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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 12:16:30 GMT
Oh..and a liar General election: Almost every Tory ad is dishonest, compared to none of Labour’s, research finds flip.it/04KD-6Talked about on the last page, old news. So I'll ask again, why is the only Labour advert featured in this article claiming that the NHS will pay 500m quid a week to US drug companies? We all know this is a lie. With just that one point it proves that the zero% claim for Labour is false ! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 12:30:01 GMT
Meanwhile Our new leader is...well...a f**king coward Boris Johnson didn’t turn up to his own hustings… But Count Binface … flip.it/h.R68yHiding in a Dam fridge...and this is our current prime minister? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 12:34:35 GMT
No no, your anti-tory canvassing efforts on here over the past few months (year) are the ones to be applauded. I mean you must have changed, um, no-one's minds?
Roll on tomorrow! Was never of a mind that I had that ability. Just stating my opinion and where I can backing that up with reports, research and / or known facts. But as you are a poor misguided soul, as a Tory supporter, I am flattered that you feel the need to respond to me. Looking forward to the "Free Market Debate" post election where I am sure you will wish to share your knowledge of such. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 12:35:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 12:39:40 GMT
Oh..and a liar General election: Almost every Tory ad is dishonest, compared to none of Labour’s, research finds flip.it/04KD-6Talked about on the last page, old news. So I'll ask again, why is the only Labour advert featured in this article claiming that the NHS will pay 500m quid a week to US drug companies? We all know this is a lie. With just that one point it proves that the zero% claim for Labour is false ! It's a stupid claim and I wish everyone was more honest about it. My understanding of the drugs issue is that drugs still within patent are far more expensive in the States than the UK. However post patent drugs (generic) are far cheaper in the States than the UK. So there us a deal to be done, as long as we do not forgo the ability of NICE to control what we want, do or dont do. It's got eff all to do with selling the NHS. The debate should concentrate on what its underfunding has done to health care in this country. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 12:40:56 GMT
I have thought all along that No Deal was the true aim. We shall see |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 12:41:54 GMT
No no, your anti-tory canvassing efforts on here over the past few months (year) are the ones to be applauded. I mean you must have changed, um, no-one's minds?
Roll on tomorrow! I think we are all old enough to realise that trying to change someone’s mind over this particular election is an impossible task so I’m sure people are venting rather than canvassing. People want what they want and are seriously entrenched in extremes with no compromise to be had. Very much reflective of parliament at the moment. Who in this thread *has* changed their mind from how they were going to vote before the election cycle started? I bet the answer to that question is most likely “no-one”. Maybe oldie and Stuart. I’ve vacillated but have gone back to who I was going to choose 4 weeks ago. Edit: I guess a better question would be who has changed their actual intention? Because people’s desired outcome has probably not changed at all but the party they vote for might based on a tactical vote to better ensure their intended outcome. |
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Post by yetigas on Dec 11, 2019 13:10:04 GMT
So today Liar Johnson hides from the media in a fridge. He still refuses the Neil interview. What on earth could he have to hide?
Are people still going to vote for a party led by this weak, uncaring, complete idiot? Surely the British people are smarter than that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 13:18:14 GMT
Just to remind everyone of the facts :-
Annual deficit:
Lab 2010: £153.5bn
Con 2019: £32.3bn
NHS Budget:
Lab 2010: £111.7bn
Con 2019: £139.3bn
Minimum Wage:
Lab 2010: £5.93
Con 2019: £7.70
Tax Free Allowance:
Lab 2010: £6,475
Con 2019: £12,500
Unemployment
Lab 2010: 8%
Con 2019: 3.9%
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 13:20:39 GMT
So today Liar Johnson hides from the media in a fridge. He still refuses the Neil interview. What on earth could he have to hide? Are people still going to vote for a party led by this weak, uncaring, complete idiot? Surely the British people are smarter than that? I think the British public are smart enough to realise that a Labour government led by Corbyn would be a complete and utter disaster. I'd even suggest that Corbyn wouldn't even last a couple of months as PM. Win or lose they'll replace him pretty sharpish. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 13:31:25 GMT
So today Liar Johnson hides from the media in a fridge. He still refuses the Neil interview. What on earth could he have to hide? Are people still going to vote for a party led by this weak, uncaring, complete idiot? Surely the British people are smarter than that? Oh God, another one who jumps when the media frenzy tells him to. Johnson did not 'hide in a fridge'. He was visiting a diary, and that fridge building was where they store the milk which he was helping to carry out (photo op). Yep, another one feeding the media nonsense. You do realise that as long as you react and believe stories like this it'll never end?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 13:36:16 GMT
