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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2023 7:39:49 GMT
Do you know this to be true, or is it a rumour? I haven't heard anything about the talks breaking down after 5 minutes. The talks didn't break down between planners, Conygar and any other interested parties, it was just that we didn't remain at them. Once it was obvious we wouldn't have the finance to take an active part we were off This was my post on the 11th August "Sounds like Hussain has had to break the bad news to Wael that he's got two Hopes of raising the finance for the Fruit Bat Arena and one of those is Bob Hope" Oh so you have been present at these meetings then? I'm not a betting person but if I were I would bet you haven't been privvy to anything whatsoever. Purely spouting nonsense guesswork, revelling in slating the club for something you have no substance too. Prove the forum suspects wrong let's have some substance to your claims, what meetings have you been present at, where and when? Drumroll, waiting in excited anticipation from someone ITK........... |
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Post by axegas on Sept 12, 2023 7:47:20 GMT
It’s not exactly hard to pretend you’re ITK by predicting a Rovers stadium plan will fall through.
It’s like pretending your ITK by saying Rovers will field 11 players next Saturday.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 12, 2023 7:54:52 GMT
wonder if club will communicate to the fans whats happened or is that a pipe dream as well I've been told they're producing a video using drones to show Wally doing a Sad Snoopy walk away from the Fruit Market all the way back to Legoland Chernobyl The Mem. Letting yourself down there calling Wael Wally there IMO. He does his best for us even if it doesn’t always work out. |
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Post by brisgas123 on Sept 12, 2023 7:55:44 GMT
The rovers hierarchy get away with so much by taking advantage of the room temperature IQ of so many of the fanbase.
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 12, 2023 8:06:06 GMT
I've been told they're producing a video using drones to show Wally doing a Sad Snoopy walk away from the Fruit Market all the way back to Legoland Chernobyl The Mem. Letting yourself down there calling Wael Wally there IMO. He does his best for us even if it doesn’t always work out. It never works out. He's useless. |
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Post by eric on Sept 12, 2023 8:09:35 GMT
Isn’t that a big part of the problem? Fans demand a better stadium but prefer to line the pockets of the Glos Road pubs rather than use bars in the ground - a big gamble for the owners rebuilding The Mem as will the revenue streams be limited if fans don’t use our own facilities? Agree this is a big problem. However, the club has to compete with what the local pubs are offering. Quality drinks Similar pricing of drinks (maybe cheaper due to our buying power) Ease of buying drinks, minimising queues Area for kids Places to sit Places to chat Good selection of food Shelter from bad weather I can see why people are attracted to the local pubs. Exactly the sort of things the club should be covering off and engaging with fans on before deciding on what a Mem revamp will look like. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 12, 2023 8:10:38 GMT
The rovers hierarchy get away with so much by taking advantage of the room temperature IQ of so many of the fanbase. Unnecessary and unfair. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 12, 2023 8:14:25 GMT
The rovers hierarchy get away with so much by taking advantage of the room temperature IQ of so many of the fanbase. So what are your suggestions to force the issue? |
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Post by eric on Sept 12, 2023 8:17:19 GMT
That’s all well and good but I don’t think we can expect our owners to fork out millions on a fancy stadium redevelopment and the fans not play a part by diverting one of the potential income streams elsewhere. Our future doesn’t look bright if we can’t find a new site and Mem development is also then deemed not financially viable. Loads of other clubs owners have done it and redeveloped their urban home but we can’t expect whoever owns us to do the same, is that what you are saying? Not exactly but revenue streams will come into play. If we are staying at the Mem it’s clear it’s not currently fit for purpose and needs refurbishment. At the moment whoever owns BRFC is losing millions every year, to what extent and quality any refurb will look like depends on whether the outlay can be justified. To produce the all singing all dancing refurb fans will demand the owners need to have confidence that the fans will play their part and spend their cash here rather than barging their way in at 2:59 every Saturday after filling the coffers of the local public houses. |
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Post by eric on Sept 12, 2023 8:27:19 GMT
In response to Bristol Post article, imo it would be really good of the club to speak plainly about what is going on, it's the confidentiality line that annoys me the most. Surely it would do the club no harm at all to say we have been working closely with X and have come up with X seater stadium with these facilities etc, it's benefits, the revenue streams...and maybe what it looks like. Surely Rovers have reasons for collapse for deciding why something isn't right and an idea of what the thing they want actually looks like??... Why is it we find out from Bristol Post or someone on the forum every time. It just leaves the impression that they possibly wouldn't say anything at all. I’d guess confidentiality is a genuine at the moment. Perhaps when we move from “the verge of collapse” to its now “collapsed” will be the time we should expect to hear something? |
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Post by percy on Sept 12, 2023 8:30:42 GMT
Wow, some of you lot need to get some perspective.
