is planned in the area then the council would want to see some local provision for a gym, creche etc. which of course a new stadium could provide.
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Aug 6, 2019 12:26:26 GMT
The latest form the BP: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-fruit-market-shareholder-responds-3179602One of the major shareholders of the Bristol wholesale fruit market has denied the inner city site is set to be sold to Bristol Rovers to develop into a new stadium. Rovers president Wael Al-Qadi spoke to BBC Radio Bristol 45 minutes before kick-off at Bloomfield Road on Saturday and stated a number of locations are being considered to build a new football stadium but the area in central Bristol just north of the River Avon, between Arnos Vale and Saint Philip's, was the club's No1 option. Bristol Rovers fans have been craving a new stadium for more than a decade, having played at the Mem since 1996, and delivering a ground was one of the promises Al-Qadi made when his family purchased the club in February 2016. What Wael Al-Qadi has said about Bristol Rovers' new stadium and what has actually happened Mr Al-Qadi said: "We have identified one site, along with others, we are very interested in. We have options but one of the sites is the site at the fruit market - we are very interested in that site." In the same interview he confirmed the club are still "hoping" to have the new stadium built within the next two years. He said: "Two years to go from now that is still hopefully our aim and our target." The fruit market is owned by Total Produce, Fresca Group, Arthur David & Company and remains listed as so in the Land Registry. Total Produce regional director Nick Matthews discussed the latest developments on BBC Radio Bristol on Tuesday morning following the comments from the Rovers president. Mr Matthews said: "It was a bit of a surprise to me as well to be honest. "The only reason I responded to the tweet put out by BBC Radio Bristol was to put people right. "We have offers for the fruit market on a regular basis, we had one recently but on behalf of Total Produce we declined the offer.
"We are not the only shareholder but we are a major shareholder in the market. Our view on things is we are happy where we are. We have got no desire to move. We have got no need to move.However Mr Matthews did not close the door on the possibility of the fruit market site in St Phillips Marsh being sold altogether but he made it clear it was unlikely. He said: "The site where we are works for us currently so unless someone comes along and makes us and offer we can't refuse we will be sticking where we are." One thing Mr Matthews was adamant about was the two year time line to have a stadium built at the fruit market site set out by Mr Al-Qadi is unrealistic. Mr Matthews said: "With several shareholders involved it could take two to three years to find the right place to move to and then build a new fruit market, and then only when we have moved to a new fruit market and left the old one empty could somebody demolish it and even start to think about building a new stadium. "To say they are going to be on our site in two years is fantasy really.
|
|
|
Post by tomylil on Aug 6, 2019 12:29:25 GMT
Speaking to a owner of a unit just outside the fruit market site even before rumours started. He told me BCC were looking to compulsory purchase his unit & I guess many others In a bid to redevelop that area as they were looking to put top end type flat/suites in the Totterdown area which would be overlooking that industrial estate so changing that area to more aesthetic looking modern stadia/leisure/retail/hotels would be very much on the agenda of bcc I would think long way to go but lets hope it happens UTG When was the last time the council used a CPO ? Purchasers of top end flats would not want to be situated next to a football stadium. The council would also need to redirect train tracks I believe and also presumably all the affected businesses ? This being the council that hasn't got a pot to water in so would seek to use a CPO as an enabler to encourage private investment. Trouble being everything else described above makes money so is possibly attractive to investors, a stadium won't deliver the returns expected by a commercially minded investor. What is likely therefore is that if the council has the minerals to use a CPO then it is obliged to deliver the best commercial deal for the ratepayers of Bristol and that does not mean a cut price deal to enable a football stadium that nimby's and greens could easily prove to an impartial inspector is not needed. A 10,000 seater arena was booted out because of imfrastructure issues even though the majority of Bristoliams wanted it. The notion that something twice the size, with presumably twice the traffic impact will be countenanced doesn't sound right to me i'm afraid. Oh, and I would imagine that an awful lot of the land around the market have contamination issues that would make any alternative use cost prohibitive.
|
|
|
Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 6, 2019 12:29:49 GMT
|
|