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Post by baggins on Jul 26, 2022 12:21:53 GMT
Fairly sure it's been made perfectly clear redevelopment of the Mem isn't going to happen. And it's fairly clear that's there's no appetite to build a new football stadium in Bristol. So ideas on plan C anyone? Really? No appetite to build a new Stadium in Bristol? Where did you hear that?
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Post by kruger on Jul 26, 2022 12:29:57 GMT
And it's fairly clear that's there's no appetite to build a new football stadium in Bristol. So ideas on plan C anyone? Really? No appetite to build a new Stadium in Bristol? Where did you hear that? I'm also very interested to know the answer to this
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Post by darkbluegas on Jul 26, 2022 12:42:06 GMT
Really? No appetite to build a new Stadium in Bristol? Where did you hear that? I'm also very interested to know the answer to this I'd suggest the big football stadium shaped hole in Bristol maybe a clue. Seemingly every other comparable city and even a good few towns in the UK have managed to build something approaching a reasonable stadium be it for rugby, athletics or football, yet Bristol has just about refurbished one old ground. It's painfully apparent unless someone can make money out of us it isn't happening. UWE thought we'd provide them with a nice passive income until Wael had a flick through books. The original Friut Basket crowd thought they'd get the Mem cheap until Wael was handed the reigns entirely at the club. So here we are again, not one centimetre closer to a new stadium than we were in 1980 when the Stoke Gifford site was kicked into touch. So unless I've got the whole Father Christmas, fairies at the bottom of the garden thing wrong I think we need a serious plan C
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 26, 2022 13:00:51 GMT
I'm also very interested to know the answer to this I'd suggest the big football stadium shaped hole in Bristol maybe a clue. Seemingly every other comparable city and even a good few towns in the UK have managed to build something approaching a reasonable stadium be it for rugby, athletics or football, yet Bristol has just about refurbished one old ground. It's painfully apparent unless someone can make money out of us it isn't happening. UWE thought we'd provide them with a nice passive income until Wael had a flick through books. The original Friut Basket crowd thought they'd get the Mem cheap until Wael was handed the reigns entirely at the club. So here we are again, not one centimetre closer to a new stadium than we were in 1980 when the Stoke Gifford site was kicked into touch. So unless I've got the whole Father Christmas, fairies at the bottom of the garden thing wrong I think we need a serious plan C Do we know there is no Plan C? For sure, that is. As the saying goes, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. What is the alternative? A redeveloped Mem is going to be costly and I would argue make us no more financially competitive. Asthetically and comfort wise it would be great for the fans, but I can't see it making us any more money. Don't get me wrong, I'd be pleased that a decision was made and we started building even just one new stand, but Wael would have to pretty much gift it or it'll risk becoming a millstone around our necks. A new build would be a clean start and potentially bring in new backers to help finance the stadium. My preference was always somewhere along the A38/Ring Road corridor but if the Fruit Market is still viable, I can see the attraction in holding back until it is either agreed or definitely dead.
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Post by Quarters on Jul 26, 2022 13:42:37 GMT
I'm also very interested to know the answer to this I'd suggest the big football stadium shaped hole in Bristol maybe a clue. Seemingly every other comparable city and even a good few towns in the UK have managed to build something approaching a reasonable stadium be it for rugby, athletics or football, yet Bristol has just about refurbished one old ground. It's painfully apparent unless someone can make money out of us it isn't happening. UWE thought we'd provide them with a nice passive income until Wael had a flick through books. The original Friut Basket crowd thought they'd get the Mem cheap until Wael was handed the reigns entirely at the club. So here we are again, not one centimetre closer to a new stadium than we were in 1980 when the Stoke Gifford site was kicked into touch. So unless I've got the whole Father Christmas, fairies at the bottom of the garden thing wrong I think we need a serious plan C I would suggest one of the biggest opportunities missed was a development with the Arena at Filton. That would have answered many of the infrastructure issues given the transport requirements for the Arena. There was a rumour that neither parties thought of approaching the other on this, if true big own goal.
