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Post by yattongas on Oct 6, 2022 16:31:32 GMT
Completely given up any hope that we’ll get a new stadium in my lifetime. Utterly depressing but after 40 odd yrs of letdowns I think it’s time to admit …. It ain’t happening lads. 🙁
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Post by trueblur4u on Oct 6, 2022 16:58:33 GMT
If Wael can't deliver Bristol Rovers a new stadium his ownership of the club will be considered a part letdown/failure. Wael promised the stadium and has not delivered or is ever likely to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2022 17:05:02 GMT
Not sure we have the council in our pockets like a certain Guernsey based entrepreneur now spending even more for his development.
Spend all you like chap you will still never get to the premiership!
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Post by gaschat on Oct 6, 2022 17:44:50 GMT
Not sure we have the council in our pockets like a certain Guernsey based entrepreneur now spending even more for his development. Spend all you like chap you will still never get to the premiership! Why are we still so obsessed with them? I thought this was supposed to be a thread about OUR new stadium!! Oh, we’re not getting one so let’s slag off someone else’s good fortune If we MUST obsess about what they are doing and we are not, simple answer SL has the money and ambition and therefore is doing it, Wael may have the ambition but most definitely doesn’t have the money. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2022 18:19:10 GMT
Not sure we have the council in our pockets like a certain Guernsey based entrepreneur now spending even more for his development. Spend all you like chap you will still never get to the premiership! Why are we still so obsessed with them? I thought this was supposed to be a thread about OUR new stadium!! Oh, we’re not getting one so let’s slag off someone else’s good fortune If we MUST obsess about what they are doing and we are not, simple answer SL has the money and ambition and therefore is doing it, Wael may have the ambition but most definitely doesn’t have the money.What's your source of info to suggest that's the case? Let's have some hard facts given you are so definite he doesn't have the money. Given he clearly seems capable of writing off £3m of debts p.a. whilst also financing £m's building The Quarters he seems to have plenty of financial backing from somewhere. |
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Post by justin blue on Oct 6, 2022 18:45:15 GMT
As has always been the case imo Rovers want a stadium, but want somebody else to build or finance it. That doesn’t mean it won’t get built it just means that somebody needs to think its a good enough investment or viable. If Weal had the means himself to build us a new stadium surely we would have one by now.
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Post by eric on Oct 6, 2022 18:45:43 GMT
If Wael can't deliver Bristol Rovers a new stadium his ownership of the club will be considered a part letdown/failure. Wael promised the stadium and has not delivered or is ever likely to. Did he ever actually promise or guarantee a stadium? I’ve heard him say plenty of times that we need a stadium and that he’s trying to make it happen but never heard the promise. I may have missed it so clarification would be helpful. Cheers. |
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Post by eric on Oct 6, 2022 18:51:28 GMT
As has always been the case imo Rovers want a stadium, but want somebody else to build or finance it. That doesn’t mean it won’t get built it just means that somebody needs to think its a good enough investment or viable. If Weal had the means himself to build us a new stadium surely we would have one by now. I’d imagine finding a viable piece of land that is both available, affordable and likely to be able to attain planning permission for a stadium is a bigger issue than funding the construction. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 6, 2022 18:53:58 GMT
As has always been the case imo Rovers want a stadium, but want somebody else to build or finance it. That doesn’t mean it won’t get built it just means that somebody needs to think its a good enough investment or viable. If Weal had the means himself to build us a new stadium surely we would have one by now. I’d imagine finding a viable piece of land that is both available, affordable and likely to be able to attain planning permission for a stadium is a bigger issue than funding the construction. The longer he waits the harder it gets surely? |
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Post by justin blue on Oct 6, 2022 18:57:49 GMT
As has always been the case imo Rovers want a stadium, but want somebody else to build or finance it. That doesn’t mean it won’t get built it just means that somebody needs to think its a good enough investment or viable. If Weal had the means himself to build us a new stadium surely we would have one by now. I’d imagine finding a viable piece of land that is both available, affordable and likely to be able to attain planning permission for a stadium is a bigger issue than funding the construction. I can only imagine. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2022 19:04:31 GMT
I’d imagine finding a viable piece of land that is both available, affordable and likely to be able to attain planning permission for a stadium is a bigger issue than funding the construction. The longer he waits the harder it gets surely? Not sure that's really the case, otherwise no football club would ever build a new stadium. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 6, 2022 19:09:20 GMT
The longer he waits the harder it gets surely? Not sure that's really the case, otherwise no football club would ever build a new stadium. Well it’s taken 40 yrs and we’ve identified about 3 (?) possible sites in Bristol . Can’t see us suddenly finding new ones can you ? |
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Post by gaschat on Oct 6, 2022 20:13:15 GMT
