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Post by trevorgas on Dec 6, 2019 22:23:13 GMT
I think you should not insult a significant part of the population . I stand by it. Wholeheartedly. Oh dear!!
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 6, 2019 22:24:17 GMT
I think you should not insult a significant part of the population . Unfortunately unless you agree with someone on the far left you are thick and deserving of insult. If you vote for Boris eric and you are not in the top 30% of earners, I can confirm I believe you to be a bit thick yes.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 6, 2019 22:25:36 GMT
I stand by it. Wholeheartedly. Oh dear!! oh dear indeed. Must be those cuts to education.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 22:32:08 GMT
Unfortunately unless you agree with someone on the far left you are thick and deserving of insult. If you vote for Boris eric and you are not in the top 30% of earners, I can confirm I believe you to be a bit thick yes. By that reckoning, if someone is in the top 30% and do vote for Johnson, then they are intelligent? Smart as a box of Frogs me
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 6, 2019 22:32:12 GMT
oh dear indeed. Must be those cuts to education. Or perhaps folk just have a different point of view
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 6, 2019 22:33:18 GMT
If you vote for Boris eric and you are not in the top 30% of earners, I can confirm I believe you to be a bit thick yes. By that reckoning, if someone is in the top 30% and do vote for Johnson, then they are intelligent? Smart as a box of Frogs me You at least have a good reason to
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 22:33:53 GMT
Unfortunately unless you agree with someone on the far left you are thick and deserving of insult. If you vote for Boris eric and you are not in the top 30% of earners, I can confirm I believe you to be a bit thick yes. Alternatively, just how thick do you have to be to vote for Corbyn? What numbers do you have for that Officer?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 22:35:13 GMT
Yeah I have seen it claimed that it was out of context, however I have also seen it said that this had been brought up previously by a Tory who was far more eloquent than Ms Hart could dream of being. She really needs a publicist to speak on her behalf because even if taken out of context that was a really poor choice of words/phrasing. On the issue itself it does make a great deal of sense and if it helps give disabled people some sense of self-purpose whilst not putting them under any pressure to meet a bottom line then yes it should be applauded. Trouble is there are subjects which are seen as taboo. Any discussion over immigration for example sees people shut down by accusing them as racists and suppressing any adult debate. In this instance a few words can be selected and pasted in to black and white print and spun to “look at the evil Tories attacking the disabled”. The level to which our politics and media have stooped in recent years is depressing. Which is exactly why “they don’t understand money” was a very poor choice of words on her part. I don’t see that there’s any excuse really, if it’s a policy of hers she will surely have had ample time to get her wording right. It’s very in-eloquent. I should also add if it was taken out of context then fair enough but people at the hustings took great offence so obviously the people who were there were offended and they got to hear it *in* context.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 6, 2019 22:38:33 GMT
If you vote for Boris eric and you are not in the top 30% of earners, I can confirm I believe you to be a bit thick yes. Alternatively, just how thick do you have to be to vote for Corbyn? What numbers do you have for that Officer? Sorry what do you mean numbers? Am I being thick?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 22:42:15 GMT
Alternatively, just how thick do you have to be to vote for Corbyn? What numbers do you have for that Officer? Sorry what do you mean numbers? Am I being thick? What percentage on the earnings scale, and then voting for Corbyn etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 22:42:41 GMT
Unfortunately unless you agree with someone on the far left you are thick and deserving of insult. If you vote for Boris eric and you are not in the top 30% of earners, I can confirm I believe you to be a bit thick yes. I wouldn’t put it quite that bluntly but I agree with the overall gist. People say they know what they are voting for, fair enough. I say they *think* they know, but they really don’t. We’ll have to wait three years and see who was right. johnson may well be better than Corbyn in the same way that a murderer with a body count of 3 is better than one with a body count of 5 but my prediction is that a lot of working class who vote for Johnson having buyer’s remorse on Brexit and this Tory government in a few years because they feel let down and lied to.
