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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 13:24:38 GMT
Rod Liddle what a Special lady garden What a lady garden indeed. Mind you, I think there is more than one person here who would have sympathy for Liddle's views. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 13:43:07 GMT
I recall Freud lamenting he never could figure out what women want, with that in mind he would have had absolutely no chance with Farage then.
So let’s recap: he thinks Boris’s deal is a disaster...yet he is willing to put country before party (whatever that means in the context of the Brexit party) and form an alliance with Boris to get a deal through that he doesn’t want? Is he so scared of Brexit being cancelled he is already prepared to accept a deal he doesn’t believe in? Or is the plan to get Boris enough of a majority that Boris is able to ditch his deal and go balls to the wall no deal?
Any idea what his motive is?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 1, 2019 13:47:23 GMT
I recall Freud lamenting he never could figure out what women want, with that in mind he would have had absolutely no chance with Farage then. So let’s recap: he thinks Boris’s deal is a disaster...yet he is willing to put country before party (whatever that means in the context of the Brexit party) and form an alliance with Boris to get a deal through that he doesn’t want? Is he so scared of Brexit being cancelled he is already prepared to accept a deal he doesn’t believe in? Or is the plan to get Boris enough of a majority that Boris is able to ditch his deal and go balls to the wall no deal? Any idea what his motive is? I can tell you WHO his motive is. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:10:29 GMT
I recall Freud lamenting he never could figure out what women want, with that in mind he would have had absolutely no chance with Farage then. So let’s recap: he thinks Boris’s deal is a disaster...yet he is willing to put country before party (whatever that means in the context of the Brexit party) and form an alliance with Boris to get a deal through that he doesn’t want? Is he so scared of Brexit being cancelled he is already prepared to accept a deal he doesn’t believe in? Or is the plan to get Boris enough of a majority that Boris is able to ditch his deal and go balls to the wall no deal? Any idea what his motive is? I can tell you WHO his motive is. B-b-b but he says he is putting the country first!!1 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:12:58 GMT
Also is this the same Nigel Farage who dislikes being part of Europe so much he has claimed German citizenship? Or are we talking about a different one?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:19:43 GMT
Also is this the same Nigel Farage who dislikes being part of Europe so much he has claimed German citizenship? Or are we talking about a different one? The very same. In fact the same bloke who claimed on LBC that people in London didnt like hearing "foreign" accents on the underground. And is married to a German lady. You couldn't make it. I have to confess to tempering my knowle West accent over the years, just to get by. In fairness and for balance. 😱😱😜😜 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:32:14 GMT
I recall Freud lamenting he never could figure out what women want, with that in mind he would have had absolutely no chance with Farage then. So let’s recap: he thinks Boris’s deal is a disaster...yet he is willing to put country before party (whatever that means in the context of the Brexit party) and form an alliance with Boris to get a deal through that he doesn’t want? Is he so scared of Brexit being cancelled he is already prepared to accept a deal he doesn’t believe in? Or is the plan to get Boris enough of a majority that Boris is able to ditch his deal and go balls to the wall no deal? Any idea what his motive is? I think the motive may be that he thinks that TBP could/maybe get enough seats in Parliament, and that the Tories may struggle to get a majority, that the Tories may need the support of TBP. The price of that support in the HoC would be around Brexit. Farage is no fool. He is not looking to form a government, but he is looking at the possibility of being the Kingmaker. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:33:04 GMT
Also is this the same Nigel Farage who dislikes being part of Europe so much he has claimed German citizenship? Or are we talking about a different one? No. His children have dual nationality. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 15:47:12 GMT
Farage is actually spot on. There are about 150 seats that the Tories will never win. The people there will never ever elect a Tory. However, many of them are unhappy with Labour, and TBP may offer an alternative. It makes sense for the Tories to step down in these seats, and if TBP put someone up like Claire Short, a proper Leftie, they may just win seats from Labour which the Tories would never be able to.
Farage was also clear that in seats where the sitting MP has supported Brexit, then TBP will NOT stand against them, like Bill Cash for example.
The Remain camp are making the same deals, where the Lib Dems and Greens are trying not to step on each others toes. I also believe the Lib Dems have approached labour to stand down in the Jacob Rees-Mogg constituency so they can have a clear run at beating him. Horse trading is going on everywhere behind closed doors.
