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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 4, 2023 7:36:54 GMT
Why will they have to move quick, when all the options states is that they must have applied for pp by 31 March 2024 not obtained pp by that date. They've got at least another 6 months to go before they need to start worrying about applying for pp. Hopefully they'll confirm around that time if a stadium is still part of their plans. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a stadium is at the demand of Bristol council, not part of Conygar's plans as such. You're wrong, all the suggestions are that when Congyer releases their plans for the FM it will include a stadium. Whether BCC instigated the idea of a stadium at the FM or whether it was Congyer's own idea has never been clarified. |
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Post by phillistine on Jun 4, 2023 8:00:20 GMT
The reality is that Bristol has been behind when it comes to venues. Until fairly recently - the Grand Hotel was the largest which could cater for 250 guests at a business dinner - compared to over 2000 in Birmingham for example. Ashton Gate can seat over 800 now but it has the age old problem that it is in a poor location for transport links and hotel accomodation. A venue close to all transport links , with good parking and and a decent road infrastructure will be a great feather in the cap for the council - no matter what part they play in it.
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Post by playtowin on Jun 4, 2023 10:50:55 GMT
I would assume ,based upon the 9-10 month deadline currently. That we (Rovers) already have an outline design for a stadium . That will get tweaked and slotted into the initial planning application.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 4, 2023 11:08:06 GMT
Congyer have apparently already been in talks for 2½ years, you'd hope at some point they have drawn up their own plans for the site, hopefully in cooperation with Rovers.
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Post by Gasshole on Jun 4, 2023 11:14:38 GMT
I’ve been waiting 40 years, but I’m fairly sure this is the one. I’m usually right about these things
Up the Fruitihad.
Looking forward to the South Stand Roar for now.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 4, 2023 11:29:47 GMT
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to be really impressed when we get to see the stadium plans , think it’ll be 22k but expandable and it’s going to be the mutt’s nuts .
Have that da sh** !
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Post by poorblue on Jun 4, 2023 18:53:05 GMT
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to be really impressed when we get to see the stadium plans , think it’ll be 22k but expandable and it’s going to be the mutt’s nuts . Have that da sh** ! It's already been designed and approved as a 21000 all seater Just sitting on the shelve waiting for a site www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-40811022 |
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Post by playtowin on Jun 5, 2023 12:50:57 GMT
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to be really impressed when we get to see the stadium plans , think it’ll be 22k but expandable and it’s going to be the mutt’s nuts . Have that da sh** ! It's already been designed and approved as a 21000 all seater Just sitting on the shelve waiting for a site www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-40811022I would hope its a lot less bland than the UWE plans . |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 5, 2023 13:15:56 GMT
I’ve got a feeling we’re going to be really impressed when we get to see the stadium plans , think it’ll be 22k but expandable and it’s going to be the mutt’s nuts . Have that da sh** ! It's already been designed and approved as a 21000 all seater Just sitting on the shelve waiting for a site www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-40811022Down to the dimensions of the Fruit Market site it’ll have to be abit more creative than the UWE bowl. Plus that architectural style for stadiums is now quite dated. |
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Post by percy on Jun 5, 2023 13:37:18 GMT
I would hope its a lot less bland than the UWE plans . Genuine question, what would you like to see? I guess design will be lead by available space, potential to expand and (and most importantly) how to maximise revenue from the stadium and facilities |
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Post by axegas on Jun 5, 2023 14:55:06 GMT
I always thought the UWE design missed a trick because it was a large, out of town and easy to get to plot of land. Yet it's commercial potential was never set to be realised because the university demanded so much of it to be taken up by teaching space. Even the commercial units were things that revolved around UWE's priorities like a Creche, convenience store for students, Gym etc.
The FM design will be completely different because the developers will want to utilise as much land around the core stadium as possible due to the high land value. This should hopefully mean steeper stands and a better atmosphere as the stadium itself will be compressed onto as smaller space on the plot as the can get away with. However it's important that we still get things like we were due to get at UWE like sufficient hospitality and executive box facilities, modern supporters bar, club shop and museum. I suspect like UWE though, anything on the land beyond the stadium itself we'll have very little input into.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 5, 2023 15:01:29 GMT
I always thought the UWE design missed a trick because it was a large, out of town and easy to get to plot of land. Yet it's commercial potential was never set to be realised because the university demanded so much of it to be taken up by teaching space. Even the commercial units were things that revolved around UWE's priorities like a Creche, convenience store for students, Gym etc. The FM design will be completely different because the developers will want to utilise as much land around the core stadium as possible due to the high land value. This should hopefully mean steeper stands and a better atmosphere as the stadium itself will be compressed onto as smaller space on the plot as the can get away with. However it's important that we still get things like we were due to get at UWE like sufficient hospitality and executive box facilities, modern supporters bar, club shop and museum. I suspect like UWE though, anything on the land beyond the stadium itself we'll have very little input into. Then let’s hope there is a stadium in said plans. I feel many are getting miles ahead of themselves. |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 5, 2023 15:07:11 GMT
I always thought the UWE design missed a trick because it was a large, out of town and easy to get to plot of land. Yet it's commercial potential was never set to be realised because the university demanded so much of it to be taken up by teaching space. Even the commercial units were things that revolved around UWE's priorities like a Creche, convenience store for students, Gym etc. The FM design will be completely different because the developers will want to utilise as much land around the core stadium as possible due to the high land value. This should hopefully mean steeper stands and a better atmosphere as the stadium itself will be compressed onto as smaller space on the plot as the can get away with. However it's important that we still get things like we were due to get at UWE like sufficient hospitality and executive box facilities, modern supporters bar, club shop and museum. I suspect like UWE though, anything on the land beyond the stadium itself we'll have very little input into. About the only thing I really liked in the UWE stadium design was that massive bar it was going to have ! The rest of it was just a bit bland and boring . |
