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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Sept 28, 2019 9:07:56 GMT
10 league games into the season, here are the season average from the Player Ratings threads. Last season's thread is here. Players| Player | Average Rating | Average Difference | | Upson | 7.08 | +0.31 | | Kilgour | 6.93 | +0.20 | | Craig | 6.88 | +0.24 | | Davies | 6.87 | +0.28 | | Ogogo | 6.71 | +0.19 | | Clarke-Harris | 6.70 | +0.06 | | Jaakkola | 6.55 | +0.07 | | Kelly | 6.50 | NOLE | | Hare | 6.41 | +0.04 | | Little | 6.07 | +0.07 | | Smith | 6.01 | -0.28 | | Menayese | 5.88 | NOLE | | van Stappershoef | 5.73 | +0.11 | | Leahy | 5.66 | -0.36 | | Adeboyejo | 5.62 | -0.11 | | Clarke | 5.62 | -0.28 | | Bennett | 5.49 | +0.07 | | Rodman | 5.28 | -0.52 | | Nichols | 5.25 | -0.46 | | Sercombe | 5.21 | -0.40 |
Upson 4 ( 1 time runner-up) Davies 2 ( 2) Ogogo 1 (2) Kilgour 1 ( 2) Jaakkola 1Bennett 1Clarke-Harris 1Craig ( 2) Smith ( 1) Little ( 1) Posters |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 28, 2019 9:24:51 GMT
Yayyy I think we have played better more than anyone else! 😋
From 5.54-7.00 that's a very small grouping and very encouraging.
Am I right to infer that most of us see the 90 mins very similar?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 28, 2019 9:33:33 GMT
Surprised to see the Goal Machine Sir Tom Nichols is low on the list
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Sept 28, 2019 11:32:57 GMT
So Tommy Widdrington got loads of stick for recommending too many Cov players, and they’ve actually turned out to be 3 key signings.
I’m surprised Kelly hasn’t been given a run of games yet given that Leahy has been one of our poorer players.
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Post by markczgas on Sept 28, 2019 12:30:39 GMT
So Tommy Widdrington got loads of stick for recommending too many Cov players, and they’ve actually turned out to be 3 key signings. I’m surprised Kelly hasn’t been given a run of games yet given that Leahy has been one of our poorer players. well said man ! Agree about Leahy, just think he's a bit ahead of Kelly for his extra mobility. I know he hasn't scored for us yet, but he does get into some great positions when the ball comes in from the right - maybe today ! |
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Sept 28, 2019 13:03:21 GMT
So Tommy Widdrington got loads of stick for recommending too many Cov players, and they’ve actually turned out to be 3 key signings. I’m surprised Kelly hasn’t been given a run of games yet given that Leahy has been one of our poorer players. well said man ! Agree about Leahy, just think he's a bit ahead of Kelly for his extra mobility. I know he hasn't scored for us yet, but he does get into some great positions when the ball comes in from the right - maybe today ! Yes I think Leahy has been disappointing after good reviews in pre-season. I feel he’s had a fair crack at it now and hasn’t really performed. So given that Kelly performed okay last season I think he’s been hard done by not to get more of a chance. |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Jan 1, 2020 16:32:59 GMT
