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Post by William Wilson on Nov 9, 2019 10:14:35 GMT
Sorry, Stuart, but I don`t agree. Yet you agreed with me in the past, some people are just so fickle 😎 I never said it was forever. |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 9, 2019 10:19:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 10:27:45 GMT
You think I am promoting labour? Not at all, personally I havent forgiven Corbyn for his and therefore Labour's stance at the referendum. If they had campaigned for Remain, we would have won and this shitfest avoided |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 9, 2019 10:39:29 GMT
I dont know whether to laugh or cry Tories promise to create 50million extra appointments a year to end the GP crisis flip.it/jhKQEMIn 2014/15 Jeremy lady garden pledged 5000 more GPs by 2020. The numbers to last year were actually 1700 down. (R4 interview with Hancock this morning) That was the point I was making in my post above. Promising 6,000 doctors and 50m GP appointment slots over 5 years, yet we are on course to lose 7,000 doctors and 55m GP slots over the same time according to the paper reviewers last night. If that is true, then this is a cut dressed up as investment. And don't forget the report on that girl being in a room without contact 24 hours a day being deferred until her dad pressed the minister on TV. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 10:43:39 GMT
I dont know whether to laugh or cry Tories promise to create 50million extra appointments a year to end the GP crisis flip.it/jhKQEMIn 2014/15 Jeremy lady garden pledged 5000 more GPs by 2020. The numbers to last year were actually 1700 down. (R4 interview with Hancock this morning) That was the point I was making in my post above. Promising 6,000 doctors and 50m GP appointment slots over 5 years, yet we are on course to lose 7,000 doctors and 55m GP slots over the same time according to the paper reviewers last night. If that is true, then this is a cut dressed up as investment. And don't forget the report on that girl being in a room without contact 24 hours a day being deferred until her dad pressed the minister on TV. Yes I know, we posted at the same time. You just articulated the point better than me.😉 |
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Post by althepirate on Nov 9, 2019 10:46:59 GMT
I'm a lifetime Labour voter and for the first time I'll be voting Tory. Why? Not because the Tories are great because they are not, but OMG look at the alternative. Corbyn made a speech where he gave the impression young people shouldn't have to work to get things. That is fundamentally wrong for the human being. Our self esteem relies on work and achievement not getting something for nothing. Yes the Tories smash the Unions and offer low paid wages, but each individual should rise to that challenge and get higher up the ladder. To say they can't do it is a reflection on them not the government. Corbyn and his promises of everything free for little effort just creates low self esteem, crime and a breakdown in society where people will want even more for even less effort. It won't work as it completely goes against how human beings function and create. As for the delusional Swinson well 17% sorry but it won't make you PM. So sadly the Tories imo are nearest to reality and that is why, quite incredibly, they will get my vote.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 9, 2019 10:56:43 GMT
I'm a lifetime Labour voter and for the first time I'll be voting Tory. Why? Not because the Tories are great because they are not, but OMG look at the alternative. Corbyn made a speech where he gave the impression young people shouldn't have to work to get things. That is fundamentally wrong for the human being. Our self esteem relies on work and achievement not getting something for nothing. Yes the Tories smash the Unions and offer low paid wages, but each individual should rise to that challenge and get higher up the ladder. To say they can't do it is a reflection on them not the government. Corbyn and his promises of everything free for little effort just creates low self esteem, crime and a breakdown in society where people will want even more for even less effort. It won't work as it completely goes against how human beings function and create. As for the delusional Swinson well 17% sorry but it won't make you PM. So sadly the Tories imo are nearest to reality and that is why, quite incredibly, they will get my vote. Yes, Tory policy has clearly worked over the last 10 years for self esteem of the individual and the collective. What a crock of absolute sh**e. |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 9, 2019 10:57:17 GMT
You think I am promoting labour? Not at all, personally I havent forgiven Corbyn for his and therefore Labour's stance at the referendum. If they had campaigned for Remain, we would have won and this shitfest avoided I don`t think you`re promoting Labour. Merely that it`s too early to start speculating that anyone is f*cked. Also, I`m not convinced that, even if Corbyn had campaigned for Remain, you would have won. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 9, 2019 10:59:39 GMT
That was the point I was making in my post above. Promising 6,000 doctors and 50m GP appointment slots over 5 years, yet we are on course to lose 7,000 doctors and 55m GP slots over the same time according to the paper reviewers last night. If that is true, then this is a cut dressed up as investment. And don't forget the report on that girl being in a room without contact 24 hours a day being deferred until her dad pressed the minister on TV. Yes I know, we posted at the same time. You just articulated the point better than me.😉 I know you knew, you knew I knew you know, I know.... 😁 So, in summary, we have a promise to spend £bns to recruit fewer doctors and police officers than we had. Look forward to an increase in army, navy and RAF numbers now. Not holding my breath. Teachers next? |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 9, 2019 11:01:12 GMT