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Post by slimbridgegas on Jul 26, 2022 14:11:35 GMT
The Filton site is a no brainer….. somehow it’s the obvious place.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 26, 2022 14:12:11 GMT
I'd suggest the big football stadium shaped hole in Bristol maybe a clue. Seemingly every other comparable city and even a good few towns in the UK have managed to build something approaching a reasonable stadium be it for rugby, athletics or football, yet Bristol has just about refurbished one old ground. It's painfully apparent unless someone can make money out of us it isn't happening. UWE thought we'd provide them with a nice passive income until Wael had a flick through books. The original Friut Basket crowd thought they'd get the Mem cheap until Wael was handed the reigns entirely at the club. So here we are again, not one centimetre closer to a new stadium than we were in 1980 when the Stoke Gifford site was kicked into touch. So unless I've got the whole Father Christmas, fairies at the bottom of the garden thing wrong I think we need a serious plan C I would suggest one of the biggest opportunities missed was a development with the Arena at Filton. That would have answered many of the infrastructure issues given the transport requirements for the Arena. There was a rumour that neither parties thought of approaching the other on this, if true big own goal. Im not sure it would’ve worked on the same site anyway, an indoor arena and outdoor football stadium are two different beasts. However the adjacent wasteland which is now developed with warehouses, car garage, Village hotel and offices would’ve been ideal for a stadium.
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Post by baggins on Jul 26, 2022 15:00:00 GMT
593 pages of guessing. That's got to be a record surely?
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Post by calcio on Jul 26, 2022 15:05:17 GMT
I guess it is.
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Post by Quarters on Jul 26, 2022 16:26:44 GMT
I would suggest one of the biggest opportunities missed was a development with the Arena at Filton. That would have answered many of the infrastructure issues given the transport requirements for the Arena. There was a rumour that neither parties thought of approaching the other on this, if true big own goal. Im not sure it would’ve worked on the same site anyway, an indoor arena and outdoor football stadium are two different beasts. However the adjacent wasteland which is now developed with warehouses, car garage, Village hotel and offices would’ve been ideal for a stadium. What like Wembley with it's stadium and arena?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 26, 2022 16:56:26 GMT
I would suggest one of the biggest opportunities missed was a development with the Arena at Filton. That would have answered many of the infrastructure issues given the transport requirements for the Arena. There was a rumour that neither parties thought of approaching the other on this, if true big own goal. Im not sure it would’ve worked on the same site anyway, an indoor arena and outdoor football stadium are two different beasts. However the adjacent wasteland which is now developed with warehouses, car garage, Village hotel and offices would’ve been ideal for a stadium. What difference would it make if a football stadium was next to the Arena or on the other side of the A38, they'd both use the same car parking facilities and transport network. The fact we didn't enquire and the FM shows no signs of materialising does make you start to wonder if Wael has any real intentions of building a new stadium.