The old way of doing things are changing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 16:19:17 GMT
Also is this the same Nigel Farage who dislikes being part of Europe so much he has claimed German citizenship? Or are we talking about a different one? No. His children have dual nationality. Ah it looks like his application for a German passport was just a rumour |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 16:24:38 GMT
I recall Freud lamenting he never could figure out what women want, with that in mind he would have had absolutely no chance with Farage then. So let’s recap: he thinks Boris’s deal is a disaster...yet he is willing to put country before party (whatever that means in the context of the Brexit party) and form an alliance with Boris to get a deal through that he doesn’t want? Is he so scared of Brexit being cancelled he is already prepared to accept a deal he doesn’t believe in? Or is the plan to get Boris enough of a majority that Boris is able to ditch his deal and go balls to the wall no deal? Any idea what his motive is? I think the motive may be that he thinks that TBP could/maybe get enough seats in Parliament, and that the Tories may struggle to get a majority, that the Tories may need the support of TBP. The price of that support in the HoC would be around Brexit. Farage is no fool. He is not looking to form a government, but he is looking at the possibility of being the Kingmaker. He has the same chance of forming a government as the Lib Dem’s. But I’m wondering what his aim is in trying to assist Johnson because surely he wants no deal whilst Boris is going to be wedded to his deal.... ...mind you that is an assumption and one thing you can’t do with the current government is make any assumptions. What are the chances of Boris binning his deal and going full on no deal if he gets a majority (especially one propped up by the Brexit party)? On that note it will be interesting what the Tories campaign message is, can people who want Brexit but not no deal trust Johnson if he says he will proceed with his deal should he win the election? So many ‘ifs’.... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 16:32:39 GMT
Farage is actually spot on. There are about 150 seats that the Tories will never win. The people there will never ever elect a Tory. However, many of them are unhappy with Labour, and TBP may offer an alternative. It makes sense for the Tories to step down in these seats, and if TBP put someone up like Claire Short, a proper Leftie, they may just win seats from Labour which the Tories would never be able to. Farage was also clear that in seats where the sitting MP has supported Brexit, then TBP will NOT stand against them, like Bill Cash for example. The Remain camp are making the same deals, where the Lib Dems and Greens are trying not to step on each others toes. I also believe the Lib Dems have approached labour to stand down in the Jacob Rees-Mogg constituency so they can have a clear run at beating him. Horse trading is going on everywhere behind closed doors. The old way of doing things are changing. There is no choice, it’s an election based on Brexit only and both sides know that it’s for keeps and so the stakes are the highest they’ve ever been- even more so than in 1997 because no-one knew what a sh** show it all was back then. It would be funny seeing Rees-Mogg turned over but how much head way can a greens/plaid/lib-dem pact make? They don’t want a Corbyn government and yet the most impact they can make is making it easier for Corbyn by taking a few seats off the Tories, surely? A Pyrrhic victory of ever there was. I expect it will turn out to be a similar result as 1997, more deadlock and so it will eventually result in another referendum where people are given definite choices about whether they still want Brexit and if so what type of Brexit they want. Should have just done that from the start imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 16:39:57 GMT
No. His children have dual nationality. Ah it looks like his application for a German passport was just a rumour You can't just apply for a German passport. You have to pass the citizenship test, which includes an oral exam. I have friends who have lived here for thirty years and who many consider to be pretty fluent in German, and some of them have been turned down ! Plus you have to provide evidence that you have lived in Germany for at least five years (I think it's five). There are also problems with dual nationality in Germany after Brexit. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 18:08:18 GMT
This "where the Brexit party had gathered to launch its general election campaign. Though the setting was low-key, the madness was off the scale, with levels of narcissism and delusion that made Boris Johnson look almost normal." Brexit party's delusion makes even Boris Johnson's look normal flip.it/VuUqIj |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 18:41:33 GMT