Why are we still so obsessed with them? I thought this was supposed to be a thread about OUR new stadium!! Oh, we’re not getting one so let’s slag off someone else’s good fortune If we MUST obsess about what they are doing and we are not, simple answer SL has the money and ambition and therefore is doing it, Wael may have the ambition but most definitely doesn’t have the money.What's your source of info to suggest that's the case? Let's have some hard facts given you are so definite he doesn't have the money. Given he clearly seems capable of writing off £3m of debts p.a. whilst also financing £m's building The Quarters he seems to have plenty of financial backing from somewhere. I think you are a tiny insignificant minority among gas who still have any faith about the mythical new stadium, which is always just over the horizon. So my source is common sense, the evidence of my own eyes, what’s been done to date and I suggest my understanding of our position is closer to the reality than yours. But that wasn’t the point I was making, I just think our obsession with them is unhealthy, unhelpful and unnecessary. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 6, 2022 20:14:31 GMT
Not sure that's really the case, otherwise no football club would ever build a new stadium. Well it’s taken 40 yrs and we’ve identified about 3 (?) possible sites in Bristol . Can’t see us suddenly finding new ones can you ? 3? Mangotsfield, Avonmouth, UWE, yea 3 sounds about right. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2022 21:02:08 GMT
What's your source of info to suggest that's the case? Let's have some hard facts given you are so definite he doesn't have the money. Given he clearly seems capable of writing off £3m of debts p.a. whilst also financing £m's building The Quarters he seems to have plenty of financial backing from somewhere. I think you are a tiny insignificant minority among gas who still have any faith about the mythical new stadium, which is always just over the horizon. So my source is common sense, the evidence of my own eyes, what’s been done to date and I suggest my understanding of our position is closer to the reality than yours. But that wasn’t the point I was making, I just think our obsession with them is unhealthy, unhelpful and unnecessary. Are you losing the plot or something, as you've lost me with this post. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2022 21:06:43 GMT
Not sure that's really the case, otherwise no football club would ever build a new stadium. Well it’s taken 40 yrs and we’ve identified about 3 (?) possible sites in Bristol . Can’t see us suddenly finding new ones can you ? We found the FM so we've no real idea what sites are potentially available. Whether anybody is still bothering to look is another matter. |
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Post by gaschat on Oct 6, 2022 21:10:55 GMT
I think you are a tiny insignificant minority among gas who still have any faith about the mythical new stadium, which is always just over the horizon. So my source is common sense, the evidence of my own eyes, what’s been done to date and I suggest my understanding of our position is closer to the reality than yours. But that wasn’t the point I was making, I just think our obsession with them is unhealthy, unhelpful and unnecessary. Are you losing the plot or something, as you've lost me with this post. I’m not surprised I’ve lost you, we are obviously on different planes of understanding, I understand we are not getting a new stadium because we don’t have the funds, you haven’t picked up on that…yet. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2022 22:10:28 GMT
Are you losing the plot or something, as you've lost me with this post. I’m not surprised I’ve lost you, we are obviously on different planes of understanding, I understand we are not getting a new stadium because we don’t have the funds, you haven’t picked up on that…yet. OK, I hope it's making you feel all the better for thinking that way 👍 |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 6, 2022 23:11:40 GMT
If Wael can't deliver Bristol Rovers a new stadium his ownership of the club will be considered a part letdown/failure. Wael promised the stadium and has not delivered or is ever likely to. Did he ever actually promise or guarantee a stadium? I’ve heard him say plenty of times that we need a stadium and that he’s trying to make it happen but never heard the promise. I may have missed it so clarification would be helpful. Cheers. To my mind he did. Iirc when interviewed on the takeover the broadcast went along the lines of ... Wael was asked about financing the new stadium that was planned at UWE he replied that financing the new stadium would “not be a problem” after saying that a new ground was needed and would be a priority. Now I guess that someone could interpret that as not promising or guaranteeing a new stadium. But since that time I have always thought that he did lots of things with that interview. He said the club needed a new stadium and said finance would not be a problem. Now that to my mind showed an intention to build a new stadium with funding nor being a problem. Now, if anyone from BRFC, or even Wael himself were to deny he ever promised a new stadium I would lose all trust or belief in him because to my mind he did promise a new stadium and only “weasel words” would try and get out of that interview in February 2016. Others may think differently. UTG! |
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Post by pirate on Oct 7, 2022 2:47:57 GMT
Did he ever actually promise or guarantee a stadium? I’ve heard him say plenty of times that we need a stadium and that he’s trying to make it happen but never heard the promise. I may have missed it so clarification would be helpful. Cheers. To my mind he did. Iirc when interviewed on the takeover the broadcast went along the lines of ... Wael was asked about financing the new stadium that was planned at UWE he replied that financing the new stadium would “not be a problem” after saying that a new ground was needed and would be a priority. Now I guess that someone could interpret that as not promising or guaranteeing a new stadium. But since that time I have always thought that he did lots of things with that interview. He said the club needed a new stadium and said finance would not be a problem. Now that to my mind showed an intention to build a new stadium with funding nor being a problem. Now, if anyone from BRFC, or even Wael himself were to deny he ever promised a new stadium I would lose all trust or belief in him because to my mind he did promise a new stadium and only “weasel words” would try and get out of that interview in February 2016. Others may think differently. UTG! Ah the famous 2016 lines of "This football club requires and needs a new stadium" and "If we want to succeed, a new stadium has to happen. A new stadium has to be built." We've been strung along for long enough. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-wael-al-qadi-said-3175112 |
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