A bit late on this, but after 20 league games into the season, these are the season averages These won't include the Wimbledon, Fleetwood or MK threads but I'll finish those off soon as well. Players
| Player | Last Ten Rating | Season Rating | Season average difference | | Menayese | 7.74 | 7.70 | +0.60 | | Sercombe | 7.43 | 6.60 | -0.01 | | van Stappershoef | 7.27 | 6.50 | +0.13 | | Jaakkola | 7.20 | 6.88 | +0.39 | | Ogogo | 7.06 | 6.87 | +0.53 | | Craig | 7.03 | 6.96 | +0.51 | | Kilgour | 6.70 | 6.80 | +0.28 | | Clarke-Harris | 6.70 | 6.70 | +0.09 | | Tomlinson | 6.63 | 6.63 | NOLE | | Hargreaves | 6.58 | 6.58 | NOLE | | Rodman | 6.52 | 6.27 | -0.24 | | Davies | 6.50 | 6.75 | +0.52 | | Leahy | 6.33 | 5.96 | -0.59 | | Upson | 6.32 | 6.67 | +0.19 | | Smith | 6.06 | 6.04 | -0.56 | | Little | 6.02 | 6.05 | -0.51 | | Adeboyejo | 6.00 | 5.87 | -0.21 | | Clarke | 5.51 | 5.57 | -0.64 | | Nichols | 5.21 | 5.23 | -1.05 | | Bennett | 5.15 | 5.40 | -0.12 | | Kelly | 4.86 | 5.00 | -0.57 | | Hare | n/a | 6.41 | +0.08 | | Holmes-Dennis | NOLE | NOLE | NOLE |
Jaakkola 4 ( 3x runner-up) Upson 4 ( 1) Davies 3 ( 2) Ogogo 3 ( 2) Sercombe 2 ( 1) Craig 1 ( 6) Kilgour 1 ( 2) Bennett 1Clarke-Harris 1Menayese 1Little ( 1) Clarke ( 1) Adeboyejo ( 1) Smith ( 1) Posters
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Feb 20, 2020 11:45:06 GMT
30 league games in and here are the standings in the Player Rating thread averages: These are the first ten league games of Garner's reign up to Tranmere (but not including Blackpool) Players
| Player | Last Ten Rating | Season Rating | Season Average Difference | | Jaakkola | 7.19 | 6.91 | +0.48 | | Mitchell-Lawson | 6.81 | 6.81 | +1.45 | | Davies | 6.38 | 6.68 | +0.56 | | Blackman | 6.27 | 6.27 | +0.75 | | Ginnelly | 6.17 | 6.17 | +0.49 | | Kelly | 6.00 | 5.03 | -0.58 | | Craig | 5.71 | 6.53 | +0.41 | | Kilgour | 5.70 | 6.41 | +0.25 | | Holmes-Dennis | 5.66 | 5.66 | -0.24 | | Sercombe | 5.61 | 6.28 | +0.09 | | Little | 5.58 | 5.92 | -0.31 | | Upson | 5.52 | 6.27 | +0.09 | | Rodman | 5.44 | 5.90 | -0.16 | | Clarke-Harris | 5.42 | 6.06 | -0.04 | | Hargreaves | 5.30 | 5.39 | -0.60 | | Clarke | 5.30 | 5.50 | -0.59 | | Menayese | 5.28 | 6.22 | +0.23 | | Nichols | 5.19 | 5.22 | -0.87 | | Ogogo | 5.07 | 6.41 | +0.17 | | van Stappershoef | 4.88 | 5.54 | +0.18 | | Leahy | 4.85 | 5.62 | -0.59 | | Reilly | 4.84 | 4.84 | -0.03 | | Barrett | 4.71 | 4.71 | -0.77 | | Adeboyejo | 4.56 | 5.83 | -0.25 | | Smith | 4.42 | 6.02 | -0.57 | | Abraham | 4.25 | 4.25 | NOLE | | Bennett | 4.20 | 5.34 | -0.13 |
Jaakkola 5 (+ 4 times runner-up) Upson 5 ( 1) Davies 4 ( 3) Sercombe 3 ( 2) Ogogo 3 ( 2) Craig 2 ( 8) Clarke-Harris 2 ( 1) Mitchell-Lawson 2 ( 1) Kilgour 1 ( 2) Rodman 1Bennett 1Menayese 1Hargreaves 1Ginnelly 1Clarke ( 2) Little ( 1) Adeboyejo ( 1) Smith ( 1) Nichols ( 1) Blackman ( 1) Posters
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Post by petegas on Feb 20, 2020 19:58:49 GMT
Massive thanks for the time you put into this. Very interesting to see how players have faired over the season, as it’s easy to forget in the heat of the moment. Much appreciated!
