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Post by Hudson1883 on Sept 29, 2019 12:29:41 GMT
he had a lot of luck with both promotions,maybe he took us further than he thought he would Two pathetic posts about 2 hard earned promotions over 49 and 46 games. A history with hardly any promotions and you 2 clowns putting down the most recent ones. No one gets ‘lucky’ when achieving promotion. Probably the most absurd statement one could ever offer.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 29, 2019 12:34:27 GMT
A look at the National Table, National North and South would tell you it’s not that easy. Getting on for 15 former league clubs still there. Oxford, a similar club to us with similar ambitions took 5 years to return. Best not to underestimate the job DC did or have a big sense of entitlement because it usually bites you on the ****. But I agree that we are now at the place we should be and I know who we need to thank, as I suspect most gasheads do. UTG! edit: Came to this late due to pop ups about Aldi! (What’s that all about?) and have seen that others said what I said in previous posts. Jomo, 1970 and Knowall absolutely agree. Glad I’m not the only one to have my access to the forum sabotaged by Aldi - they briefly overtook Sainsbury’s as my most hated supermarket last night! Maybe one of the mods is on commission 😉
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Post by peterhooper57 on Sept 29, 2019 12:38:19 GMT
IMO BRFC will be forever grateful to D.C., we were fortunate Daz was already at the club when we were heading to the Conference, his ever game is a project became monotonous; however, two consecutive promotions, hallelujah. D.C. was thrown under the bus by sneaky Wael, who promised us all a moon on a stick, he was held shoulder high down to the Queen Vic and the rest is a unsavoury history for D.C. and the rest of us who have been left floundering.
I really wish DC well, l look out for the Walsall FC results, excepting the Gas giving them a seeing to the next time we meet, is that evolution or revolution, tbh l do not know.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 29, 2019 12:53:41 GMT
DC’s starting point was incredibly low. The fact it was over a long 46 game season played into our hands as we had time to right the wrongs as it were. Some of the teams weren’t even fully professional! Add on the fact that managers before 1987 didn’t have the luxury of the play off system and it’s clear that his achievement of getting us back into the league weren’t exactly unexpected. The second promotion was far superior than the first. Something makes me think you didn't bother during the conference season and have only joined the ride later on. I may be wrong?
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 29, 2019 15:14:54 GMT
I’d sooner be a clown than a numpty. If you could point out to me where I’m not stating a fact please. It’s this constant deification of DC that is truly pathetic. He made a pigs ear of bringing new and expensive players to the club. I dread to think where we would be if he had carried on. He was the perfect fit at the perfect time but he had to go. Get over it. Like i said before we havnt had many promotions so why on earth would any rovers fan knock any one of them? Totally pathetic. Luton were in the conference for about 5 years and lincoln longer while stockport and others never managed to get back into the league,those are the real facts not the garbage your peddling. But hey keep on knocking if it suits your agenda. Who needs city fans to knock our small number of promotions when we have the likes of you and your little mate doing such a good job of it? Yes, agree. We’ve had 6 promotions, Bert Tann had 1, Don Megson had 1, Gerry Francis had 1, Paul T had 1 and DC had 2. Of the players, Chris Lines had 3 promotions yet who gets most stick on here? We’ve all moved on from DC but you can do that and appreciate the great job he did and support GC at the same time. No need to undermine or lessen his achievements. UTG!
