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Post by wallywalters on Jul 10, 2022 18:33:47 GMT
Surely there must be somebody who knows someone who knows something about what is going on with the FM site? Had a pint with someone on the clubs payroll today saying that it isn't happening due to PP. Personally I don't believe this for a minute as I'm sure someone at the club would keep us updated and rule out the FM if this was the case, rather than let fans wait in false hope. Be a difficult press release for the club to do if true. 3 more years wasted with the fans given pretty much zero information only snippets from the local press. I’d have thought they would like to have something else lined up to string us along with if bad news breaks re the fruit market. |
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Post by Gassy on Jul 10, 2022 19:32:10 GMT
I'd be surprised considering no plans have actually been submitted
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 10, 2022 19:44:36 GMT
It's been very vague from the start, we may be interested in building a stadium on a piece of land someone else may or may not buy!
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Post by singupgas on Jul 10, 2022 20:57:55 GMT
Can't fault the club at all of late, but the not knowing about the stadium situation is annoying.
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Post by Goose on Jul 10, 2022 21:08:09 GMT
It's like a double edged sword...
Not knowing is painful as hell, but at least it stops rumours etc like we had previously
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 10, 2022 22:23:58 GMT
Surely there must be somebody who knows someone who knows something about what is going on with the FM site? Had a pint with someone on the clubs payroll today saying that it isn't happening due to PP. Personally I don't believe this for a minute as I'm sure someone at the club would keep us updated and rule out the FM if this was the case, rather than let fans wait in false hope. Unless they are very high up and on the board, I doubt they would know what was happening. Expect only a select few are involved in talks. When wael mentioned the fruit market, he said it was the preferred option, but they were looking into others. Hopefully they continued to look into a plan B and C. If only to give us more power, when negotiating terms of any potential lease. |
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Post by RD on Jul 11, 2022 4:59:51 GMT
It's like a double edged sword... Not knowing is painful as hell, but at least it stops rumours etc like we had previously Haha, he says on a 577 page thread based pretty much entirely on rumours 😁 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 11, 2022 7:29:25 GMT
Had a pint with someone on the clubs payroll today saying that it isn't happening due to PP. Personally I don't believe this for a minute as I'm sure someone at the club would keep us updated and rule out the FM if this was the case, rather than let fans wait in false hope. Unless they are very high up and on the board, I doubt they would know what was happening. Expect only a select few are involved in talks. When wael mentioned the fruit market, he said it was the preferred option, but they were looking into others. Hopefully they continued to look into a plan B and C. If only to give us more power, when negotiating terms of any potential lease. We still have all the power either we agree the lease or we don't, hopefully, by now the club knows if the figures stack up, assuming they ever did given the total silence from the club. I assume TG was equally silent on any stadium plans in his recent interview, as otherwise somebody will have posted what he said by now. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 11, 2022 8:42:09 GMT
Unless they are very high up and on the board, I doubt they would know what was happening. Expect only a select few are involved in talks. When wael mentioned the fruit market, he said it was the preferred option, but they were looking into others. Hopefully they continued to look into a plan B and C. If only to give us more power, when negotiating terms of any potential lease. We still have all the power either we agree the lease or we don't, hopefully, by now the club knows if the figures stack up, assuming they ever did given the total silence from the club. I assume TG was equally silent on any stadium plans in his recent interview, as otherwise somebody will have posted what he said by now. Depends if they have a plan B and C without a stadium. Expect they will make more money, if they put something else there, if they are giving away rights. We don't know anything about it really, which is why, I hope will continued looking into others options as well. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 11, 2022 9:07:56 GMT
We still have all the power either we agree the lease or we don't, hopefully, by now the club knows if the figures stack up, assuming they ever did given the total silence from the club. I assume TG was equally silent on any stadium plans in his recent interview, as otherwise somebody will have posted what he said by now. Depends if they have a plan B and C without a stadium. Expect they will make more money, if they put something else there, if they are giving away rights. We don't know anything about it really, which is why, I hope will continued looking into others options as well. There must be some reason a company with no apparent previous links to Rovers, or building sports stadiums generally, apparently now wants to include a stadium at the FM, the obvious one seems to be it's attractive/being encouraged in some way to them, if not, then why bother when they could just build flats & offices etc as they are already building in Nottingham. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 11, 2022 9:35:51 GMT
Depends if they have a plan B and C without a stadium. Expect they will make more money, if they put something else there, if they are giving away rights. We don't know anything about it really, which is why, I hope will continued looking into others options as well. There must be some reason a company with no apparent previous links to Rovers, or building sports stadiums generally, apparently now wants to include a stadium at the FM, the obvious one seems to be it's attractive/being encouraged in some way to them, if not, then why bother when they could just build flats & offices etc as they are already building in Nottingham. You would think that there is a reason, but it doesn't mean that is their only option. They might have known how desperate we are and thought we would pay over the odds and give them the Mem land. I doubt they would have planned the scheme without having a plan B though. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 11, 2022 9:36:01 GMT