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Post by axegas on Feb 20, 2020 20:47:17 GMT
Thanks for that I Voted For KodosSome really interesting stats there. Confirms what we all knew that JML has come in and made a real impact. |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 9, 2020 13:13:43 GMT
Having sat on this for a while since the end of the season, the start of the new season has prompted me to bring the 2019/20 Player Ratings stats thread to a conclusion. Players| Player | Season Average Rating | Season Average Difference | Best Game | Worst Game | | Jaakkola | 6.91 | +0.39 | 9.3 - Plymouth A | 4.9 - Blackpool A | | Davies | 6.68 | +0.75 | 8.6 - Brighton H | 4.5 - Bolton H | | Tomlinson | 6.63 | -0.59 | 6.6 - Ipswich A | 6.6 - Ipswich A | | Blackman | 6.57 | +0.84 | 7.9 - Blackpool H | 5.3 - Wycombe A | | Craig | 6.40 | +0.37 | 8.9 - Peterborough H | 3.8 - Coventry A | | Ogogo | 6.31 | +0.17 | 8.4 - Oxford H | 3.5 - MK Dons A | | Kilgour | 6.29 | +0.26 | 8.7 - Plymouth A | 3.2 - Coventry A | | Hare | 6.21 | +0.14 | 7.9 - Oxford H | 4.4 - Southend A | | Menayese | 6.18 | +0.26 | 8.6 - Ipswich A | 1.3 - Coventry A | | Clarke-Harris | 6.12 | +0.28 | 8.4 - Sunderland H | 3.5 - MK Dons A | | Mitchell-Lawson | 6.11 | +1.17 | 8.0 - Sunderland H | 3.8 - Shrewsbury H | | Upson | 6.08 | +0.13 | 8.4 - Oxford H | 3.2 - Coventry A | | Sercombe | 6.03 | -0.33 | 8.0 - Shrewsbury A | 2.3 - Coventry A | | Smith | 6.02 | -0.76 | 8.4 - Cheltenham H | 3.8 - Bolton H | | Hargreaves | 6.02 | +0.06 | 7.7 - Sunderland H | 1.5 - Coventry A | | Little | 5.97 | +0.06 | 7.0 - Rochdale A | 4.2 - Gillingham H | | Rodman | 5.94 | -0.04 | 7.8 - Sunderland H | 2.3 - Coventry A | | Adeboyejo | 5.83 | -0.17 | 7.3 - Rochdale A | 1.5 - Coventry A | | Holmes-Dennis | 5.66 | -0.18 | 6.0 - Fleetwood H | 2.2 - Coventry A | | Ginnelly | 5.64 | +0.03 | 6.9 - Bolton A | 3.9 - Shrewsbury H | | Leahy | 5.57 | -0.71 | 7.4 - Ipswich A | 1.9 - Rotherham A | | van Stappershoef | 5.54 | +0.26 | 7.4 - Coventry H | 3.7 - MK Dons A | | Clarke | 5.33 | -0.77 | 7.9 - Shrewsbury A | 2.2 - Bolton H | | Nichols | 5.22 | -1.05 | 7.8 - Brighton H | 1.4 - Bolton H | | Bennett | 5.18 | -0.10 | 7.2 - Cheltenham H | 3.1 - Bolton H | | Harries | 5.09 | -0.95 | 6.9 - Sunderland H | 3.3 - Southend A | | Kelly | 5.03 | -0.67 | 7.0 - Rochdale A | 1.7 - Coventry A | | Daly | 4.91 | +0.40 | 6.5 - Sunderland H | 4.5 - Southend A | | Reilly | 4.84 | +0.14 | 6.1 - Doncaster H | 4.5 - Coventry H | | Barrett | 4.80 | -0.43 | 6.1 - Blackpool H | 4.2 - Rotherham A | | Abraham | 3.91 | -1.23 | 6.1 - Blackpool H | 2.4 - Southend A |
Jaakkola 6 ( 5x runner-up) Davies 5 ( 4) Upson 5 ( 2) Blackman 3 ( 2) Mitchell-Lawson 3 ( 2) Menayese 3 ( 2) Ogogo 3 ( 2) Sercombe 3 ( 2) Clarke-Harris 3 ( 1) Craig 2 ( 10) Kilgour 2 ( 4) Hargreaves 1 ( 1) Smith 1 ( 1) van Stappershoef 1 ( 1) Rodman 1
Leahy 1Ginnelly 1 Bennett 1Clarke ( 2) Little ( 1) Adeboyejo ( 1) Nichols ( 1) PostersThe overrate/underrates is a comparison on the poster's ratings for a player compared to their average. For example, Henbury Gas rated Nichols 1.6 points better than his average amongst other posters. This was the biggest difference for any player/poster combination, most of the differences are small and between -0.5 and +0.5 though. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 9, 2020 13:43:55 GMT
Great stats, IVFK..