Ah it looks like his application for a German passport was just a rumour You can't just apply for a German passport. You have to pass the citizenship test, which includes an oral exam. I have friends who have lived here for thirty years and who many consider to be pretty fluent in German, and some of them have been turned down ! Plus you have to provide evidence that you have lived in Germany for at least five years (I think it's five). There are also problems with dual nationality in Germany after Brexit. Interesting...I have German and Polish heritage and my mother was going to apply for a German passport, I don’t think she realised that there is a test and it sounds ominous if long serving ex-pats have been turned down...is that because they don’t have German blood because I would wonder how Farage’s kids managed it otherwise... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 18:44:25 GMT
This "where the Brexit party had gathered to launch its general election campaign. Though the setting was low-key, the madness was off the scale, with levels of narcissism and delusion that made Boris Johnson look almost normal." Brexit party's delusion makes even Boris Johnson's look normal flip.it/VuUqIjWhen I think of a Brexit party conference I think of a naked remainer being released into the wild whilst being pursued by Farage and co. riding horses and wearing Burberry and/or wax jackets. How far away is that from the truth? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 18:56:51 GMT
You can't just apply for a German passport. You have to pass the citizenship test, which includes an oral exam. I have friends who have lived here for thirty years and who many consider to be pretty fluent in German, and some of them have been turned down ! Plus you have to provide evidence that you have lived in Germany for at least five years (I think it's five). There are also problems with dual nationality in Germany after Brexit. Interesting...I have German and Polish heritage and my mother was going to apply for a German passport, I don’t think she realised that there is a test and it sounds ominous if long serving ex-pats have been turned down...is that because they don’t have German blood because I would wonder how Farage’s kids managed it otherwise... Nothing to do with German blood. Thee are many new immigrants being given German Citizenship, and they only know a few words in German! I don't know anything about the Farage family and their background. I do understand that his ex-wife is German, so automatically their kids are 'German' in the same way that if you moved abroad and had kids they could automatically apply for a British Passport. So, his kids qualify for a German passport, but he doesn't. I know as I'm in the same boat  My son qualifies for a British passport, but my German wife doesn't. That's the way it works. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 18:59:53 GMT
This "where the Brexit party had gathered to launch its general election campaign. Though the setting was low-key, the madness was off the scale, with levels of narcissism and delusion that made Boris Johnson look almost normal." Brexit party's delusion makes even Boris Johnson's look normal flip.it/VuUqIjWhen I think of a Brexit party conference I think of a naked remainer being released into the wild whilst being pursued by Farage and co. riding horses and wearing Burberry and/or wax jackets. How far away is that from the truth?
I think wax cotton jackets are so 1980's/90's. Anyway, that sounds like a good tv programme in the making. Much better than the drivel dished up nowadays. I'd also like to see a Celebrity Russian Roulette tv programme. "six celebrities, one bullet! Who will not make it to next week"..... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 19:17:25 GMT
Interesting...I have German and Polish heritage and my mother was going to apply for a German passport, I don’t think she realised that there is a test and it sounds ominous if long serving ex-pats have been turned down...is that because they don’t have German blood because I would wonder how Farage’s kids managed it otherwise... Nothing to do with German blood. Thee are many new immigrants being given German Citizenship, and they only know a few words in German! I don't know anything about the Farage family and their background. I do understand that his ex-wife is German, so automatically their kids are 'German' in the same way that if you moved abroad and had kids they could automatically apply for a British Passport. So, his kids qualify for a German passport, but he doesn't. I know as I'm in the same boat My son qualifies for a British passport, but my German wife doesn't. That's the way it works. So my mother’s mother was wholly German using your logic that means my mother qualifies without needing to jump through so many hoops? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 19:38:18 GMT
Nothing to do with German blood. Thee are many new immigrants being given German Citizenship, and they only know a few words in German! I don't know anything about the Farage family and their background. I do understand that his ex-wife is German, so automatically their kids are 'German' in the same way that if you moved abroad and had kids they could automatically apply for a British Passport. So, his kids qualify for a German passport, but he doesn't. I know as I'm in the same boat My son qualifies for a British passport, but my German wife doesn't. That's the way it works. So my mother’s mother was wholly German using your logic that means my mother qualifies without needing to jump through so many hoops? I'll say yes, but as always who knows what the rules are regarding time passed. |
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My son qualifies for a British passport, but my German wife doesn't. That's the way it works.