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Post by eric on Sept 12, 2023 8:31:05 GMT
I doubt the arena will go ahead as was planned because it is based upon over 100 very large gigs per year. There are not many artists able to attract such large attendances. There is also competition from Trashton and festivals during the summer months. There is also going to be a new 5k capacity venue next to Trashton. Could the Brabazan hangers be made into a stadium? There most definitely is. Not just Music but also Stand Up Comedians, Premier League Darts, other things like BMX, Monster Truck shows, Family shows, seminars, exhibitions, conferences. I would imagine there's adequate space to fit a stadium next to the arena. I’m pretty much giving up on getting a new ground at a new location when we are tied in with third parties on the development. The process is so slow and so many moving parts that it almost requires a miracle to work out. |
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Post by yategasman on Sept 12, 2023 8:31:46 GMT
Good point well made I would much rather have a beer at the Mem pre-match even if it cost a bit more than up the road but it takes so bloody long to get served but that’s probably the same at the majority of clubs with small stadiums?
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Post by kruger on Sept 12, 2023 8:32:02 GMT
The talks didn't break down between planners, Conygar and any other interested parties, it was just that we didn't remain at them. Once it was obvious we wouldn't have the finance to take an active part we were off This was my post on the 11th August "Sounds like Hussain has had to break the bad news to Wael that he's got two Hopes of raising the finance for the Fruit Bat Arena and one of those is Bob Hope" Oh so you have been present at these meetings then? I'm not a betting person but if I were I would bet you haven't been privvy to anything whatsoever. Purely spouting nonsense guesswork, revelling in slating the club for something you have no substance too. Prove the forum suspects wrong let's have some substance to your claims, what meetings have you been present at, where and when? Drumroll, waiting in excited anticipation from someone ITK........... can't wait for the reply |
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Post by phillistine on Sept 12, 2023 8:32:37 GMT
A few years ago the plan was to become a club who developed players and then sold them on for a profit and in so doing became financially viable. The income streams for the top teams however are now so attractive that even getting in the championship where there is a healthy tv annual income and an increasing number of games are televised at £100k a throw has given everyone a new target. The reality is that having a smaller ground would restrict annual attendance money but that is insignificant compared to TV figures. Bournemouth averaged 10,000 crowds last season and yet paid out £30.5 million for a player. Surely that tells you all you need to know. The new stand at the Mem is quite impressive and it does not need much of an imagination to realise that the Mem could look quite nice if other chunks were rebuilt and we would maintain the atmosphere that adds to the occasion.
