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Post by wertongas on Sept 12, 2023 14:26:13 GMT
Well that is now 725 pages on a stadium that doesn't exist and now looks very like it never will. We are Bristol Rovers we are amazing.
There are some positives though, we bid a million pounds for a player, unfortunately though staff at the club could't cope with reaching these giddy hight's of the transfer market and we cocked -up. Also for the first time in most of our histories of supporting the club, a new decent size stand is being built . So things are getting better, we are growing stronger every day.
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Post by wertongas on Sept 12, 2023 14:26:57 GMT
Sorry 726 pages !
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 12, 2023 14:35:44 GMT
This situation has all the making of a Mexican standoff Are you sure they play rugby in Mexico? Ranked 49th in the World |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 12, 2023 14:47:35 GMT
Well that is now 725 pages on a stadium that doesn't exist and now looks very like it never will. We are Bristol Rovers we are amazing. There are some positives though, we bid a million pounds for a player, unfortunately though staff at the cub could't cope with reaching these giddy hight's of the transfer market and we cocked -up. Also for the first time in most of our histories of supporting the club, a new decent size stand is being built . So things are getting better, we are growing stronger every day. And at least with this stadium failure we didn’t get to see any plans like previous failed attempts. Another plus 👍😀 |
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Post by oviedista on Sept 12, 2023 14:51:02 GMT
For me if this new stadium idea is done I'm pretty much done with new stadium plans. The FM is the best option we will ever have for a stadium with potential for good transport links and some kind of organic surroundings. Most other options now are going to be Reading like and car reliant and I'd rather stay at the Mem than have that.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 12, 2023 14:56:00 GMT
You've been praising Wrexham and saying they will pass us and a lot of other clubs. Didn't they make the same mistake as we did on transfer deadline day?? The new owners were not in charge when we applied for planning with the new stand, so I'm not sure how that is their fault?? We don't know what's happening with the stadium, but if it's not looking good for the club, should they just sign it to get it done?? Like I said on the other thread, moan in a year or two, they have not had time to make any changes yet. Hopefully we have finance to buy our own land long term and build our own facilities. Agreeing leasing terms was always going to be a problem. They were never going to just gift it to us. Wael said before that the fruit market was number 1, but they were looking into other options. Hopefully one of those other options, is now more appealing. In the past, finance for another option may have been a problem. I was in Wrexham in May, one huge gaping hole behind one of the goals where their stand used to be, looking at the efl highlights nothing has happened, still only three sides, I believe Wrexham are getting it built for free under the guise of the Welsh government regeneration fund, its a whole new board game running a football club to being top Holywood actors and the gas with middle Eastern businessmen, I wonder if their stand will ever get built seeing the Welsh government is involved, they bought Cardiff Airport and the airport is losing money everyday with very few flights a day. I thought they were just funding the infrastructure around the ground? Work started in June: www.goal.com/en-gb/news/wrexham-kop-stand-racecourse-ground-ryan-reynolds-rob-mcelhenney/blt94d595c40b3ac3ba |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 12, 2023 15:00:43 GMT
Form today's BP:
Longer term, a redevelopment of the Memorial Stadium appears the most likely option going forward for Rovers,
Who's feeding them this info?
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Post by yattongas on Sept 12, 2023 15:04:30 GMT
Form today's BP: Longer term, a redevelopment of the Memorial Stadium appears the most likely option going forward for Rovers, Who's feeding them this info? Buckle & Hamer |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Sept 12, 2023 15:07:20 GMT
Form today's BP: Longer term, a redevelopment of the Memorial Stadium appears the most likely option going forward for Rovers,Who's feeding them this info? Buckle & Hamer No S*** Sherlock |
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Post by pirate on Sept 12, 2023 15:09:31 GMT
How hollow do these words below now seem from our glorious co-owner Wael after being informed there was actually no agreement in place for the size of the stadium, the capacity of the stadium, the area of the site it would take up, the cost of it all and how it will be funded, plus how the revenue share would work. Extraordinarily unbelievable and brazen comments in the circumstances. Then there is the moan about criticism and fans saying his time at Rovers won't have been a success without a new stadium that is fit for purpose, despite himself previously commenting that "this football club requires and needs a new stadium"..."If we want to succeed, a new stadium has to happen. A new stadium has to be built."Quite extraordinary. 😳 |
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Post by bambergashead on Sept 12, 2023 15:17:01 GMT
How hollow do these words below now seem from our glorious co-owner Wael after being informed there was actually no agreement in place for the size of the stadium, the capacity of the stadium, the area of the site it would take up, the cost of it all and how it will be funded, plus how the revenue share would work. Extraordinarily unbelievable and brazen comments in the circumstances. Then there is the moan about criticism and fans saying his time at Rovers won't have been a success without a new stadium that is fit for purpose, despite himself previously commenting that "this football club requires and needs a new stadium"..."If we want to succeed, a new stadium has to happen. A new stadium has to be built."Quite extraordinary. 😳 Maybe... just maybe the Post leak is a smokescreen for something better... (he said , hopefully!) |
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Post by pirate on Sept 12, 2023 15:26:01 GMT
