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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 19, 2019 12:07:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 13:29:36 GMT
Ten years of Tory rule. Good innit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 13:32:03 GMT
In the meantime this lot did this One Million Brexit Coins Melted Down After Johnson Misses Deadline flip.it/Mj2Q5P
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 13:33:56 GMT
Ten years of Tory rule. Good innit. In Labour get in these stories will pale into insignificance. Oldie- - Did you hear John McDowell say that companies will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange if they don't do as told? "John McDonnell called for companies to “improve” climate related financial reporting and “bring forward” decarbonisation plans. He then warned companies “not taking adequate steps under Labour” will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange." Are these people actually insane?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 13:35:13 GMT
In the meantime this lot did this One Million Brexit Coins Melted Down After Johnson Misses Deadline flip.it/Mj2Q5P"This lot" ? You mean Parliament?
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Post by peterparker on Nov 19, 2019 13:39:29 GMT
obviously this wont bite the PM on the ass
Boris Johnson says the chances of the UK coming out of the Brexit transition period without a trade deal in place are “absolutely zero”.
In an interview for BBC Local Radio, he is reminded of his insistence that the chances of a no-deal Brexit on 31 October were “a million to one.”
He says the chances of a “no deal” at the end of next year were “absolutely zero".
"Look, people said I couldn’t get a deal... look what we did, it’s ready to go," he says.
Would he rather "die in a ditch" or extend the transition period? Mr Johnson says: “it’s not going to be extended, there’s no need to do so.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 13:43:07 GMT
Ten years of Tory rule. Good innit. In Labour get in these stories will pale into insignificance. Oldie- - Did you hear John McDowell say that companies will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange if they don't do as told? "John McDonnell called for companies to “improve” climate related financial reporting and “bring forward” decarbonisation plans. He then warned companies “not taking adequate steps under Labour” will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange." Are these people actually insane? I dont think stories like this can ever be insignificant. Over 700 people dying on the streets, homeless Children and families living in containers, over a million food parcels distributed. Welcome to Tory Britain. 'Ang on, where's me flag🤯
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 13:48:31 GMT
obviously this wont bite the PM on the ass Boris Johnson says the chances of the UK coming out of the Brexit transition period without a trade deal in place are “absolutely zero”. In an interview for BBC Local Radio, he is reminded of his insistence that the chances of a no-deal Brexit on 31 October were “a million to one.” He says the chances of a “no deal” at the end of next year were “absolutely zero". "Look, people said I couldn’t get a deal... look what we did, it’s ready to go," he says. Would he rather "die in a ditch" or extend the transition period? Mr Johnson says: “it’s not going to be extended, there’s no need to do so.” It should be easy to get an FTA with the EU. The rules, laws and regulations are the same, so no problems there. The trade deficit (approx. 90 billion) means that the EU should be willing to get an FTA quickly, as any delays could hit their own manufacturers/suppliers. Most things the UK import from the EU can be sourced elsewhere in the world. Any delays to an FTA will just mean the UK looks elsewhere for those same goods.
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Post by baggins on Nov 19, 2019 13:49:06 GMT
obviously this wont bite the PM on the ass Boris Johnson says the chances of the UK coming out of the Brexit transition period without a trade deal in place are “absolutely zero”. In an interview for BBC Local Radio, he is reminded of his insistence that the chances of a no-deal Brexit on 31 October were “a million to one.” He says the chances of a “no deal” at the end of next year were “absolutely zero". "Look, people said I couldn’t get a deal... look what we did, it’s ready to go," he says. Would he rather "die in a ditch" or extend the transition period? Mr Johnson says: “it’s not going to be extended, there’s no need to do so.” Who the hell seriously believes a word that comes out this over privelaged idiots mouth? Oh yea, every Tory voter.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2019 13:52:03 GMT
obviously this wont bite the PM on the ass Boris Johnson says the chances of the UK coming out of the Brexit transition period without a trade deal in place are “absolutely zero”. In an interview for BBC Local Radio, he is reminded of his insistence that the chances of a no-deal Brexit on 31 October were “a million to one.” He says the chances of a “no deal” at the end of next year were “absolutely zero". "Look, people said I couldn’t get a deal... look what we did, it’s ready to go," he says. Would he rather "die in a ditch" or extend the transition period? Mr Johnson says: “it’s not going to be extended, there’s no need to do so.” It should be easy to get an FTA with the EU. The rules, laws and regulations are the same, so no problems there. The trade deficit (approx. 90 billion) means that the EU should be willing to get an FTA quickly, as any delays could hit their own manufacturers/suppliers. Most things the UK import from the EU can be sourced elsewhere in the world. Any delays to an FTA will just mean the UK looks elsewhere for those same goods. Copied and pasted from a 2016 post, per chance?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2019 13:55:50 GMT
It's said that people become more right wing as they get older, something about if you don't vote socialist by 18 you have no heart, if you don't vote Tory by 40 you have no head. For ne, while the journey isn't as pronounced, after the last 10 years or so I am moving slowly the 'wrong' way.
