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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 18:19:40 GMT
I know polls should have a health warning but I thought this was interesting in terms ov the significance of the age profile. "The YouGov result reveals that Labour remain ahead among all age categories under 50, while the Tories are ahead among those aged 50 or older. Among 18-24 year olds, Labour has a 34-point advantage, while among 25-49 year olds, they have a 6% advantage. However, among 50 to 64 year olds the Tories have a 23-point lead, while among 65 and over the Tories have a 48-point lead. Just 14% of voters aged 65 and older say they will vote Labour, compared with 30% of the voting population as a whole." news.sky.com/story/general-election-11865006Dam shoot the old bastards... Oh, hang on 🤣🤣🤣🤣🏌️♂️🐾
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 18:25:19 GMT
Important Does Annalise Dodds have the worst hair style in the UK? Asking for William Wilson who finds these things interesting.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 19, 2019 19:20:43 GMT
We are a country divided by AGE !. The poll of polls have 18-24 year old a 34% massive lead for LABOUR . However: 65 years and over 48% Tory Hammering. The grey vote held by pensioners and daily mail readers are 14% ahead which is roughly the lead the Tory's have in the poll of poll.
When people say " The older generation are Tories " it isn't an assumption but true based on Sky and other Tory supporting media backers..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 20:01:18 GMT
We are a country divided by AGE !. The poll of polls have 18-24 year old a 34% massive lead for LABOUR . However: 65 years and over 48% Tory Hammering. The grey vote held by pensioners and daily mail readers are 14% ahead which is roughly the lead the Tory's have in the poll of poll. When people say " The older generation are Tories " it isn't an assumption but true based on Sky and other Tory supporting media backers.. This was already posted. If you are "Old" oldmarket gas that's forgivable, just. If you are young (under 40) not so.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 20:56:30 GMT
Anyone watch the "debate" tonight?
Ffs, what an effing choice. I cannot recall two weaker, more pathetic party leaders.
Beam me up Scottie.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2019 21:04:23 GMT
Anyone watch the "debate" tonight? Ffs, what an effing choice. I cannot recall two weaker, more pathetic party leaders. Beam me up Scottie. I could only bring myself to watch the first part, that was enough for me. The best bit was Julie Etchingham asking if Boris Johnson was confident enough to mint a coin. How did this proud country come to this?!?!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 21:05:37 GMT
The audience started laughing at Corbyn when he refused to answer the question.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 21:07:06 GMT
We are a country divided by AGE !. The poll of polls have 18-24 year old a 34% massive lead for LABOUR . However: 65 years and over 48% Tory Hammering. The grey vote held by pensioners and daily mail readers are 14% ahead which is roughly the lead the Tory's have in the poll of poll. When people say " The older generation are Tories " it isn't an assumption but true based on Sky and other Tory supporting media backers.. You seem to have missed out those aged from 24 to 65! A fair ole chunk of the electorate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 21:38:43 GMT
Anyone watch the "debate" tonight? Ffs, what an effing choice. I cannot recall two weaker, more pathetic party leaders. Beam me up Scottie. I could only bring myself to watch the first part, that was enough for me. The best bit was Julie Etchingham asking if Boris Johnson was confident enough to mint a coin. How did this proud country come to this?!?! It's so depressing. Dumb and Dummer.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 19, 2019 22:05:26 GMT
I enjoyed the audience laughter when the trust question came up and Johnson said well look at what I've said and what I've done.
Couple of very weak contenders on there tonight. Corbyn edged it for me.
Dont understand why he has to say whether he would campaign for leave or remain. The idea is he presents two actual real life options and the public decide between them. Seems like a straw man argument to me designed to trap him in to a paradox which isnt really relevant at all.
Politics is wrecked. People love being lied to. They were cheering it. They've all been conned and they cant see the confidence trick.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2019 22:37:13 GMT
If their message is so good, why do they need to do this? 🙄 www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50482637Fact-checking agency FullFact said in a statement: "It is inappropriate and misleading for the Conservative press office to rename their twitter account 'factcheckUK' during this debate. "Please do not mistake it for an independent fact checking service such as FullFact, FactCheck or FactCheckNI." Conservative Party chairman James Cleverly defended the rebranding.
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Post by aghast on Nov 19, 2019 22:37:26 GMT
Very odd debate. Neither were very inspiring.