I'm a lifetime Labour voter and for the first time I'll be voting Tory. Why? Not because the Tories are great because they are not, but OMG look at the alternative. Corbyn made a speech where he gave the impression young people shouldn't have to work to get things. That is fundamentally wrong for the human being. Our self esteem relies on work and achievement not getting something for nothing. Yes the Tories smash the Unions and offer low paid wages, but each individual should rise to that challenge and get higher up the ladder. To say they can't do it is a reflection on them not the government. Corbyn and his promises of everything free for little effort just creates low self esteem, crime and a breakdown in society where people will want even more for even less effort. It won't work as it completely goes against how human beings function and create. As for the delusional Swinson well 17% sorry but it won't make you PM. So sadly the Tories imo are nearest to reality and that is why, quite incredibly, they will get my vote. Yes, Tory policy has clearly worked over the last 10 years for self esteem of the individual and the collective. What a crock of absolute sh**e. It`s not a crock of absolute sh**te. It`s your opinion that it`s a crock of absolute sh**te. It`s my opinion that he`s 100% right. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 9, 2019 11:03:56 GMT
Yes, Tory policy has clearly worked over the last 10 years for self esteem of the individual and the collective. What a crock of absolute sh**e. It`s not a crock of absolute sh**te. It`s your opinion that it`s a crock of absolute sh**te. It`s my opinion that he`s 100% right. Its ok for people to have low wages because they should aspire to not be poor and if they are lucky one day they might not be. What an inspired system that is. Like I said, the British are only happy when there is someone more miserable than them. Aim higher. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 9, 2019 11:06:36 GMT
I'm a lifetime Labour voter and for the first time I'll be voting Tory. Why? Not because the Tories are great because they are not, but OMG look at the alternative. Corbyn made a speech where he gave the impression young people shouldn't have to work to get things. That is fundamentally wrong for the human being. Our self esteem relies on work and achievement not getting something for nothing. Yes the Tories smash the Unions and offer low paid wages, but each individual should rise to that challenge and get higher up the ladder. To say they can't do it is a reflection on them not the government. Corbyn and his promises of everything free for little effort just creates low self esteem, crime and a breakdown in society where people will want even more for even less effort. It won't work as it completely goes against how human beings function and create. As for the delusional Swinson well 17% sorry but it won't make you PM. So sadly the Tories imo are nearest to reality and that is why, quite incredibly, they will get my vote. Amateur psychologist in the house. Good grief. |
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Post by althepirate on Nov 9, 2019 11:06:55 GMT
I'm a lifetime Labour voter and for the first time I'll be voting Tory. Why? Not because the Tories are great because they are not, but OMG look at the alternative. Corbyn made a speech where he gave the impression young people shouldn't have to work to get things. That is fundamentally wrong for the human being. Our self esteem relies on work and achievement not getting something for nothing. Yes the Tories smash the Unions and offer low paid wages, but each individual should rise to that challenge and get higher up the ladder. To say they can't do it is a reflection on them not the government. Corbyn and his promises of everything free for little effort just creates low self esteem, crime and a breakdown in society where people will want even more for even less effort. It won't work as it completely goes against how human beings function and create. As for the delusional Swinson well 17% sorry but it won't make you PM. So sadly the Tories imo are nearest to reality and that is why, quite incredibly, they will get my vote. Yes, Tory policy has clearly worked over the last 10 years for self esteem of the individual and the collective. What a crock of absolute sh**e. Thank you. Your in depth answer and language. It says it all about what we will get instead of the Tories. Self esteem isn't about government policy it's about yourself. The world doesn't owe anyone a living although you may think it does, it doesn't. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 9, 2019 11:14:28 GMT
Yes, Tory policy has clearly worked over the last 10 years for self esteem of the individual and the collective. What a crock of absolute sh**e. Thank you. Your in depth answer and language. It says it all about what we will get instead of the Tories. Self esteem isn't about government policy it's about yourself. The world doesn't owe anyone a living although you may think it does, it doesn't. No, thank you Sigmund for your pseudo-intellectual nonsense about self esteem and possibly the most non-sensical posts on this section of the forum. I'm sure the three hundred thousand homeless people in the UK or those victims in the increase of infant mortality or the thousands of teachers in this country begging for financial support will really respect your bullshit about self esteem. I maintain, what a crock of sh**e. Suffering will set you free people. |
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Post by althepirate on Nov 9, 2019 12:17:49 GMT