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 19, 2019 13:59:41 GMT
Ten years of Tory rule. Good innit. I well remember the last time a hard left government was in charge in this country, and I tell you this, if we`d had a Corbyn administration for the last ten years, the child would still be homeless and hungry. The only difference would be; she wouldn`t be able to read or write either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 13:59:48 GMT
In Labour get in these stories will pale into insignificance. Oldie- - Did you hear John McDowell say that companies will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange if they don't do as told? "John McDonnell called for companies to “improve” climate related financial reporting and “bring forward” decarbonisation plans. He then warned companies “not taking adequate steps under Labour” will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange." Are these people actually insane? I dont think stories like this can ever be insignificant. Over 700 people dying on the streets, homeless Children and families living in containers, over a million food parcels distributed. Welcome to Tory Britain. 'Ang on, where's me flag🤯 You do realise that homeless people die on the streets of practically every country in the world? It's an insolvable problem. You do realise that there are food banks in every country in the EU? Try Eurofoodbank The Trussell Trust, who are the main food bank company in the UK, opened their first UK foodbank in 2000, when Labour were in power? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that these are good things, but it is wrong and unfair to label these problems as 'Tory' problems. Anyway, with your recent bomb scare story did you yourself put money before human life? Maybe you should take a long hard look in the mirror?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 14:00:25 GMT
It should be easy to get an FTA with the EU. The rules, laws and regulations are the same, so no problems there. The trade deficit (approx. 90 billion) means that the EU should be willing to get an FTA quickly, as any delays could hit their own manufacturers/suppliers. Most things the UK import from the EU can be sourced elsewhere in the world. Any delays to an FTA will just mean the UK looks elsewhere for those same goods. Copied and pasted from a 2016 post, per chance? Nope.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2019 14:09:23 GMT
Copied and pasted from a 2016 post, per chance? Nope. Not literally, of course, but the sentiment is very reminiscent of the "leaving is easy, German cars, Italian prosecco, we buy more from them..." It won't take 7-10 years but unless some holding arrangements are put into place, then it won't be by December 2020. The other option is to accept the same terms, which flies against the trade reasons for leaving. Until this is resolved, we won't know our tariff and quota share of our EU membership so other trade deals will be on hold until then (except short term temporary deals). Brexit won't stop on 31 January.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 14:16:12 GMT
It's getting crazier...
"Mr McDonnell confirmed Labour will milk shares from firms with more than 250 staff. Companies will have to put 10 per cent of shares over time into a fund for workers. The government will also take a cut. He said: 'In line with our commitment to building a stakeholder economy we aim to broaden the ownership base of UK businesses to give workers more of a stake in their company. 'There is evidence to show that this not only advances long-term decision making but also boosts productivity. 'We have announced the introduction of Inclusive Ownership Funds in which larger companies will be required to transfer 1 per cent of their shares into an employee fund until the fund owns 10 per cent of the company. 'Shares would be owned collectively by employees with dividend payments distributed up to a maximum of £500 per employee per year.' In another draconian restriction, Labour will introduce a 20 to 1 pay ratio between the highest and lowest paid employees in the public sector as well as companies bidding for public sector contracts. 'Mr McDonnell said: 'We will bring in a 20:1 pay ratio between lowest and highest paid employees in the public sector. 'We will also move towards a 20:1 pay ratio between lowest and highest paid employees in companies bidding for public sector contracts. 'A 20:1 ratio means someone earning the living wage, just over £16,000 a year, would permit an executive to be earning nearly £350,000.' Mr McDonnell also promised that he would stop the 'Big Four' accountancy firms acting 'like a cartel'. 'Audits are vitally important for determining corporate accountability,' he said. 'The dominance of the Big 4 major accountancy firms means that, according to a report by the House of Commons Library, auditors are unable to deliver independent and robust audits, and the auditing industry lacks competition. 'They are now too big to fail. Auditing firms have a variety of conflicts of interest. 'They must win and retain engagements from companies in order to generate revenue, but at the same time objectively scrutinize the company's reports.' He added: 'Under Labour, the Big Four firms will not be allowed to continue to act like a cartel. 'The audit business of accounting firms should be structurally separate, and auditors prevented from selling any non-auditing services. 'Labour will establish a new statutory body to conduct audits.' Mr McDonnell renewed his threat to kick companies that do not meet climate change targets out of the UK stock exchange. 'Business bodies are calling for companies to improve climate related financial reporting and for all companies to bring forward decarbonisation plans,' he said. 'For those companies not taking adequate steps under Labour they will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange.' "
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 14:17:19 GMT
