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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 16:44:37 GMT
If Corbyn were to get in and bankrupt the country is the vote for his big spending now also a vote for the biggest period of austerity known to man in around five years time? BTW is your tactical vote likely to have any influence in your constituency? Bankrupt the country! Antisemitism! Venezuela! I dont believe any of it. Not a word. Standard Tory lies and scare tactics and they have plenty of form on that. How anyone could trust a single word from any of them literally beggars belief. Eric what's the difference between antisemitism and antizionism? Just out of interest, like. I'll leave you with your own words. 'The biggest period of austerity known to man in around 5 years time' Just think of that. I have thought of that. The cycle of a labour government maxing out our credit cards then the Tories having to come in and make cuts, following by an even bigger spending labour government then even tighter public spending by the Tories and so on doesn’t seem likely to serve the country well in the long term. Corbyn should be looking at why there are problem areas in the uk and seek to fix them rather than committing to an ill thought out spending spree with money thrown here there and everyone and solving nothing. I see there is no comment on the Tories “destroying the country”, “extreme right wing policies” and “Jumping in to bed with Trump”. Might want to start there if looking for standard lies and scare tactics? |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 3, 2019 17:17:05 GMT
It's the wealthy that will be worse off once Boris get BREXIT done apparently
and Boris, loveable straight talking buffoon
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 3, 2019 17:29:05 GMT
It's the wealthy that will be worse off once Boris get BREXIT done apparently
and Boris, loveable straight talking buffoon
Aging group of thick as sh** people believe MSM lies and disinformation shock horror. |
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Post by yetigas on Dec 3, 2019 17:43:08 GMT
How anyone can contemplate voting for the Tories led by Johnson is beyond me. His party has destroyed Britain since 2010 - lurching between incompetence and extreme right wing policies. To cap it all the whole Brexit debacle was instigated by Cameron to sort out his party and NOTHING to do with the national interest. Now we have the most untrustworthy leader of the Tories I can remember in my lifetime - and that's quite an achievement. The man can't open his mouth without spewing lies in every other sentence. Jumping into bed with Trump is a desperate measure to try and get some credibility after he takes us out of Europe - so if anyone genuinely feels we are better off being tied to the USA (for which read under the thumb of the US president) than being in EU then you are, with the greatest of respect, deluded. Apparently the British people are to be thanked for their resilience under the Tories totally unnecessary austerity policies. Well thank you Tories, I don't need your thanks - neither do those who have to rely on foodbanks and homeless shelters. And for those of you who seem to think Jeremy Corbyn's policies will crash the economy (I've read a few but don't have time to read 64 pages - too depressing) similar policies seem to be working pretty well in other countries like Sweden - but there again in Sweden I guess their leaders don't get to be called Marxists because they dare to support the 'have nots' of society. I long for the day when we can have a just society in this country rather than the Tories toxic politics of austerity and hate - but it seems we have a long, long way to go. How anyone could contemplate voting for a Jew hating friend of terrorists is beyond me. Each to their own. I vote for my local MP who is not Jeremy Corbyn so I assume you are referring to the good people of Islington. But if you meant the Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn, I absolutely can contemplate voting for them. Not sure where your evidence of 'Jew hating' comes from - presumably the well balanced (!) views of the Mail, Express, Sun, Torygraph - they have done an excellent hatchet job on Corbyn, but as always its based largely on lies. As for being a 'friend of terrorists' - o dear. Whats your definition of 'terrorist'? If you mean the organisations that support the Palestinian struggle against the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank - I would gently point out to you that if Israel was not acting illegally the Palestinians would be living peacefully on their land. You would do well to direct your anger at those who break international law. |
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Post by yetigas on Dec 3, 2019 17:58:38 GMT
How anyone can contemplate voting for the Tories led by Johnson is beyond me. His party has destroyed Britain since 2010 - lurching between incompetence and extreme right wing policies. To cap it all the whole Brexit debacle was instigated by Cameron to sort out his party and NOTHING to do with the national interest. Now we have the most untrustworthy leader of the Tories I can remember in my lifetime - and that's quite an achievement. The man can't open his mouth without spewing lies in every other sentence. Jumping into bed with Trump is a desperate measure to try and get some credibility after he takes us out of Europe - so if anyone genuinely feels we are better off being tied to the USA (for which read under the thumb of the US president) than being in EU then you are, with the greatest of respect, deluded. Apparently the British people are to be thanked for their resilience under the Tories totally unnecessary austerity policies. Well thank you Tories, I don't need your thanks - neither do those who have to rely on foodbanks and homeless shelters. And for those of you who seem to think Jeremy Corbyn's policies will crash the economy (I've read a few but don't have time to read 64 pages - too depressing) similar policies seem to be working pretty well in other countries like Sweden - but there again in Sweden I guess their leaders don't get to be called Marxists because they dare to support the 'have nots' of society. I long for the day when we can have a just society in this country rather than the Tories toxic politics of austerity and hate - but it seems we have a long, long way to go. Are you old enough to remember when a Labour Government had to go to the IMF