All I know is that a Tory vote means leaving the EU and lots and lots of public spending, and a Labour vote means another referendum and lots and lots and lots of public spending.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2019 23:04:48 GMT
Nice summary, battle of the least worst. Interesting that ITV twitter poll has Corbyn winning by a good margin.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 23:09:46 GMT
I know polls should have a health warning but I thought this was interesting in terms ov the significance of the age profile. "The YouGov result reveals that Labour remain ahead among all age categories under 50, while the Tories are ahead among those aged 50 or older. Among 18-24 year olds, Labour has a 34-point advantage, while among 25-49 year olds, they have a 6% advantage. However, among 50 to 64 year olds the Tories have a 23-point lead, while among 65 and over the Tories have a 48-point lead. Just 14% of voters aged 65 and older say they will vote Labour, compared with 30% of the voting population as a whole." news.sky.com/story/general-election-11865006Bloody baby boomers clinging on to the good old days for dear life. It will be interesting to see if and how this changes as they all leave us. Are today’s youth the story voters of tomorrow or could we see the slow terminal decline of the Tory party?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 23:12:13 GMT
It's getting crazier... "Mr McDonnell confirmed Labour will milk shares from firms with more than 250 staff. Companies will have to put 10 per cent of shares over time into a fund for workers. The government will also take a cut. He said: 'In line with our commitment to building a stakeholder economy we aim to broaden the ownership base of UK businesses to give workers more of a stake in their company. 'There is evidence to show that this not only advances long-term decision making but also boosts productivity. 'We have announced the introduction of Inclusive Ownership Funds in which larger companies will be required to transfer 1 per cent of their shares into an employee fund until the fund owns 10 per cent of the company. 'Shares would be owned collectively by employees with dividend payments distributed up to a maximum of £500 per employee per year.' In another draconian restriction, Labour will introduce a 20 to 1 pay ratio between the highest and lowest paid employees in the public sector as well as companies bidding for public sector contracts. 'Mr McDonnell said: 'We will bring in a 20:1 pay ratio between lowest and highest paid employees in the public sector. 'We will also move towards a 20:1 pay ratio between lowest and highest paid employees in companies bidding for public sector contracts. 'A 20:1 ratio means someone earning the living wage, just over £16,000 a year, would permit an executive to be earning nearly £350,000.' Mr McDonnell also promised that he would stop the 'Big Four' accountancy firms acting 'like a cartel'. 'Audits are vitally important for determining corporate accountability,' he said. 'The dominance of the Big 4 major accountancy firms means that, according to a report by the House of Commons Library, auditors are unable to deliver independent and robust audits, and the auditing industry lacks competition. 'They are now too big to fail. Auditing firms have a variety of conflicts of interest. 'They must win and retain engagements from companies in order to generate revenue, but at the same time objectively scrutinize the company's reports.' He added: 'Under Labour, the Big Four firms will not be allowed to continue to act like a cartel. 'The audit business of accounting firms should be structurally separate, and auditors prevented from selling any non-auditing services. 'Labour will establish a new statutory body to conduct audits.' Mr McDonnell renewed his threat to kick companies that do not meet climate change targets out of the UK stock exchange. 'Business bodies are calling for companies to improve climate related financial reporting and for all companies to bring forward decarbonisation plans,' he said. 'For those companies not taking adequate steps under Labour they will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange.' " And We can all vote against some, maybe all, some of the manifesto pledges. What we can do is judge the Tories on what they have actually done 1. Doubled the national debt. 2. Overseen a very large increase in homelessness 3. Overseen a very large increase in the number of families having to use food banks. 4. Have families and children forced to live in containers. 5. Spent £174 million on land to build houses they never did 6. Spent £100 million on Brexit advertising. 7. Minted a sh** load of 50p pieces celebrating a Brexit they did not deliver and now have melted them down. 8. Have a leader, who replaced a dysfunctional robot, who shags pole dancers using public money.(Allegedly) 9. A leader who has children by multiple partners and cares for none of them (allegedly) 10 A leader who spent £40million (as best I recall) on a proposed bridge in London he never built. 11. Leads a cabinet which actually believes the Laffer Curve is real. Ok, out of breath now...but f**k me, justify voting for that? Notwithstanding the fact that Nobby points out this happens in North Korea, so why are we complaining. Don’t forget lowering corporation tax from 28% to 19% and wanting to lower it further to 17% at a time of rampant inequality and austerity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 23:57:08 GMT
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 20, 2019 7:40:48 GMT
Important Does Annalise Dodds have the worst hair style in the UK? Asking for William Wilson who finds these things interesting. She`s Ray Parlour in drag.
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 20, 2019 8:01:20 GMT
I dont think stories like this can ever be insignificant. Over 700 people dying on the streets, homeless Children and families living in containers, over a million food parcels distributed. Welcome to Tory Britain. 'Ang on, where's me flag🤯 You do realise that homeless people die on the streets of practically every country in the world? It's an insolvable problem. On the streets in France, under the, er, right wing Macron administration. www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2019/11/how-french-student-setting-himself-alight-has-inspired-new-revolt
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 8:42:28 GMT
Yep, it's all over the world. That's alright then, that justifies us, in the UK, doing f**k all about it. You must be so proud. Wheres me flag.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 8:49:06 GMT
Twitter? Does anyone really give a feck about Twitter?
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