Not literally, of course, but the sentiment is very reminiscent of the "leaving is easy, German cars, Italian prosecco, we buy more from them..." It won't take 7-10 years but unless some holding arrangements are put into place, then it won't be by December 2020. The other option is to accept the same terms, which flies against the trade reasons for leaving. Until this is resolved, we won't know our tariff and quota share of our EU membership so other trade deals will be on hold until then (except short term temporary deals). Brexit won't stop on 31 January. The sentiment is the same because nothing has really changed regarding an FTA. Parliament has just wasted 3.5 years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 17:32:24 GMT
I dont think stories like this can ever be insignificant. Over 700 people dying on the streets, homeless Children and families living in containers, over a million food parcels distributed. Welcome to Tory Britain. 'Ang on, where's me flag🤯 You do realise that homeless people die on the streets of practically every country in the world? It's an insolvable problem. You do realise that there are food banks in every country in the EU? Try Eurofoodbank The Trussell Trust, who are the main food bank company in the UK, opened their first UK foodbank in 2000, when Labour were in power? Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that these are good things, but it is wrong and unfair to label these problems as 'Tory' problems. Anyway, with your recent bomb scare story did you yourself put money before human life? Maybe you should take a long hard look in the mirror? objection M'Lord Crass deflection
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2019 17:45:05 GMT
It's getting crazier... "Mr McDonnell confirmed Labour will milk shares from firms with more than 250 staff. Companies will have to put 10 per cent of shares over time into a fund for workers. The government will also take a cut. He said: 'In line with our commitment to building a stakeholder economy we aim to broaden the ownership base of UK businesses to give workers more of a stake in their company. 'There is evidence to show that this not only advances long-term decision making but also boosts productivity. 'We have announced the introduction of Inclusive Ownership Funds in which larger companies will be required to transfer 1 per cent of their shares into an employee fund until the fund owns 10 per cent of the company. 'Shares would be owned collectively by employees with dividend payments distributed up to a maximum of £500 per employee per year.' In another draconian restriction, Labour will introduce a 20 to 1 pay ratio between the highest and lowest paid employees in the public sector as well as companies bidding for public sector contracts. 'Mr McDonnell said: 'We will bring in a 20:1 pay ratio between lowest and highest paid employees in the public sector. 'We will also move towards a 20:1 pay ratio between lowest and highest paid employees in companies bidding for public sector contracts. 'A 20:1 ratio means someone earning the living wage, just over £16,000 a year, would permit an executive to be earning nearly £350,000.' Mr McDonnell also promised that he would stop the 'Big Four' accountancy firms acting 'like a cartel'. 'Audits are vitally important for determining corporate accountability,' he said. 'The dominance of the Big 4 major accountancy firms means that, according to a report by the House of Commons Library, auditors are unable to deliver independent and robust audits, and the auditing industry lacks competition. 'They are now too big to fail. Auditing firms have a variety of conflicts of interest. 'They must win and retain engagements from companies in order to generate revenue, but at the same time objectively scrutinize the company's reports.' He added: 'Under Labour, the Big Four firms will not be allowed to continue to act like a cartel. 'The audit business of accounting firms should be structurally separate, and auditors prevented from selling any non-auditing services. 'Labour will establish a new statutory body to conduct audits.' Mr McDonnell renewed his threat to kick companies that do not meet climate change targets out of the UK stock exchange. 'Business bodies are calling for companies to improve climate related financial reporting and for all companies to bring forward decarbonisation plans,' he said. 'For those companies not taking adequate steps under Labour they will be delisted from the London Stock Exchange.' " And We can all vote against some, maybe all, some of the manifesto pledges. What we can do is judge the Tories on what they have actually done 1. Doubled the national debt. 2. Overseen a very large increase in homelessness 3. Overseen a very large increase in the number of families having to use food banks. 4. Have families and children forced to live in containers. 5. Spent £174 million on land to build houses they never did 6. Spent £100 million on Brexit advertising. 7. Minted a sh** load of 50p pieces celebrating a Brexit they did not deliver and now have melted them down. 8. Have a leader, who replaced a dysfunctional robot, who shags pole dancers using public money.(Allegedly) 9. A leader who has children by multiple partners and cares for none of them (allegedly) 10 A leader who spent £40million (as best I recall) on a proposed bridge in London he never built. 11. Leads a cabinet which actually believes the Laffer Curve is real. Ok, out of breath now...but f**k me, justify voting for that? Notwithstanding the fact that Nobby points out this happens in North Korea, so why are we complaining.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 19, 2019 18:17:47 GMT
I know polls should have a health warning but I thought this was interesting in terms ov the significance of the age profile. "The YouGov result reveals that Labour remain ahead among all age categories under 50, while the Tories are ahead among those aged 50 or older. Among 18-24 year olds, Labour has a 34-point advantage, while among 25-49 year olds, they have a 6% advantage. However, among 50 to 64 year olds the Tories have a 23-point lead, while among 65 and over the Tories have a 48-point lead. Just 14% of voters aged 65 and older say they will vote Labour, compared with 30% of the voting population as a whole." news.sky.com/story/general-election-11865006
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