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Post by eric on Sept 12, 2023 8:35:05 GMT
Good point well made I would much rather have a beer at the Mem pre-match even if it cost a bit more than up the road but it takes so bloody long to get served but that’s probably the same at the majority of clubs with small stadiums? The level of service from the staff in the food concessions is appalling. Mainly students who don’t give a stuff - why does it take 3 people to serve up a pre-heated pasty in a cashless operation? I can probably answer that myself - one to turn around and pick up the pasty, one to type the price on to the machine and one to stand idly by checking Facebook on their phone. |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Sept 12, 2023 8:44:27 GMT
A few years ago the plan was to become a club who developed players and then sold them on for a profit and in so doing became financially viable. The income streams for the top teams however are now so attractive that even getting in the championship where there is a healthy tv annual income and an increasing number of games are televised at £100k a throw has given everyone a new target. The reality is that having a smaller ground would restrict annual attendance money but that is insignificant compared to TV figures. Bournemouth averaged 10,000 crowds last season and yet paid out £30.5 million for a player. Surely that tells you all you need to know. The new stand at the Mem is quite impressive and it does not need much of an imagination to realise that the Mem could look quite nice if other chunks were rebuilt and we would maintain the atmosphere that adds to the occasion. Bournemouth is interesting ,yet they now have a wealthy US owner prepared to stick his hand in his pocket , plus they have been elevated to Prem level
pretty much due to Eddie Howes brilliant managment ( 2015 ) . The prob with the Mem is do we want to go down the temp stand thing or put in perm structures that
require a lot of finance ,something I'm not sure the hierachy can stump up.
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Post by phillistine on Sept 12, 2023 8:46:39 GMT
In response to Bristol Post article, imo it would be really good of the club to speak plainly about what is going on, it's the confidentiality line that annoys me the most. Surely it would do the club no harm at all to say we have been working closely with X and have come up with X seater stadium with these facilities etc, it's benefits, the revenue streams...and maybe what it looks like. Surely Rovers have reasons for collapse for deciding why something isn't right and an idea of what the thing they want actually looks like??... Why is it we find out from Bristol Post or someone on the forum every time. It just leaves the impression that they possibly wouldn't say anything at all. Perhaps- just perhaps - the story has been leaked deliberately. Regardless of that the new owner has now entered the negotiating table and he is dealing with a situation not of his making but that he has inherited. When Wael was thinking of selling his majority he would have looked not just at the financials but someone of differing experiences and skills - maybe we are seeing that come to the fore. People give a new playing staff time to gel - how about waiting to see how the new owner affects things |
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 12, 2023 8:47:32 GMT
The rovers hierarchy get away with so much by taking advantage of the room temperature IQ of so many of the fanbase. We all know what we need, but none of us can provide it. So what good is it throwing our toys out of the pram. As long as they are giving us a decent budget and financing it, which is more than any of us can do, we are realistic and can see that. When are you taking us over and building us a stadium??? Could you do better?? No you couldn't, see stop insulting others, just because they have a bit of common sense. |
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Post by phillistine on Sept 12, 2023 8:50:53 GMT
A few years ago the plan was to become a club who developed players and then sold them on for a profit and in so doing became financially viable. The income streams for the top teams however are now so attractive that even getting in the championship where there is a healthy tv annual income and an increasing number of games are televised at £100k a throw has given everyone a new target. The reality is that having a smaller ground would restrict annual attendance money but that is insignificant compared to TV figures. Bournemouth averaged 10,000 crowds last season and yet paid out £30.5 million for a player. Surely that tells you all you need to know. The new stand at the Mem is quite impressive and it does not need much of an imagination to realise that the Mem could look quite nice if other chunks were rebuilt and we would maintain the atmosphere that adds to the occasion. Bournemouth is interesting ,yet they now have a wealthy US owner prepared to stick his hand in his pocket , plus they have been elevated to Prem level
pretty much due to Eddie Howes brilliant managment ( 2015 ) . The prob with the Mem is do we want to go down the temp stand thing or put in perm structures that
require a lot of finance ,something I'm not sure the hierachy can stump up.
You are assuming that our owners don't have the wealth but have also forgotten that the new owner of Bournemouth got involved because they were in the Premier League . Things change when you get to Shangri La. If Rovers ever get to the Premiership you would suddenly find that suitors come calling and that opportunities for new stadiums would grow out of the woodwork. Life would be easier than they are at this transition stage |
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