Thank you. Your in depth answer and language. It says it all about what we will get instead of the Tories. Self esteem isn't about government policy it's about yourself. The world doesn't owe anyone a living although you may think it does, it doesn't. No, thank you Sigmund for your pseudo-intellectual nonsense about self esteem and possibly the most non-sensical posts on this section of the forum. I'm sure the three hundred thousand homeless people in the UK or those victims in the increase of infant mortality or the thousands of teachers in this country begging for financial support will really respect your bullshit about self esteem. I maintain, what a crock of sh**e. Suffering will set you free people. Well there we have it folks, the alternative. All those will be so much better off under the everything's free parties. Great attitude you have too. I wish I could vote Tory twice now after listening to you. Good luck in your quest for effortless utopia. |
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Post by althepirate on Nov 9, 2019 12:35:10 GMT
It`s not a crock of absolute sh**te. It`s your opinion that it`s a crock of absolute sh**te. It`s my opinion that he`s 100% right. Its ok for people to have low wages because they should aspire to not be poor and if they are lucky one day they might not be. What an inspired system that is. Like I said, the British are only happy when there is someone more miserable than them. Aim higher. Exactly aim higher. This is what I'm saying. If a person is psychically and mentally healthy to work he can't expect the government to give him things. If he creates and gives to the government as opposed to taking and not giving anything back which one do you think feels better and happier? |
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Post by baggins on Nov 9, 2019 12:35:53 GMT
Thank you. Your in depth answer and language. It says it all about what we will get instead of the Tories. Self esteem isn't about government policy it's about yourself. The world doesn't owe anyone a living although you may think it does, it doesn't. No, thank you Sigmund for your pseudo-intellectual nonsense about self esteem and possibly the most non-sensical posts on this section of the forum. I'm sure the three hundred thousand homeless people in the UK or those victims in the increase of infant mortality or the thousands of teachers in this country begging for financial support will really respect your bullshit about self esteem. I maintain, what a crock of sh**e. Suffering will set you free people. They should get on their bike, find a job and work harder. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 13:50:14 GMT
Its ok for people to have low wages because they should aspire to not be poor and if they are lucky one day they might not be. What an inspired system that is. Like I said, the British are only happy when there is someone more miserable than them. Aim higher. Exactly aim higher. This is what I'm saying. If a person is psychically and mentally healthy to work he can't expect the government to give him things. If he creates and gives to the government as opposed to taking and not giving anything back which one do you think feels better and happier? Al, I dont believe you think that anyone wants to live "poor". There will always be wastrels, was ever thus, but the vast majority of people want the best life and living standard they can achieve. What we must do, surely, is remove the road blocks that prevent them from achieving their ambition. If you grow up in an area where schools are underfunded, terrible facilities, short of staff, teaching materials, what do you think the standard of educational attainment will be? What do you think the impact on their earnings potential will be? Similarly if, as a parent you are in a relatively low paying job causing extreme pressure on your ability to afford housing, if your local health authority does not have the resources to care for your family to a standard worthy of a top 6 by economy nation, if your kids education is as described above, what do you think the outcomes are likely to be? It's not about "giving" things to anyone, its whether as a society, one that can afford it, we believe in ensuring the basics of a civilised society are there for everyone, regardless of income. I believe those basics are Housing, Health and Education. Take care of that, the rest takes care of itself. The Tories have *ed Housing, Health and Education. Vote for them and get the opposite of what you wish for. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 14:07:17 GMT
Run Rabbit, run. Sixth form pupils confined to room during Boris Johnson school visit flip.it/a26Wg7 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 14:17:40 GMT
I'm a lifetime Labour voter and for the first time I'll be voting Tory. Why? Not because the Tories are great because they are not, but OMG look at the alternative. Corbyn made a speech where he gave the impression young people shouldn't have to work to get things. That is fundamentally wrong for the human being. Our self esteem relies on work and achievement not getting something for nothing. Yes the Tories smash the Unions and offer low paid wages, but each individual should rise to that challenge and get higher up the ladder. To say they can't do it is a reflection on them not the government. Corbyn and his promises of everything free for little effort just creates low self esteem, crime and a breakdown in society where people will want even more for even less effort. It won't work as it completely goes against how human beings function and create. As for the delusional Swinson well 17% sorry but it won't make you PM. So sadly the Tories imo are nearest to reality and that is why, quite incredibly, they will get my vote. Yes, Tory policy has clearly worked over the last 10 years for self esteem of the individual and the collective. What a crock of absolute sh**e. Althepirate made a reasonable case there. He explained his reasoning and why he will vote the way he will.......and your response is "what a crock of absolute sh1t". Well done Officer, well done. |
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