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Post by rambo on Sept 29, 2019 15:27:08 GMT
Like i said before we havnt had many promotions so why on earth would any rovers fan knock any one of them? Totally pathetic. Luton were in the conference for about 5 years and lincoln longer while stockport and others never managed to get back into the league,those are the real facts not the garbage your peddling. But hey keep on knocking if it suits your agenda. Who needs city fans to knock our small number of promotions when we have the likes of you and your little mate doing such a good job of it? Yes, agree. We’ve had 6 promotions, Bert Tann had 1, Don Megson had 1, Gerry Francis had 1, Paul T had 1 and DC had 2. Of the players, Chris Lines had 3 promotions yet who gets most stick on here? We’ve all moved on from DC but you can do that and appreciate the great job he did and support GC at the same time. No need to undermine or lessen his achievements. UTG! Exactly. We finished 2nd and 3rd respectively. That deserves respect whatever division you're in. We should be thankful that the post DC era has not gone the same way as the post Trollope era of struggling each season and sacking a manager annually. DC is a legend and GC has the platform now to build his own legacy. The two are mutually exclusive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2019 16:33:40 GMT
Two pathetic posts about 2 hard earned promotions over 49 and 46 games. A history with hardly any promotions and you 2 clowns putting down the most recent ones. No one gets ‘lucky’ when achieving promotion. Probably the most absurd statement one could ever offer. True but you can be fortunate to get over the line or unfortunate to just miss out, sometimes fortune smiles on you when you need it. As is often said, it's a fine line between success and failure.
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Post by lpgas on Sept 30, 2019 15:23:56 GMT
DC took us from League 2 to the Conference then to league 1 Crap, John Ward took the us to the conference, DC had just a few weeks to try to stop it against all odds. He had 8 games. 24points. We needed a point to stay up. We could have gone out and played behind the ball, instead it was played like a must win game, and we lost. he took us down
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Post by lpgas on Sept 30, 2019 15:24:51 GMT
Let’s have a bit of realism at least. We got back into the league on penalties for Christ’s sake. In a league with such giants as Alfreton, Welling, Braintree,Dover and Telford! I should *ing think so. I would say we have now arrived, more or less, where we should be in the pecking order. Many teams have failed to do so before and after in their first season. A return is not a given even for a big league club. Also, if you remember we went up automatically the following year. We were the first team to do that in a long time too. I believe Luton were there for 8 years?
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Post by lpgas on Sept 30, 2019 15:28:36 GMT
IMO BRFC will be forever grateful to D.C., we were fortunate Daz was already at the club when we were heading to the Conference, his ever game is a project became monotonous; however, two consecutive promotions, hallelujah. D.C. was thrown under the bus by sneaky Wael, who promised us all a moon on a stick, he was held shoulder high down to the Queen Vic and the rest is a unsavoury history for D.C. and the rest of us who have been left floundering. I really wish DC well, l look out for the Walsall FC results, excepting the Gas giving them a seeing to the next time we meet, is that evolution or revolution, tbh l do not know. No after 7 months of poor results we hoped he would turn it around but after losing 0-4 at home the writing was on the wall. that game was the first home game I had missed in 9 years because I knew we had no hope of winning.
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Post by stapletongas on Sept 30, 2019 17:22:20 GMT
Crap, John Ward took the us to the conference, DC had just a few weeks to try to stop it against all odds. He had 8 games. 24points. We needed a point to stay up. We could have gone out and played behind the ball, instead it was played like a must win game, and we lost. he took us down You don't know much about football management do you
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Post by aghast on Sept 30, 2019 17:35:15 GMT
I don't know why acknowledging DC just wasn't up to the task in 2014, is impossible for some to admit. He had time to get us the few points required, and he couldn't do it. What he then learnt from that, and what he did after, was nothing short of amazing. It was unfortunate, but no shame involved. He was new and thrown in at the deep end. Someone with more experience could have done the job required, and we would now probably still be lingering unhappily around mid-table in League 2 instead of being in our historical place in the pecking order.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 30, 2019 18:11:23 GMT
DCs tenure doesn’t have to be entirely binary.
When he started he struggled, his management style didn’t suit difficult players.
When we went down the conference he did well to construct a team to get us promotion. He did a great job which few managers achieve with a team freshly relegated to conference level.
When we came back up into League Two he excelled and we ascended back into our historical place
We did reasonably well for two seasons.
However, eventually the wheels came off the wagon and he did poorly in our last few months.
So a poor start, a fantastic middle for a number of years, followed by a poor end. On balance, one of (if not the most) most successful managers.
Because of our success many of us struggled to see the writing was on the wall and it was best for all parties for him to move on.
NONE of this changes what he achieved in 2014-15 and 2015-16 though!