How hollow do these words below now seem from our glorious co-owner Wael after being informed there was actually no agreement in place for the size of the stadium, the capacity of the stadium, the area of the site it would take up, the cost of it all and how it will be funded, plus how the revenue share would work. Extraordinarily unbelievable and brazen comments in the circumstances. Then there is the moan about criticism and fans saying his time at Rovers won't have been a success without a new stadium that is fit for purpose, despite himself previously commenting that "this football club requires and needs a new stadium"..."If we want to succeed, a new stadium has to happen. A new stadium has to be built."Quite extraordinary. 😳 Maybe... just maybe the Post leak is a smokescreen for something better... (he said , hopefully!) Seems rather unlikely considering we have spent years negotiating and haven't even come up with an agreement in place for the size of the stadium, the capacity of the stadium, the area of the site it would take up, the cost of it all and how it will be funded, plus how the revenue share would've worked. I'm personally struggling to be hopeful about anything to do with this latest farce. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Sept 12, 2023 15:26:18 GMT
Wael doesn't deserve the level of disrespect he gets. Personally don't think the FM is dead in the water its probably at a crucial stage of financial negotiation and we are trying to get some leverage using media outlets to get a better position. The new shareholders are experts in this field hence why Wael has got them on board to try and get a stadium over the line. Until the club make a statement saying its off and are exploring other options I still believe it has a chance. Playing devils advocate have we found a better option? Yes |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Sept 12, 2023 15:28:49 GMT
Wael doesn't deserve the level of disrespect he gets. Personally don't think the FM is dead in the water its probably at a crucial stage of financial negotiation and we are trying to get some leverage using media outlets to get a better position. The new shareholders are experts in this field hence why Wael has got them on board to try and get a stadium over the line. Until the club make a statement saying its off and are exploring other options I still believe it has a chance. Playing devils advocate have we found a better option? Yes Redeveloping the Mem with 4 temporary stands probably. |
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Post by bambergashead on Sept 12, 2023 15:31:58 GMT
Maybe... just maybe the Post leak is a smokescreen for something better... (he said , hopefully!) Seems rather unlikely considering we have spent years negotiating and haven't even come up with an agreement in place for the size of the stadium, the capacity of the stadium, the area of the site it would take up, the cost of it all and how it will be funded, plus how the revenue share would've worked. I'm personally struggling to be hopeful about anything to do with this latest farce. Assuming all of that is true of course. |
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 12, 2023 15:33:42 GMT
[/quote]Maybe... just maybe the Post leak is a smokescreen for something better... (he said , hopefully!)[/quote]
No chance.
Let's be honest, that FM site was always going to be a stretch. We clearly are not a serious contender for a plot. The developers hold the aces and will make as much money as they can from prime land.
A 3rd rate footy club with foreign owners trying to get in on the cheap isn't as safe a bet as residential or commercial. We could go bust at any time and the land sits there and rots.
If these amigos are serious about taking the club forward and releasing potential, buy some land and start the process. Or drive a deal with BCC/SGC to redevelop some old site for mutual benefit.
There's plenty of sports pitches around Bristol that could be developed on and loads of land too. Especially along the m32 and a4174.
Every single project has had some caveat or condition which in hindsight made it risky.
Who in honesty really thought this latest scheme was live?
Lastly, any of the previous owners could have improved the Mem and they've even failed to do that. It's a ramshackle embarrassment of a football ground and all of them should be ashamed at letting it fall behind. It doesn't take huge investment to keep it semi-modern and acceptable.
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 12, 2023 15:34:14 GMT
Wael doesn't deserve the level of disrespect he gets. Personally don't think the FM is dead in the water its probably at a crucial stage of financial negotiation and we are trying to get some leverage using media outlets to get a better position. The new shareholders are experts in this field hence why Wael has got them on board to try and get a stadium over the line. Until the club make a statement saying its off and are exploring other options I still believe it has a chance. Playing devils advocate have we found a better option? Yes Care to share? I'm hoping you are right but if we demand more from the negative posters then we also need more from the positive ones too. Happy to have a PM, all in confidence. |
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Post by percy on Sept 12, 2023 15:34:41 GMT
Reading the old stories posted on the south stand thread, the biggest issue (and why Mem redev has been called a non-starter) will be the planning around any added facilities.
If there are bars, restaurant, gym or the like, the restrictions on time it can be open and used may scupper its value.
Pirate - why are you convinced the post story is 1) accurate and 2) it will all be Rovers fault?
We can assume, and history says its a good guess, but do you know more or are you just theorising?
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Post by pirate on Sept 12, 2023 15:41:49 GMT
Reading the old stories posted on the south stand thread, the biggest issue (and why Mem redev has been called a non-starter) will be the planning around any added facilities. If there are bars, restaurant, gym or the like, the restrictions on time it can be open and used may scupper its value. Pirate - why are you convinced the post story is 1) accurate and 2) it will all be Rovers fault? We can assume, and history says its a good guess, but do you know more or are you just theorising? The football club have had over 24 hours to refute the claims made in the press and as the silence is deafening we can only presume the article is accurate. |
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Post by percy on Sept 12, 2023 15:53:25 GMT
Reading the old stories posted on the south stand thread, the biggest issue (and why Mem redev has been called a non-starter) will be the planning around any added facilities. If there are bars, restaurant, gym or the like, the restrictions on time it can be open and used may scupper its value. Pirate - why are you convinced the post story is 1) accurate and 2) it will all be Rovers fault? We can assume, and history says its a good guess, but do you know more or are you just theorising? The football club have had over 24 hours to refute the claims made in the press and as the silence is deafening we can only presume the article is accurate. And 2) Maybe they were stringing us along as BCC insisted we were involved. A million reasons they could have collapsed. |
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