Just to remind everyone of the facts :- Annual deficit: Lab 2010: £153.5bn Con 2019: £32.3bn NHS Budget: Lab 2010: £111.7bn Con 2019: £139.3bn Minimum Wage: Lab 2010: £5.93 Con 2019: £7.70 Tax Free Allowance: Lab 2010: £6,475 Con 2019: £12,500 Unemployment Lab 2010: 8% Con 2019: 3.9% Straight off the bat wouldn’t you expect a higher minimum wage due to inflation over 10 years anyway?. It would be interesting to see how that £2 compares with the standard inflation as per the CPI And that Tory unemployment figure doesn’t include people on zero hours contracts (that the Tories introduced) who might not be doing any work. Also aren’t we more in debt now than we were under Labour despite 10 years of austerity (seemingly) ‘just for fun’? ‘Lies, damn lies and statistics’, as they say... |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 11, 2019 14:13:16 GMT
Just to remind everyone of the facts :- Annual deficit: Lab 2010: £153.5bn Con 2019: £32.3bn NHS Budget: Lab 2010: £111.7bn Con 2019: £139.3bn Minimum Wage: Lab 2010: £5.93 Con 2019: £7.70 Tax Free Allowance: Lab 2010: £6,475 Con 2019: £12,500 Unemployment Lab 2010: 8% Con 2019: 3.9% Straight off the bat wouldn’t you expect a higher minimum wage due to inflation over 10 years anyway?. It would be interesting to see how that £2 compares with the standard inflation as per the CPI And that Tory unemployment figure doesn’t include people on zero hours contracts (that the Tories introduced) who might not be doing any work. Also aren’t we more in debt now than we were under Labour despite 10 years of austerity (seemingly) ‘just for fun’? ‘Lies, damn lies and statistics’, as they say... Tax free allowance was a Lib Dem policy as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 14:15:08 GMT
Just to remind everyone of the facts :- Annual deficit: Lab 2010: £153.5bn Con 2019: £32.3bn NHS Budget: Lab 2010: £111.7bn Con 2019: £139.3bn Minimum Wage: Lab 2010: £5.93 Con 2019: £7.70 Tax Free Allowance: Lab 2010: £6,475 Con 2019: £12,500 Unemployment Lab 2010: 8% Con 2019: 3.9% Another Nobby special 2010 was after the biggest financial crash in history. The true comparative number is 2007, ten years after labour were elected. The budget deficit was £9 billion. That was after raising health spending by 2% of gdp. After 9 years of austerity and chronic UNDERFUNDING the Tory deficit is £32billion (Nobby in his usual attention to detail lists that as 2019, which is strange as that fiscal year is not over) More bollux from the right wing, and they wonder why we laugh at them. |
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Post by brads213 on Dec 11, 2019 14:32:45 GMT
In BORIS we believe bye bye europe
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 15:18:05 GMT
In BORIS we believe bye bye europe Excellent post. Exemplifies leaver mentality and why you would vote for the prick Johnson. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 16:51:56 GMT
Just to remind everyone of the facts :- Annual deficit: Lab 2010: £153.5bn Con 2019: £32.3bn NHS Budget: Lab 2010: £111.7bn Con 2019: £139.3bn Minimum Wage: Lab 2010: £5.93 Con 2019: £7.70 Tax Free Allowance: Lab 2010: £6,475 Con 2019: £12,500 Unemployment Lab 2010: 8% Con 2019: 3.9% Another Nobby special 2010 was after the biggest financial crash in history. The true comparative number is 2007, ten years after labour were elected. The budget deficit was £9 billion. That was after raising health spending by 2% of gdp. After 9 years of austerity and chronic UNDERFUNDING the Tory deficit is £32billion (Nobby in his usual attention to detail lists that as 2019, which is strange as that fiscal year is not over) More bollux from the right wing, and they wonder why we laugh at them. Facts old boy, facts. The deficit in 2010, when the Tories took over, was 153.5 billion. Of course the debt will grow as the deficit is gradually reduced. If you take over a borrowing requirement of 153.5 billion, and you reduce the borrowing by 10 billion, you'll still need to borrow 143.5 billion the next year, so yes, the debt does rise, and will continue to rise until the deficit is zero or less. 25 rip roaring years in the city? This is basic economics. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 16:52:44 GMT
Straight off the bat wouldn’t you expect a higher minimum wage due to inflation over 10 years anyway?. It would be interesting to see how that £2 compares with the standard inflation as per the CPI And that Tory unemployment figure doesn’t include people on zero hours contracts (that the Tories introduced) who might not be doing any work. Also aren’t we more in debt now than we were under Labour despite 10 years of austerity (seemingly) ‘just for fun’? ‘Lies, damn lies and statistics’, as they say... Tax free allowance was a Lib Dem policy as well. No. The tax free allowance has been around for years. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 17:00:02 GMT
Another Nobby special 2010 was after the biggest financial crash in history. The true comparative number is 2007, ten years after labour were elected. The budget deficit was £9 billion. That was after raising health spending by 2% of gdp. After 9 years of austerity and chronic UNDERFUNDING the Tory deficit is £32billion (Nobby in his usual attention to detail lists that as 2019, which is strange as that fiscal year is not over) More bollux from the right wing, and they wonder why we laugh at them. Facts old boy, facts. The deficit in 2010, when the Tories took over, was 153.5 billion. Of course the debt will grow as the deficit is gradually reduced. If you take over a borrowing requirement of 153.5 billion, and you reduce the borrowing by 10 billion, you'll still need to borrow 143.5 billion the next year, so yes, the debt does rise, and will continue to rise until the deficit is zero or less. 25 rip roaring years in the city? This is basic economics. You can ignore the crash of 2008 as much as you like, but that totally devalues your argument. As I contend, the like for like comparison is 2007 after 10 years of Blair / Brown. The budget deficit was £9billion. After increasing health care spending by 2% of gdp. Facts my dear boy, facts. I know thats an anathema to you and your ilk. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 11, 2019 17:05:42 GMT
Tax free allowance was a Lib Dem policy as well. No. The tax free allowance has been around for years. Uh yes as i know and your stats show. The increase to 11,000+ was a Lib Dem policy |
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