for a loan because they had bankrupt the country? Denis Healey was the Chancellor. One of the requirements of the IMF giving that loan was that the Labour Government had to make swinging cuts in spending. Nowadays we'd call it Austerity. It's what you have to do when you have blown the national credit card. When the Tories took over in 2010, Labour had once again blown the national credit card ! As for hate, I see most of that being generated by the left-wing. Extreme right policies? You are having a laugh. There never has, nor most likely never will be, an extreme right wing government in the UK. That is pure sixth-form student talk. Sweden? Have you been there in the last couple of years? It's not the Utopia you seem to think it is. (a) 'When the Tories took over in 2010, Labour had once again blown the national credit card !' No, there was a global crash caused by greedy bankers - don't believe all you read from Tory central office. Actually don't believe anything they say (or their right wing media friends) (b)'As for hate, I see most of that being generated by the left-wing': in that case please open your eyes! who killed a labour MP before the Brexit vote? Which politician adopted a 'hostile environment' policy for immigration? Not sure what the hate the left have generated - do enlighten us. (c) 'There never has, nor most likely never will be, an extreme right wing government in the UK' its when extremism gets normalised that we should all be worried. The right wing media are quick to label Corbyn extremist, but fail to see (actually dont want to see) the extreme right wing elephant in the room. The collapse of UKIP/Brexit party is not because there cause has gone out of favour - their policies have simply been adopted by the Tories. (d) No country in the world is a utopia - but Sweden seems to run their country a lot better than we run ours (not difficult mind) - |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 3, 2019 18:25:42 GMT
I think ig was Peter Hitchens who said opinion polls are to influence rather than reflect the public mood, but I see the polls are narrowing with a 9 point lead and a week to go.
Expect the ramping up of the rhetoric and personal attacks. This could get interesting!!
Broadly speaking, 7% is needed for a majority with a hung parliament if lower although it isn't that simple as we know.
I read the other day that you can get odds of 6/1 on a Conservative majority but Boris losing in Uxbridge.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 18:34:24 GMT
How anyone could contemplate voting for a Jew hating friend of terrorists is beyond me. Each to their own. I vote for my local MP who is not Jeremy Corbyn so I assume you are referring to the good people of Islington. But if you meant the Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn, I absolutely can contemplate voting for them. Not sure where your evidence of 'Jew hating' comes from - presumably the well balanced (!) views of the Mail, Express, Sun, Torygraph - they have done an excellent hatchet job on Corbyn, but as always its based largely on lies. As for being a 'friend of terrorists' - o dear. Whats your definition of 'terrorist'? If you mean the organisations that support the Palestinian struggle against the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank - I would gently point out to you that if Israel was not acting illegally the Palestinians would be living peacefully on their land. You would do well to direct your anger at those who break international law. I tend to think the Chief Rabbi’s views would carry a bit of weight but if you want to pedal a myth that anyone anti-Corbyn is merely being manipulated by newspapers then carry on. As regards terrorists I can’t recall any other MP’s inviting IRA members into parliament as their guests - particularly crass when it was just weeks after that organisation had tried to murder the whole government and many were still being treated in hospital. Corbyn isnt stupid and clearly knew what he was doing and did not care one bit about the dead or injured, be that the intended Tory targets or innocent staff and bystanders. No matter what white lies may or may not have been told or what nocturnal shenanigans Boris gets up to he is way down the table from Corbyn in the vile human being stakes. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 18:39:49 GMT
Are you old enough to remember when a Labour Government had to go to the IMF for a loan because they had bankrupt the country? Denis Healey was the Chancellor. One of the requirements of the IMF giving that loan was that the Labour Government had to make swinging cuts in spending. Nowadays we'd call it Austerity. It's what you have to do when you have blown the national credit card. When the Tories took over in 2010, Labour had once again blown the national credit card ! As for hate, I see most of that being generated by the left-wing. Extreme right policies? You are having a laugh. There never has, nor most likely never will be, an extreme right wing government in the UK. That is pure sixth-form student talk. Sweden? Have you been there in the last couple of years? It's not the Utopia you seem to think it is. (a) 'When the Tories took over in 2010, Labour had once again blown the national credit card !' No, there was a global crash caused by greedy bankers - don't believe all you read from Tory central office. Actually don't believe anything they say (or their right wing media friends) (b)'As for hate, I see most of that being generated by the left-wing': in that case please open your eyes! who killed a labour MP before the Brexit vote? Which politician adopted a 'hostile environment' policy for immigration? Not sure what the hate the left have generated - do enlighten us. (c) 'There never has, nor most likely never will be, an extreme right wing government in the UK' its when extremism gets normalised that we should all be worried. The right wing media are quick to label Corbyn extremist, but fail to see (actually dont want to see) the extreme right wing elephant in the room. The collapse of UKIP/Brexit party is not because there cause has gone out of favour - their policies have simply been adopted by the Tories. (d) No country in the world is a utopia - but Sweden seems to run their country a lot better than we run ours (not difficult mind) - So the note that the labour treasury minister left saying good luck there is no money left was presumably a cunning Tory forgery? Glad they could see the funny side of the state they had put the country in. I didn’t |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 3, 2019 18:47:53 GMT