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Post by Jomo on Sept 30, 2019 19:53:30 GMT
DCs tenure doesn’t have to be entirely binary. When he started he struggled, his management style didn’t suit difficult players. When we went down the conference he did well to construct a team to get us promotion. He did a great job which few managers achieve with a team freshly relegated to conference level. When we came back up into League Two he excelled and we ascended back into our historical place We did reasonably well for two seasons. However, eventually the wheels came off the wagon and he did poorly in our last few months. So a poor start, a fantastic middle for a number of years, followed by a poor end. On balance, one of (if not the most) most successful managers. Because of our success many of us struggled to see the writing was on the wall and it was best for all parties for him to move on. NONE of this changes what he achieved in 2014-15 and 2015-16 though! Very well balanced and reasonable post. I hold DC in the very highest regard but your assessment I have to say is probably closest to the mark.
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Post by socrates on Sept 30, 2019 20:04:16 GMT
DCs tenure doesn’t have to be entirely binary. When he started he struggled, his management style didn’t suit difficult players. When we went down the conference he did well to construct a team to get us promotion. He did a great job which few managers achieve with a team freshly relegated to conference level. When we came back up into League Two he excelled and we ascended back into our historical place We did reasonably well for two seasons. However, eventually the wheels came off the wagon and he did poorly in our last few months. So a poor start, a fantastic middle for a number of years, followed by a poor end. On balance, one of (if not the most) most successful managers. Because of our success many of us struggled to see the writing was on the wall and it was best for all parties for him to move on. NONE of this changes what he achieved in 2014-15 and 2015-16 though! I agree with this. Blokes an absolute legend for what he did for us but I was relieved when he was sacked. It was an emotional time and very sad sure but he left at the right time. It wasn’t all great during his time with us but there were many great moments and very few bad ones. I hope he does well with Walsall i here they’ve picked up after a bad start and Sincs got a winner the other day, another who was fantastic for us but left at the right time even though it was sad to see him leave.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Sept 30, 2019 20:10:20 GMT
I don't know why acknowledging DC just wasn't up to the task in 2014, is impossible for some to admit. He had time to get us the few points required, and he couldn't do it. What he then learnt from that, and what he did after, was nothing short of amazing. It was unfortunate, but no shame involved. He was new and thrown in at the deep end. Someone with more experience could have done the job required, and we would now probably still be lingering unhappily around mid-table in League 2 instead of being in our historical place in the pecking order. John ward responsible for our drop into conference , not Darrell Clarke, he was left in an impossible situ, utg
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Post by wilkimania on Sept 30, 2019 20:22:37 GMT
Regardless of which manager is at fault for our relegation, can we all admit that the 11 that played the final game of the season was almost devoid of any talent.
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Post by axegas on Sept 30, 2019 20:32:13 GMT
Regardless of which manager is at fault for our relegation, can we all admit that the 11 that played the final game of the season was almost devoid of any talent. The bench that day makes me shudder: Broghammer Harding Gough Santos Keary Lucas Thomas A shocking lack of squad depth and add to that we had players like Beardsley, Mohamed and Clucas starting and it's not a surprise that we struggled like we did.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 30, 2019 20:39:17 GMT
Regardless of which manager is at fault for our relegation, can we all admit that the 11 that played the final game of the season was almost devoid of any talent. You do realise that team included our present and also last season's captains plus JJOT who's still playing Div 1 football? Mildenhall O Clarke Mohamed Parkes McChrystal Lockyer Clucas Clarkson Harrold Beardsley O'Toole
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Sept 30, 2019 20:46:47 GMT
Regardless of which manager is at fault for our relegation, can we all admit that the 11 that played the final game of the season was almost devoid of any talent. You do realise that team included our present and also last season's captains plus JJOT who's still playing Div 1 football? Mildenhall O Clarke Mohamed Parkes McChrystal Lockyer Clucas Clarkson Harrold Beardsley O'Toole In fairness Clarke and Lockyer and just broken through and learning their trade so can’t really class them as the players they are now back then. But there were worse teams than us that season and that’s not a relegation side.
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