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Post by nsgas on Jul 26, 2022 17:15:47 GMT
It's 10 years since Rotherham moved to their new ground. Their old ground (Millmoor) was better than our current one.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 26, 2022 17:38:41 GMT
That’s a fair response 1981 but for three things: 1. No, the owners do not have to keep us informed about anything . But it’s good practice to do so and maintain a line of communication. You do not think they should, I do but I can accept that there is a difference. 2. I didn’t say, as you said in your last para, that “the owners have given you a script to post.” Of course it would be ridiculous and also inaccurate which was why I didn’t say it.Please read what I said which was “you’ve given our leaders the script about why nothing is happening and life at the Mem is going to be the new norm and we’d better get used to it.” It’s the opposite to what you accused me of and very different. I’m happy to be quoted on what I said, less so on something I didn’t say. 3. W ael, TG and David (?) have rarely spoken freely about the ground. Wael let something out on the opening day of the season in 2019 at Blackpool about the FM but there have been no communication since by anyone in a leadership capacity so to say what you did is completely untrue. UTG! 1. It's incredibly bad practice to do so and no other business would ever discuss an expansion plan with the general public without a sure contract in place. The only reason why we think we should be told anything is because its (a) a football club with a high public interest (b) we need a new stadium (c) we have been waiting for one and promised one for years by previous owners. From a business perspective, the rules of confidentiality and engagement remain the same. 2. Apologies, I misread it. 3. Wael has been asked by GT many times in radio interviews and hes always stated the position. TG as recently as last week said that Mem redevelopment wasnt an option (I also think he was asked this in the recent Gascast interview and didnt say anything). DB hasnt been here long enough yet I wouldnt think to give an opinion. My point was, they welcome direct questions from both media and fans, they are the ones to give the answers where they can, whether they are the answers you want to hear is a completely different matter. 1. I’m talking very general terms and of course regarding the detail you are right, no expectation about detail being revealed. But I suspect you knew what I meant by “maintaining a line of communication” in my original post, in general terms about the position re the ground. That would be good for everyone to know the broad position. And you’re right about why we think we should be told. Not sure what’s wrong with that though. 2. Thank you. Easily done! 3. Yes we have had the occasional response to questions as you say but it’s been very seldom. Wael has given nothing away and no one else has really been in a position to say anything either. Any response has been very reactive to whatever GT has asked. There has been no statement, nothing that has given a lead, been pro-active, given the position where we are. Given some of the open letters over the past 18 months over other aspects of the club, it’s not an impossible task to think something similar could have been written to keep the fans up to date with where we are on the ground. (No contractual, confidential stuff or anything that would compromise any progress of course!) And in a way from that we can probably draw our own conclusions. UTG! Edit: I’ve never considered that the Mem redevelopment was an option. WAQ has been fairly consistent about it not being an option which makes finding the land elsewhere even more important.
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Post by bobbyjones on Jul 26, 2022 17:44:12 GMT
Im not sure it would’ve worked on the same site anyway, an indoor arena and outdoor football stadium are two different beasts. However the adjacent wasteland which is now developed with warehouses, car garage, Village hotel and offices would’ve been ideal for a stadium. What difference would it make if a football stadium was next to the Arena or on the other side of the A38, they'd both use the same car parking facilities and transport network. The fact we didn't enquire and the FM shows no signs of materialising does make you start to wonder if Wael has any real intentions of building a new stadium. Wael has not got the money to afford a new stadium.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jul 26, 2022 17:47:53 GMT
The club have a master plan for a new stadium at 'THE QUARTERS' it will be gradually developed until we have an all singing, all dancing, super stadium. As for Filton, it did seem the obvious solution, the fact that no one seems to have explored the possibility is not encouraging.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 26, 2022 19:04:26 GMT
I’m sure Nick Higgs mentioned Filton years ago when the airport first closed and said it was a non-starter?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 26, 2022 19:05:13 GMT
What difference would it make if a football stadium was next to the Arena or on the other side of the A38, they'd both use the same car parking facilities and transport network. The fact we didn't enquire and the FM shows no signs of materialising does make you start to wonder if Wael has any real intentions of building a new stadium. Wael has not got the money to afford a new stadium. How would you know what money Wael's got, he's clearly wealthy enough to write off £3m p.a. so must have a few £m stashed away. Did you still think Wael is working undercover for Lansdown to destroy the club??
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Post by gretschgas on Jul 26, 2022 19:09:44 GMT
I’m sure Nick Higgs mentioned Filton years ago when the airport first closed and said it was a non-starter? Yeah, I'm sure it was him who said the ground was contaminated or something? Obviously not that much seeing all the developments going on in the area. Unless it was just someone on here starting that rumour. Someone definitely said it though!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 26, 2022 19:54:42 GMT
Latest from Sam Frost's Q&A:
"There were plenty of stadium-related ones (questions), as you'd expect. On that, no update to report this week, I'm afraid. We're still waiting on a statement from Conygar regarding the end of the exclusivity period for the fruit market."
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 26, 2022 20:03:40 GMT
‘The year is 2057, the Memorial Stadium has just had its capacity reduced for the 34th year in a row, meanwhile everyone is still waiting for the Conygar exclusivity period to end’
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