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Post by keygas on Jun 5, 2023 15:35:04 GMT
I always thought the UWE design missed a trick because it was a large, out of town and easy to get to plot of land. Yet it's commercial potential was never set to be realised because the university demanded so much of it to be taken up by teaching space. Even the commercial units were things that revolved around UWE's priorities like a Creche, convenience store for students, Gym etc. The FM design will be completely different because the developers will want to utilise as much land around the core stadium as possible due to the high land value. This should hopefully mean steeper stands and a better atmosphere as the stadium itself will be compressed onto as smaller space on the plot as the can get away with. However it's important that we still get things like we were due to get at UWE like sufficient hospitality and executive box facilities, modern supporters bar, club shop and museum. I suspect like UWE though, anything on the land beyond the stadium itself we'll have very little input into. About the only thing I really liked in the UWE stadium design was that massive bar it was going to have ! The rest of it was just a bit bland and boring . Personally I always thought if the Memorial Stadium redevelop would have gone ahead, it would have created a cracking atmosphere with the close proximity of stands to the playing area & I would be more than happy if the plans for the FM are something similar but with other facilities instead of student accommodation.  |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 5, 2023 15:41:59 GMT
I always thought the UWE design missed a trick because it was a large, out of town and easy to get to plot of land. Yet it's commercial potential was never set to be realised because the university demanded so much of it to be taken up by teaching space. Even the commercial units were things that revolved around UWE's priorities like a Creche, convenience store for students, Gym etc. The FM design will be completely different because the developers will want to utilise as much land around the core stadium as possible due to the high land value. This should hopefully mean steeper stands and a better atmosphere as the stadium itself will be compressed onto as smaller space on the plot as the can get away with. However it's important that we still get things like we were due to get at UWE like sufficient hospitality and executive box facilities, modern supporters bar, club shop and museum. I suspect like UWE though, anything on the land beyond the stadium itself we'll have very little input into. Given there were little other developments around the UWE site other than the uni then made sense to try and tap into their students spending on non match days? As far as the FM I assume Congyer will want to make some money out of the development, if so, then they could also restrict what the club can include within the actual stadium itself. |
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Post by gassince1957 on Jun 5, 2023 16:41:05 GMT
I always thought the UWE design missed a trick because it was a large, out of town and easy to get to plot of land. Yet it's commercial potential was never set to be realised because the university demanded so much of it to be taken up by teaching space. Even the commercial units were things that revolved around UWE's priorities like a Creche, convenience store for students, Gym etc. The FM design will be completely different because the developers will want to utilise as much land around the core stadium as possible due to the high land value. This should hopefully mean steeper stands and a better atmosphere as the stadium itself will be compressed onto as smaller space on the plot as the can get away with. However it's important that we still get things like we were due to get at UWE like sufficient hospitality and executive box facilities, modern supporters bar, club shop and museum. I suspect like UWE though, anything on the land beyond the stadium itself we'll have very little input into. Given there were little other developments around the UWE site other than the uni then made sense to try and tap into their students spending on non match days?
As far as the FM I assume Congyer will want to make some money out of the development, if so, then they could also restrict what the club can include within the actual stadium itself. The issue was that we didn't have the right to receive the charges for student parking, teaching, jogging track etc. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 5, 2023 18:08:03 GMT
Given there were little other developments around the UWE site other than the uni then made sense to try and tap into their students spending on non match days?
As far as the FM I assume Congyer will want to make some money out of the development, if so, then they could also restrict what the club can include within the actual stadium itself. The issue was that we didn't have the right to receive the charges for student parking, teaching, jogging track etc. The issue is we don't really have a clue what was discussed before talks collapsed. |
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Post by Gasshole on Jun 6, 2023 1:05:16 GMT
I always thought the UWE design missed a trick because it was a large, out of town and easy to get to plot of land. Yet it's commercial potential was never set to be realised because the university demanded so much of it to be taken up by teaching space. Even the commercial units were things that revolved around UWE's priorities like a Creche, convenience store for students, Gym etc. The FM design will be completely different because the developers will want to utilise as much land around the core stadium as possible due to the high land value. This should hopefully mean steeper stands and a better atmosphere as the stadium itself will be compressed onto as smaller space on the plot as the can get away with. However it's important that we still get things like we were due to get at UWE like sufficient hospitality and executive box facilities, modern supporters bar, club shop and museum. I suspect like UWE though, anything on the land beyond the stadium itself we'll have very little input into. About the only thing I really liked in the UWE stadium design was that massive bar it was going to have ! The rest of it was just a bit bland and boring . Same, hopefully with Urinals to match. If I can empty myself quicker I can generate more money in the Bar. |
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Post by Squiffy on Jun 9, 2023 19:10:22 GMT
Work commitments took me to St. Philip’s Marsh today and I used the opportunity to drive along Albert Road past the FM. It’s obviously been a warm day and I couldn’t help noticing that there was a strong aroma emanating from the waste processing companies that border the site to the south and to the west. Now. I’m all for nostalgia but the smell of gas might be taking it a bit too far. Does anyone know if those businesses have also been in talks about relocating or is it literally just the FM?
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Post by yattongas on Jun 9, 2023 20:15:21 GMT
Work commitments took me to St. Philip’s Marsh today and I used the opportunity to drive along Albert Road past the FM. It’s obviously been a warm day and I couldn’t help noticing that there was a strong aroma emanating from the waste processing companies that border the site to the south and to the west. Now. I’m all for nostalgia but the smell of gas might be taking it a bit too far. Does anyone know if those businesses have also been in talks about relocating or is it literally just the FM? Probably just the prevailing winds coming from Ashton Gate 💩 |
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