Thanks for posting.
May I be the first to issue Mr Upson my wholehearted apologies for being the only poster underrating him..
Up until GC departed, I thought he was contender for player of the season! The best form in his time with us..
But apologies, Mr Upson your 5 mom awards by us are thoroughly justified.
I find it interesting only one underrated TN?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 9, 2020 13:55:04 GMT
Those two matches, Bolton at home (one of the worst ever in recent memory at home) and Cov away stick out like a sore thumb! Especially in worst stats table..
Imagine what would have happened if we reversed those results, what might have happened and where we would have been after 90 mins on that fateful match away to Ipshit??
Missed chances..
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Aug 9, 2020 17:05:03 GMT
Looking at that, I think it’s clear that the weakest area we haven’t strengthened is the left back position. Both Leahy and Kelly have poor ratings and ratings that are much lower than the rest of the team.
I wonder if we’ll bring anyone in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 21:07:49 GMT
Nichols, Clarke and Bennett 3 experienced pros all failing to make the top 20.
Two down one to go!
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Post by axegas on Aug 9, 2020 23:03:56 GMT
Great stats, IVFK.. Thanks for posting. May I be the first to issue Mr Upson my wholehearted apologies for being the only poster underrating him.. Up until GC departed, I thought he was contender for player of the season! The best form in his time with us.. But apologies, Mr Upson your 5 mom awards by us are thoroughly justified. I find it interesting only one underrated TN? It shows what a mixed season Upson had that he got the second highest amount of motm's yet finished behind a lot of players with a 6.08 rating. If we can get the Upson under Coughlan back with us next season we've got an excellent ball playing midfielder on our hands if we get the Upson under Garner after Christmas, we have a liability. |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 10, 2020 11:47:36 GMT
Great stats, IVFK.. Thanks for posting. May I be the first to issue Mr Upson my wholehearted apologies for being the only poster underrating him.. Up until GC departed, I thought he was contender for player of the season! The best form in his time with us.. But apologies, Mr Upson your 5 mom awards by us are thoroughly justified. I find it interesting only one underrated TN? To be honest, you were only 0.1 off of the average rating for Upson when others underrated him by more. He shows up for you because your ratings are almost entirely higher than other posters. The reason that not many appear to have underrated Nichols is because he got pretty unanimously poor ratings from almost all posters. The names who appear multiple times (Little, Clarke) are ones that divided opinions. |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 10, 2020 12:12:50 GMT
Some other interesting bits and pieces from these stats.
There were 535 ratings in league matches which was on track to beat the record from 2018/19 of 643 before the lockdown. There were a further 103 ratings in Cup games, a massive increase compared to 11, 30, 48, 32 and 35 in the previous five seasons.
The average rating for a league game was 6.07. This was 6.26 in the first 19 league games under Coughlan. In the 16 league games post-Coughlan (including games under Maher as caretaker and when Garner was on special leave) this was 5.74. This context is important when looking at the relatively poor average ratings of players like Ginnelly and Mitchell-Lawson who played in that latter period. It is also worth considering how low ratings for players like Jaakkola, Davies and Nichols might have dropped had they played more in the second half of the season. This is where the Average Difference measure is more important.
The highest rated starting XI average was 7.57 for the Oxford home game. The highest rated away game was the 7.51 at Ipswich.
The lowest rated starting XI average was 2.76 for the Coventry away FA Cup tie. The lowest in the league was 3.95 for Rotherham away, narrowly worse than the 3.96 for the Bolton home game.
Tony Craig's 10 runner-up awards was the most by any player in a single season. It took his total number of runner-up awards to 24 (in 108 matches), more than any other player in these threads.
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 10, 2020 12:45:28 GMT
Interesting that Upson got the joint second highest number of MOTM performances but is still a player that many wouldn't mind being shown the door.
Top work by the way I Voted For Kodos.
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