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 6, 2019 23:00:50 GMT
Jesus if you can vote for Boris after that shitshow you're as thick as he is. I think you should not insult a significant part of the population . I quite agree, very insulting to accuse people of being Tory voters 😀
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 6, 2019 23:03:44 GMT
Cut VAT on Tampons...Johnson as an answer to what the benefits of leaving are... Laugh, I nearly cried You have to look at the bigger picture. Leaving means that the government will have the ability to change the VAT on any product. The Tampon issue just highlights the complete lack of control the UK government currently have. The EU say that VAT has to be imposed on tampons and there is nothing the UK government can do to stop it. Lots of governments around the world put a sales tax on sanitary products. It was the UK's decision to impose one in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 23:03:50 GMT
Trouble is there are subjects which are seen as taboo. Any discussion over immigration for example sees people shut down by accusing them as racists and suppressing any adult debate. In this instance a few words can be selected and pasted in to black and white print and spun to “look at the evil Tories attacking the disabled”. The level to which our politics and media have stooped in recent years is depressing. Which is exactly why “they don’t understand money” was a very poor choice of words on her part. I don’t see that there’s any excuse really, if it’s a policy of hers she will surely have had ample time to get her wording right. It’s very in-eloquent. I should also add if it was taken out of context then fair enough but people at the hustings took great offence so obviously the people who were there were offended and they got to hear it *in* context. Like many other stories during this campaign the headlines have no resemblance to the reality which is a sorry state of affairs. As to the reaction and apparent outrage at the hustings what would you expect? There will be people from both sides there to boo and hiss their opponents and cheer for their favourite. You only have to look at the responses on the video Nobby posted yesterday to see how the faux outrage is dependent on who they thought made certain comments. This whole election has become the most toxic and pathetic shambles in history and mainstream and social media have played a massive part.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 23:08:18 GMT
Unfortunately unless you agree with someone on the far left you are thick and deserving of insult. If you vote for Boris eric and you are not in the top 30% of earners, I can confirm I believe you to be a bit thick yes. So you vote for personal, selfish financial reasons? I’m voting with my conscience for what I think is in the best interest of the country the same as I did with the referendum which I knew was likely to cause some short term economic problems which could have affected me as well as others. You are coming across as the most intolerant, unpleasant bigot on these pages which is something considering you have Oldie as competition! It’s quite funny that you are everything you believe the Tories to be - intolerant, bigoted and arrogant!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 23:10:15 GMT
You have to look at the bigger picture. Leaving means that the government will have the ability to change the VAT on any product. The Tampon issue just highlights the complete lack of control the UK government currently have. The EU say that VAT has to be imposed on tampons and there is nothing the UK government can do to stop it. Lots of governments around the world put a sales tax on sanitary products. It was the UK's decision to impose one in the first place. Did Boris impose it? Do you think we as a country should be able to determine when, where and how we apply any such taxes?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 23:13:56 GMT
Which is exactly why “they don’t understand money” was a very poor choice of words on her part. I don’t see that there’s any excuse really, if it’s a policy of hers she will surely have had ample time to get her wording right. It’s very in-eloquent. I should also add if it was taken out of context then fair enough but people at the hustings took great offence so obviously the people who were there were offended and they got to hear it *in* context. Like many other stories during this campaign the headlines have no resemblance to the reality which is a sorry state of affairs. As to the reaction and apparent outrage at the hustings what would you expect? There will be people from both sides there to boo and hiss their opponents and cheer for their favourite. You only have to look at the responses on the video Nobby posted yesterday to see how the faux outrage is dependent on who they thought made certain comments. This whole election has become the most toxic and pathetic shambles in history and mainstream and social media have played a massive part. Some fair points. I totally agree with the last sentence. It feels really personal to me now, the same way I feel going into a Rovers v City derby and even though politics is an emotive subject it shouldn’t be that polarising or anger inducing. And yet the issues have become so binary and the parties stances so extreme that you have to wonder how politics can possibly go back to a less divisive footing after the election. I guess it would require a less right wing government and a less left wing opposition but I don’t see either of those things happening any time soon.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 6, 2019 23:20:02 GMT
If you vote for Boris eric and you are not in the top 30% of earners, I can confirm I believe you to be a bit thick yes. So you vote for personal, selfish financial reasons? I’m voting with my conscience for what I think is in the best interest of the country the same as I did with the referendum which I knew was likely to cause some short term economic problems which could have affected me as well as others. You are coming across as the most intolerant, unpleasant bigot on these pages which is something considering you have Oldie as competition! It’s quite funny that you are everything you believe the Tories to be - intolerant, bigoted and arrogant! dont take it from me Eric, let boris tell you himself about your IQ in the video below. Oh and I am intolerant in case you havent noticed. Of many things. I am also arrogant. But I'm not trying to run your country mate.
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 6, 2019 23:22:52 GMT
Lots of governments around the world put a sales tax on sanitary products. It was the UK's decision to impose one in the first place. Did Boris impose it? Do you think we as a country should be able to determine when, where and how we apply any such taxes? We chose to introduce it, it wasn't forced on us. The EU rules are that VAT isn't lowered below the national minimum once it is brought in. The US for example, has VAT on it in most states. Could we remove it on leaving, yes we could. Would we and is that a sufficient reason for leaving?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 6, 2019 23:26:03 GMT
Did Boris impose it? Do you think we as a country should be able to determine when, where and how we apply any such taxes? We chose to introduce it, it wasn't forced on us. The EU rules are that VAT isn't lowered below the national minimum once it is brought in. The US for example, has VAT on it in most states. Could we remove it on leaving, yes we could. Would we and is that a sufficient reason for leaving? Havent Germany literally just removed it? Edit: yes they have. There goes another one then.
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