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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 12:16:44 GMT
This. I however have no sympathy for Corbyn. He set himself up as leader and did not lead. He allowed the right wing press to play him by A) Not publicly putting down Anti Semitism in his party immediately B) Not disassociating himself from remarks about Hamas, by clarification as a minimum C) Not taking a position on Brexit, either way. The bottom line is he is not a leader and he surrounded himself with middle class school boys who formulated policy and tactics. This does not make Johnson right, far from it. He has surrounded himself with populist alt right neo cons like Cummings. Yes, there are some fair points there that weren’t addressed. I still don’t think he deserved the level that he got though and I would say that about anyone. For me, an election should be a gentlemanly business where the policies speak for themselves and leaders challenge each other in intellectual debate but with the advent of social media and advertising on steroids it’s being brought down to the level of an egg and spoon race where it’s win at all costs and tripping your opponent or barging into them is considered fair game. Well, there is no way that Corbyn would ever feature in an 'intellectual debate' is there  As for 'policies speaking for themselves' I think the British electorate fully understood Labour's policies, and soundly rejected them ! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 12:22:59 GMT
This. I however have no sympathy for Corbyn. He set himself up as leader and did not lead. He allowed the right wing press to play him by A) Not publicly putting down Anti Semitism in his party immediately B) Not disassociating himself from remarks about Hamas, by clarification as a minimum C) Not taking a position on Brexit, either way. The bottom line is he is not a leader and he surrounded himself with middle class school boys who formulated policy and tactics. This does not make Johnson right, far from it. He has surrounded himself with populist alt right neo cons like Cummings. Yes, there are some fair points there that weren’t addressed. I still don’t think he deserved the level that he got though and I would say that about anyone. For me, an election should be a gentlemanly business where the policies speak for themselves and leaders challenge each other in intellectual debate but with the advent of social media and advertising on steroids it’s being brought down to the level of an egg and spoon race where it’s win at all costs and tripping your opponent or barging into them is considered fair game. Sadly grabs for power these days are ugly. As Kier Starmer said this morning it's not the first time that anybody who opposes the Tories gets mud thrown at them. Just look who owns the Newspapers. Of course if the BBC and C4 dont play ball they get threatened with regulatory changes. It's always the Tories that do this. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 18, 2019 12:37:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 12:47:54 GMT
Emily Thornberry official declares Ha, ha, ha........she'd really connect with the voters won't she ! Multi-millionaire North London MP wants to take over from another multi-millionaire North London MP, to lead the Worker's Party to glory ! Next up, Sir Kier Starmer, another multi-millionaire North London MP will throw his hat in the ring! They'll keep the Red Flag flying high ! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 12:59:58 GMT
Yes, there are some fair points there that weren’t addressed. I still don’t think he deserved the level that he got though and I would say that about anyone. For me, an election should be a gentlemanly business where the policies speak for themselves and leaders challenge each other in intellectual debate but with the advent of social media and advertising on steroids it’s being brought down to the level of an egg and spoon race where it’s win at all costs and tripping your opponent or barging into them is considered fair game. Well, there is no way that Corbyn would ever feature in an 'intellectual debate' is there As for 'policies speaking for themselves' I think the British electorate fully understood Labour's policies, and soundly rejected them ! Exactly, which is what makes the bot networks, disinformation and posters inferring paedophilia so ugly- it was all so unnecessary. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 18, 2019 13:03:35 GMT
Emily Thornberry official declares Ha, ha, ha........she'd really connect with the voters won't she ! Multi-millionaire North London MP wants to take over from another multi-millionaire North London MP, to lead the Worker's Party to glory ! Next up, Sir Kier Starmer, another multi-millionaire North London MP will throw his hat in the ring! They'll keep the Red Flag flying high ! I thought the workers liked a bit of that these days? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 18, 2019 13:07:26 GMT
Emily Thornberry official declares Needs to be a woman so she ticks that one, but should be from outside of London in order to reconnect. Missed PMQs but just caught Richard Bergan was on Politics Live making himself look even more of a prat. Considering the Deputy role and backs RLB. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 13:27:24 GMT
