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Post by peterparker on Dec 11, 2019 17:13:42 GMT
Jesus H. BBC really need to sack her
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 17:17:00 GMT
Lib Dems going for it Second Lib Dem election candidate endorses vote for Labour rival for… flip.it/_LCRMQ |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 17:50:38 GMT
In BORIS we believe bye bye europe Leev means leev! Lol |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 17:50:50 GMT
So today Liar Johnson hides from the media in a fridge. He still refuses the Neil interview. What on earth could he have to hide? Are people still going to vote for a party led by this weak, uncaring, complete idiot? Surely the British people are smarter than that? Or vote for a party led by a terrorist sympathiser? Easy decision really. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 17:51:52 GMT
In BORIS we believe bye bye europe Leev means leev! Lol Spellcheck not working? |
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Post by aghast on Dec 11, 2019 18:01:02 GMT
In BORIS we believe bye bye europe Oh lord, another gullible voter. You don't think Boris actually wants a real Brexit, do you? He told us he did, in order to further his career in the Tory party, but that ambition has been firmly buried now. Far too difficult and fraught with career risks. I think we've pretty much seen the last of no-deal talk, and look forward to several years of negotiations about who knows what. That's my opinion only, of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:02:23 GMT
Just to remind everyone of the facts :- Annual deficit: Lab 2010: £153.5bn Con 2019: £32.3bn NHS Budget: Lab 2010: £111.7bn Con 2019: £139.3bn Minimum Wage: Lab 2010: £5.93 Con 2019: £7.70 Tax Free Allowance: Lab 2010: £6,475 Con 2019: £12,500 Unemployment Lab 2010: 8% Con 2019: 3.9% Straight off the bat wouldn’t you expect a higher minimum wage due to inflation over 10 years anyway?. It would be interesting to see how that £2 compares with the standard inflation as per the CPI And that Tory unemployment figure doesn’t include people on zero hours contracts (that the Tories introduced) who might not be doing any work. Also aren’t we more in debt now than we were under Labour despite 10 years of austerity (seemingly) ‘just for fun’? ‘Lies, damn lies and statistics’, as they say... The Tories did not introduce zero hour contracts. My first ten years in Germany I worked on what you would call a zero hours contract, and I was more than happy to do so. What do you class as a zero hours contract or do you just use the phrase without really understanding the issue? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:04:31 GMT
He can only finalise any deal if the other side are also willing. The noises coming from the EU suggest they will play hardball and drag it out as long as they can. If the EU do not want to play properly, then no deal exit it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:05:36 GMT
Straight off the bat wouldn’t you expect a higher minimum wage due to inflation over 10 years anyway?. It would be interesting to see how that £2 compares with the standard inflation as per the CPI And that Tory unemployment figure doesn’t include people on zero hours contracts (that the Tories introduced) who might not be doing any work. Also aren’t we more in debt now than we were under Labour despite 10 years of austerity (seemingly) ‘just for fun’? ‘Lies, damn lies and statistics’, as they say... The Tories did not introduce zero hour contracts. My first ten years in Germany I worked on what you would call a zero hours contract, and I was more than happy to do so. What do you class as a zero hours contract or do you just use the phrase without really understanding the issue? A bit like ignoring the impact of the crash of 2008? f**k me, does hypocrisy know no limits? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:06:12 GMT
No. The tax free allowance has been around for years. Uh yes as i know and your stats show. The increase to 11,000+ was a Lib Dem policy What is wrong with a higher tax allowance? Every time it is raised many many lower paid people get removed from paying any tax, or have their tax bill reduced to virtually nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:07:05 GMT
Uh yes as i know and your stats show. The increase to 11,000+ was a Lib Dem policy What is wrong with a higher tax allowance? Every time it is raised many many lower paid people get removed from paying any tax, or have their tax bill reduced to virtually nothing. Marginal rate of tax calculation. Go on |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 11, 2019 18:09:32 GMT