Depends if they have a plan B and C without a stadium. Expect they will make more money, if they put something else there, if they are giving away rights. We don't know anything about it really, which is why, I hope will continued looking into others options as well. There must be some reason a company with no apparent previous links to Rovers, or building sports stadiums generally, apparently now wants to include a stadium at the FM, the obvious one seems to be it's attractive/being encouraged in some way to them, if not, then why bother when they could just build flats & offices etc as they are already building in Nottingham. You would think that there is a reason, but it doesn't mean that is their only option. They might have known how desperate we are and thought we would pay over the odds and give them the Mem land. I doubt they would have planned the scheme without having a plan B though. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 11, 2022 10:58:07 GMT
There must be some reason a company with no apparent previous links to Rovers, or building sports stadiums generally, apparently now wants to include a stadium at the FM, the obvious one seems to be it's attractive/being encouraged in some way to them, if not, then why bother when they could just build flats & offices etc as they are already building in Nottingham. You would think that there is a reason, but it doesn't mean that is their only option. They might have known how desperate we are and thought we would pay over the odds and give them the Mem land. I doubt they would have planned the scheme without having a plan B though. It's hard to believe a property developer planned a multi million pound development solely on the basis that we might be desperate and so let them have the Mem on the cheap. There's got to be another reason (s) they've chosen to include a stadium, assuming they ever did. |
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Post by axegas on Jul 11, 2022 11:01:32 GMT
I'm thinking no news is good news on the exclusivity agreement. Last time the agreement expired, Conygar were very quick to get a statement up to confirm that the exclusivity agreement had been extended by another 5 weeks.
If the agreement had been extended again, they would have been similarly as quick and if it had lapsed with no deal agreed, we may have already heard something too.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 11, 2022 11:09:54 GMT
You would think that there is a reason, but it doesn't mean that is their only option. They might have known how desperate we are and thought we would pay over the odds and give them the Mem land. I doubt they would have planned the scheme without having a plan B though. It's hard to believe a property developer planned a multi million pound development solely on the basis that we might be desperate and so let them have the Mem on the cheap. There's got to be another reason (s) they've chosen to include a stadium, assuming they ever did. Did I say that?? I said they will have a plan B, so they wouldn't have planned it solely for those reasons. But if they can get us involved and make a bit of extra money, then why not. They won't be doing it for nothing. We are both just guessing. But it makes business sense for both parties to have other options. As you said why plan a multi million pound project around a stadium, when we could turn around and say we don't want it under those terms. We could change our minds for a better site at any time. A lot of times companies draw up more than one plan. Especially on a project of this size. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 11, 2022 11:50:15 GMT
It's hard to believe a property developer planned a multi million pound development solely on the basis that we might be desperate and so let them have the Mem on the cheap. There's got to be another reason (s) they've chosen to include a stadium, assuming they ever did. Did I say that?? I said they will have a plan B, so they wouldn't have planned it solely for those reasons. But if they can get us involved and make a bit of extra money, then why not. They won't be doing it for nothing. We are both just guessing. But it makes business sense for both parties to have other options. As you said why plan a multi million pound project around a stadium, when we could turn around and say we don't want it under those terms. We could change our minds for a better site at any time. A lot of times companies draw up more than one plan. Especially on a project of this size. I was referring to your suggested Plan A, if BCC are insisting or making it financially attractive then there may not be a viable Plan B. |
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Post by baggins on Jul 11, 2022 12:00:51 GMT
It'll happen when it happens.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 11, 2022 13:17:47 GMT
Sam frost today:
A common question, Chris.
The developer's (Conygar) period of exclusivity with Wholesale Fruit Centre Ltd expired on July 5 .
When this ended, we asked the company for a comment but it said it is not yet in a position to do so and it will comment in due course.
We expect an announcement soon that the sale of the site has been completed.
Is the last sentence guesswork, or does you know more that he can't say??
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Post by RD on Jul 11, 2022 13:42:44 GMT
Sam frost today: A common question, Chris. The developer's (Conygar) period of exclusivity with Wholesale Fruit Centre Ltd expired on July 5 . When this ended, we asked the company for a comment but it said it is not yet in a position to do so and it will comment in due course. We expect an announcement soon that the sale of the site has been completed. Is the last sentence guesswork, or does you know more that he can't say?? I would assume it was completed. Logically speaking, if they pulled out/it fell through, surely they would announce immediately (or pretty much so). The only logical reason for a delay in an announcement IMO is positive - i.e. waiting for something to be verified/checked etc (all of which would likely relate to the signing of something and therefore a deal having been struck). Of course even IF they have bought the land, that doesn't guarantee they'll opt to build a stadium with part of it. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 11, 2022 13:50:57 GMT
I'd be surprised considering no plans have actually been submitted With the Bristol Green Party having control over the planning committee stage i can't see any plans getting past them without a substancial ethical element to it |
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