How anyone could contemplate voting for a Jew hating friend of terrorists is beyond me. Each to their own. I vote for my local MP who is not Jeremy Corbyn so I assume you are referring to the good people of Islington. But if you meant the Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn, I absolutely can contemplate voting for them. Not sure where your evidence of 'Jew hating' comes from - presumably the well balanced (!) views of the Mail, Express, Sun, Torygraph - they have done an excellent hatchet job on Corbyn, but as always its based largely on lies. As for being a 'friend of terrorists' - o dear. Whats your definition of 'terrorist'? If you mean the organisations that support the Palestinian struggle against the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank - I would gently point out to you that if Israel was not acting illegally the Palestinians would be living peacefully on their land. You would do well to direct your anger at those who break international law. Well said yetgas 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 19:09:36 GMT
I vote for my local MP who is not Jeremy Corbyn so I assume you are referring to the good people of Islington. But if you meant the Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn, I absolutely can contemplate voting for them. Not sure where your evidence of 'Jew hating' comes from - presumably the well balanced (!) views of the Mail, Express, Sun, Torygraph - they have done an excellent hatchet job on Corbyn, but as always its based largely on lies. As for being a 'friend of terrorists' - o dear. Whats your definition of 'terrorist'? If you mean the organisations that support the Palestinian struggle against the illegal Israeli occupation of the West Bank - I would gently point out to you that if Israel was not acting illegally the Palestinians would be living peacefully on their land. You would do well to direct your anger at those who break international law. Well said yetgas 👍 Another one who who wants to dismiss the fears of the Jewish community and Chief Rabbi and pretend Corbyn has never had any link whatsoever to the IRA? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 19:26:24 GMT
If Corbyn were to get in and bankrupt the country is the vote for his big spending now also a vote for the biggest period of austerity known to man in around five years time? BTW is your tactical vote likely to have any influence in your constituency? In my opinion he would only get in with a coalition which will restrain some of the extreme spending promises, as will time which will be shorter than a majority government would have, so he won't bankrupt the country in the way you may fear. As for my constituency, yes it may. Jack Lopresti's constituency which has Labour in second place so 'loaning' my vote may help if others do too. I have also changed my mind. Going to vote labour. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 19:27:47 GMT
In my opinion he would only get in with a coalition which will restrain some of the extreme spending promises, as will time which will be shorter than a majority government would have, so he won't bankrupt the country in the way you may fear. As for my constituency, yes it may. Jack Lopresti's constituency which has Labour in second place so 'loaning' my vote may help if others do too. I have also changed my mind. Going to vote labour. Thank God for that as you always seem to be on the losing side  |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 3, 2019 19:46:15 GMT
I have also changed my mind. Going to vote labour. Thank God for that as you always seem to be on the losing side I know that was posted in jest but it is not a case of Labour winning, it is retaining enough northern seats to prevent a Conservative majority. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 20:04:51 GMT
That's Labour's false attack line gone for a burton then..................Praise to the Lord, 'Our NHS' is saved yet again !
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 3, 2019 20:07:05 GMT
That's Labour's false attack line gone for a burton then..................Praise to the Lord, 'Our NHS' is saved yet again ! If you are saying you believe Donald Trump!! |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 3, 2019 20:18:51 GMT
Another one who who wants to dismiss the fears of the Jewish community and Chief Rabbi and pretend Corbyn has never had any link whatsoever to the IRA? Oh do bore off with this right wing media nonsense. Your opinion - funded by billionaires to protect billionaires. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 3, 2019 20:29:30 GMT
That's Labour's false attack line gone for a burton then..................Praise to the Lord, 'Our NHS' is saved yet again ! He is building a wall dont you know, a beautiful wall, a very strong wall... In Colorado Forgive me if i dont beleive a word he says |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 20:39:27 GMT
Anti-tory brigade getting very tetchy as we edge closer to Boris Johnson being elected as Prime Minister. Laughable behaviour from some.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 20:49:34 GMT
That's Labour's false attack line gone for a burton then..................Praise to the Lord, 'Our NHS' is saved yet again ! He is building a wall dont you know, a beautiful wall, a very strong wall... In Colorado Forgive me if i dont beleive a word he says Then show us a single shread of factual evidence that 'our NHS' is up for sale.....and while you're there, can you please explain how you would 'sell' the NHS? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2019 20:53:12 GMT
Another one who who wants to dismiss the fears of the Jewish community and Chief Rabbi and pretend Corbyn has never had any link whatsoever to the IRA? Oh do bore off with this right wing media nonsense. Your opinion - funded by billionaires to protect billionaires. So you dismiss the Chief Rabbi’s opinion? Perhaps the Chief Rabbi’s public statements were fiction? Maybe CGI created by the right wing media? Seems like you are a good fit for Corbyn’s Labour Party. Its weird that Corbyn’s links with the IRA are now fictional. Doesn’t take much searching to find stories from all sorts of media outlets over the years - amazing that so many different organisations have colluded to make Corbyn’s IRA links appear true. |
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