Uh yes as i know and your stats show. The increase to 11,000+ was a Lib Dem policy What is wrong with a higher tax allowance? Every time it is raised many many lower paid people get removed from paying any tax, or have their tax bill reduced to virtually nothing. I never said there was anything wrong with it, just if we are giving credit for things to disparage Labour, than lets credit the Lib Dems where due |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:24:15 GMT
What is wrong with a higher tax allowance? Every time it is raised many many lower paid people get removed from paying any tax, or have their tax bill reduced to virtually nothing. I never said there was anything wrong with it, just if we are giving credit for things to disparage Labour, than lets credit the Lib Dems where due It's pointless Simon. He doesn't understand. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:24:19 GMT
The Tories did not introduce zero hour contracts. My first ten years in Germany I worked on what you would call a zero hours contract, and I was more than happy to do so. What do you class as a zero hours contract or do you just use the phrase without really understanding the issue? A bit like ignoring the impact of the crash of 2008? f**k me, does hypocrisy know no limits? What are you talking about now? It doesn't matter what happened in 2008 or 2007, the FACT (and we all know you keep harping on about facts) is that in 2010 the deficit (you know, the difference between government spending and government income) was 153.5 billion quid! The government had to borrow that amount to meet their spending commitments. When the Tories took over did you think they could just magic away that amount of borrowing every year? Feck me, you're not very bright are you. It doesn't matter how the borrowing got to that level, but that is where it was. Shall I type slowly for you.....just basic stuff eh.... Let's ignore the existing debt and just use the following as an example. 153.5 borrowed. In the first year spending is cut by 10 billion...."austerity", you all scream. The next year 143.5 is borrowed....total so far 291 billion debt. The next year another 10 billion is cut. So now 133.5 billion is borrowed taking the total to 424.5 billion debt.... The next year anther 10 billion is cut. Borrowing is 123.5 billion, taking the total debt to 568.5 billion....... So you see the debt keeps growing, and will continue to grow until the borrowing is reduced to zero or below. The fact that the Tories have reduced borrowing to around 32 billion should be applauded. Even with 32 billion borrowing, the debt is still climbing, but fools like you just scream, "look at the debt under the Tories! It's now 1.8 trillion!" Well, it's not surprising when you take an adult look at things is it. The starting point, inherited from Labour, was horrendous. Yet you always claim that the debt under the Tories has grown, and yes it has, but you have to take into account the starting point. What did you do in the City? Did you repair the coffee machines in the offices or something? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:25:48 GMT
Jesus H. BBC really need to sack her Why sack her? I'm no fan of her's, but what is she doing wrong? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:30:47 GMT
I never said there was anything wrong with it, just if we are giving credit for things to disparage Labour, than lets credit the Lib Dems where due It's pointless Simon. He doesn't understand. In the same way you do not understand basic economics eh. In the coalition government, the Lib Dems didn't do anything without the approval of the Tories. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:37:44 GMT
Ha, ha. I've copied this from someone else.....
"Who do I vote for? I'm undecided.
On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh.
And on the other hand..
Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.
So it’s a tricky one really"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:41:14 GMT
So, I'm not outraged, just laughing...The V is next to the C on a keyboard.......edumacation eh   Order-Order |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:46:25 GMT
Jesus H. BBC really need to sack her Why sack her? I'm no fan of her's, but what is she doing wrong? You aren’t allowed to directly report on actual votes during an election, something like that. So by commenting on how postal voters have voted she’s been a naughty girl. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 18:52:06 GMT
Why sack her? I'm no fan of her's, but what is she doing wrong? You aren’t allowed to directly report on actual votes during an election, something like that. So by commenting on how postal voters have voted she’s been a naughty girl. She gave gave the opinion that others gave her. It was opinion not hard fact. We already know that a certain Labour MP in Oldham has 10,000 postal votes in the bag. The issue of postal votes really needs looking at, especially around certain groups that cannot be named. |
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