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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 13:36:50 GMT
The bar for a conviction in this case was very high and without hearing all the evidence you have to respect the decision the jury reached. Its terrible for the families to have this hanging over them for so many years and the reaction from the authorities at outset was appalling. I don’t think the campaigners will rest until they have their scapegoat which looks unlikely to ever happen and they perhaps need to find a way of moving on with their own lives. Easy for me to say, but I agree with you. This torture they must have endured, or are still enduring, has to be put to bed and for their own sanity to move on. But, the big but, what lessons have been learned? How do we ensure, as far as is possible that this does not happen again(in all examples for regulatory or operational failure) That has already taken place hasn't it? This is why all large stadia have to be all-seater. There has been huge improvements in crowd monitoring both inside and outside the stadiums.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 18:17:54 GMT
Easy for me to say, but I agree with you. This torture they must have endured, or are still enduring, has to be put to bed and for their own sanity to move on. But, the big but, what lessons have been learned? How do we ensure, as far as is possible that this does not happen again(in all examples for regulatory or operational failure) That has already taken place hasn't it? This is why all large stadia have to be all-seater. There has been huge improvements in crowd monitoring both inside and outside the stadiums. I think we can be pretty confident that such a disaster will never happen again after the changes put in place by the Taylor report. I mentioned on the other thread that the hooligans of the 70’s and 80’s should be feeling guilty - it was their moronic behaviour that led to fences being required and was probably the biggest factor in the Hillsborough disaster. Instead many of them reminisce over the good old days and the scrapes they got into.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 19:29:54 GMT
Easy for me to say, but I agree with you. This torture they must have endured, or are still enduring, has to be put to bed and for their own sanity to move on. But, the big but, what lessons have been learned? How do we ensure, as far as is possible that this does not happen again(in all examples for regulatory or operational failure) That has already taken place hasn't it? This is why all large stadia have to be all-seater. There has been huge improvements in crowd monitoring both inside and outside the stadiums. Yes on football crowds, but I was referring more generally.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 30, 2019 17:31:33 GMT
I don't listen to Radio 1 but they do a thing on there at about 8.15am where people give their unpopular opinions. So what are your unpopular opinions?! GGMI is a top bloke!
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Nov 30, 2019 18:59:48 GMT
I don't listen to Radio 1 but they do a thing on there at about 8.15am where people give their unpopular opinions. So what are your unpopular opinions?! No more demonstrations on roads. Must be on pavements or in parks & only with police/council permission. No more giving in to minority group demands (except the young/old/sick). Instead promote success, ingenuity & hard work and the rule of law. Value those who provide (legal) employment. Convicted foreign criminals to be sent back with no return, ever. No more blaming the past.
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