Emily Thornberry official declares Ha, ha, ha........she'd really connect with the voters won't she ! Multi-millionaire North London MP wants to take over from another multi-millionaire North London MP, to lead the Worker's Party to glory ! Next up, Sir Kier Starmer, another multi-millionaire North London MP will throw his hat in the ring! They'll keep the Red Flag flying high ! Her father was... Cedric Henry Reid Thornberry was a Northern Irish international lawyer and Assistant-Secretary-General of the United Nations, for which he worked for 17 years. He spent most of his United Nations service in international peace keeping in Cyprus, the Middle East, the former Yugoslavia and Somalia. Kier Starmer's father was He was a toolmaker by trade and used his engineering skills to help his wife, Jo, when her mobility became impaired, creating a modified wheelchair in which he could push her up the lake district climbs Now let's scan the Tory Front bench leadership for their contribution to society....Johnson, Rees Mogg...dont make me laugh |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 13:48:46 GMT
Ha, ha, ha........she'd really connect with the voters won't she ! Multi-millionaire North London MP wants to take over from another multi-millionaire North London MP, to lead the Worker's Party to glory ! Next up, Sir Kier Starmer, another multi-millionaire North London MP will throw his hat in the ring! They'll keep the Red Flag flying high ! I thought the workers liked a bit of that these days? Ho ho ho, I see what you did there |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 18, 2019 16:44:40 GMT
Ha, ha, ha........she'd really connect with the voters won't she ! Multi-millionaire North London MP wants to take over from another multi-millionaire North London MP, to lead the Worker's Party to glory ! Next up, Sir Kier Starmer, another multi-millionaire North London MP will throw his hat in the ring! They'll keep the Red Flag flying high ! Her father was... Cedric Henry Reid Thornberry was a Northern Irish international lawyer and Assistant-Secretary-General of the United Nations, for which he worked for 17 years. He spent most of his United Nations service in international peace keeping in Cyprus, the Middle East, the former Yugoslavia and Somalia. Kier Starmer's father was He was a toolmaker by trade and used his engineering skills to help his wife, Jo, when her mobility became impaired, creating a modified wheelchair in which he could push her up the lake district climbs Now let's scan the Tory Front bench leadership for their contribution to society....Johnson, Rees Mogg...dont make me laugh Rees Mogg shoots poor people for fun. Probably. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 18, 2019 16:46:04 GMT
He definitely voted against equal rights for gay marriage.
So there's that...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:42:28 GMT
He definitely voted against equal rights for gay marriage. So there's that... Besides being thick, socially inept, completely devoid of empathy and has contributed nothing to society ....he is also anti gay. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:48:55 GMT
He definitely voted against equal rights for gay marriage. So there's that... Besides being thick, socially inept, completely devoid of empathy and has contributed nothing to society ....he is also anti gay. Are you referring to the right honourable member for the 18th century? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 18:02:55 GMT
Besides being thick, socially inept, completely devoid of empathy and has contributed nothing to society ....he is also anti gay. Are you referring to the right honourable member for the 18th century? Is it that obvious? I will, personally, give Johnson 1/4 of 1% credit if he dumps him as leader of the house. |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 18, 2019 18:08:24 GMT
I like JRM, him and Borris make a brilliant team.
They'd take the World by storm given half a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 18:14:37 GMT
Are you referring to the right honourable member for the 18th century? Is it that obvious? I will, personally, give Johnson 1/4 of 1% credit if he dumps him as leader of the house. It will be the smallest olive branch in the history of humanity but it would be a start and potential intent to soften up the front bench. Despite his Grenfell comments and subsequent election lock down I expect he is still a big part of Boris’s inner circle going forward: |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 18:50:44 GMT
Christ, you lot are still going.
Let it go!
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 18, 2019 19:01:12 GMT
Christ, you lot are still going. Let it go! To be fair your net contribution to this thread is zero at best. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 19:11:41 GMT
Christ, you lot are still going. Let it go! To be fair your net contribution to this thread is zero at best. It was a shìte thread, you have to admit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 20:46:04 GMT
Emily Thornberry official declares That’s the white van man vote secured for the conservatives |
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As for 'policies speaking for themselves' I think the British electorate fully understood Labour's policies, and soundly rejected them !
