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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 14, 2019 18:26:31 GMT
I'd imagine he wants more for the club (Jan transfer money and secure JCH contract) and more for himself (reward for the transformation he has achieved), but probably getting neither at the moment. So why should he put such a strain on his family which is clearly more important to him (understandably) than football / Rovers, and will be very front of mind a year on and at this time of year. I guess he'd only walk if he had a better offer, but closer to home it could actually be worse and be pretty attractive for him if it pays the rent. I've just been to Leeds and back today and that was a long drive to bring my eldest home for Christmas, would not want to do that very often each week . . .
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Post by roosty56 on Dec 14, 2019 18:26:51 GMT
I hope and pray GC is playing a master stroke here, literally telling the board ‘ back me in January or I’m off . Wael and Co the balls in your court What you going to do about it ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 18:26:51 GMT
Sadly, after considering some of GC's recent comments, his emotions immediately after the game and his comments in the post match interview I fear he's pretty much already decided.
GC will resign and to make things worse some of our best players will follow him.
Another chance of Championship football being derailed when it matters.
I'm not ITK, just my considered opinion but I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2019 18:27:23 GMT
Ok sounds like an investment in the club matter. Interesting considering this time last year he wasn't interested in the off the field matters, the stadium was fine and the training ground satisfactory. Now he's gone full DC. What has made him change his outlook? Is it the reality of being a proper football manager looking to progress vs getting onto the ladder for the first time like last year? If he's still with us next Saturday we need to back him 100% and not give him the usual abuse 15 mins in when someone misplaces a pass. He’s won a few games and got big ideas obviously. If so there is no loyalty to the club who gave him a 2.5 year contract and showed some faith in him. Very poor timing on GC’s behalf imo. But we've no idea if it was a decent contract or we're just paying him peanuts? Plus perhaps he wants a reasonable January transfer budget. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 14, 2019 18:28:21 GMT
Let’s just enjoy the win and see what happens, wrong of him to say it after that result as players need more focus on them as it’s now left everything flat. We beat Ipswich and NICHOLS scored for ffs That’s the thing..... when you’re all emotional after a game is when things like this do come out. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 18:29:41 GMT
100% the board after hearing this Very worrying. Sounds like the board are not backing him. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2019 18:29:48 GMT
He’s won a few games and got big ideas obviously. If so there is no loyalty to the club who gave him a 2.5 year contract and showed some faith in him. Very poor timing on GC’s behalf imo. But we've no idea if it was a decent contract or we're just paying him peanuts? Plus perhaps he wants a reasonable January transfer budget. It's transfer budget according to this BP article: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-rovers-manager-graham-coughlan-3644915 |
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Post by toddy1953 on Dec 14, 2019 18:30:30 GMT
Starnes said last year there would be cut backs this season. GC probably nowhere near the salary DC was on & with his family living so far away that must put a strain on relationships. However, I don’t think he would have said anything if it was for purely personal reasons. I also don’t think he would chuck it in due to a few morons behind the dug outs,
GC May have asked or been promised a wage increase , he may have been told no more signings in Jan & if offer comes in for JCH he will go. He only got emotional when he was asked how far he can take us, which gives the opinion that he is not being supported in the way he feels he should be by the club & he needs to think over whether it’s worth all the grief of being so far from his family.
He was never my choice as manager but you can only praise him on the results & he definitely has the players putting in a shift for him irrespective of their abilities & imo the club needs to support him in Jan, to see how far he can take us this season. Perhaps the owners could help by some communication, but I won’t hold my breath.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Dec 14, 2019 18:31:29 GMT
I'd be really annoyed if GC left, especially if it was due to something that the Board have not done, or promised and reneged on. GC has done wonders for this club, results wise, since we parted ways with clown Clarke last year. At the end of last season I spent a lot of time comparing GC's results against the rest of the league and I published charts on here showing that during his tenure we were actually the 8th best placed team in the division. You don't make those results up. There were far too many games involved for it to have been a new manager bounce so I was sure something good was happening. Is it any coincidence that GC tries to play players in their preferred roles, and keep a consistent team where possible, and the results start to follow?
Quite why people are berating him for the style of football is difficult to understand. As a business you need success to be able to grow. Success in football is points on the board. If that comes with good football that is pleasing in the eye then you have hit the jackpot. What you don't want is attractive football that earns no points and a relegation at the end of the season cos then everyone loses - fans, players, manager, coaching staff. Let's be very clear here, there are NO points available for attractiveness of the performance. Arsenal used to have a tag of being boring and chants of "one nil to the Arsenal" used to ring out around Highbury. Did they give a sh** about that? Of course not. They wanted their team to win and that was exactly what was happening. They didn't care much whether the football was perfect or not.
I really hope he stays but if he does go let's be grateful he leaves us with over 30 points on the board and well clear of relegation. In all honesty we probably only need 6 more wins to secure safety this year.
As for moving to Bristol. If I didn't live here I wouldn't want to bring my family here. Mrs Scoobydoo is from just outside Sheffield and whilst she will attest that Sheffield isn't the nicest place on the planet you can at least get a decent size house at a reasonable price, the cost of living is lower, and the town centre isn't taken over every other weekend with arty farty types and protesters.
And a final message to the Al Qadis. Please sell up and move on. You are poisoning this club and destroying any reputation and goodwill you may have once had in the footballing community.
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Post by socrates on Dec 14, 2019 18:36:02 GMT
Not necessarily length of contract which will be the issue. Could be pay level. Well both more likely. Either way is it just me or does it seem a bit poor to use our league position to agitate for an improved contract when he has barely done half a job? All guess work isn’t it. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Dec 14, 2019 18:37:11 GMT
Literally says "I've got decisions to make in my personal life". Yes he does so why bring “where he can take FC” into it? Because if he moves his family down he would need to feel secure in the job - and for various reasons he doesn’t? His stock is really high right now. Clarke not taking the Leeds job is surely a cautionary tale and if he does have a decent offer from somewhere closer to home then I wouldn’t blame him in the least for going. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 18:39:28 GMT
He’s won a few games and got big ideas obviously. If so there is no loyalty to the club who gave him a 2.5 year contract and showed some faith in him. Very poor timing on GC’s behalf imo. But we've no idea if it was a decent contract or we're just paying him peanuts? Plus perhaps he wants a reasonable January transfer budget. He was happy to sign it so it doesn’t matter what the salary was. As it stands he is contracted to us until the end of the season at least. If this is down to him agitating for a better deal when he’s got less than a year’s experience under his belt then I would be tempted to tell him to get on with the job and honour his contract and the situation will be reviewed at the end of the season. I rather fear the results have all gone to his head and he thinks he is the lower league Guardiola now. Hopefully this is all just speculation and it’s a family issue. Either way, the timing is typical Rovers. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Dec 14, 2019 18:39:52 GMT
Completely back your last paragraph scooby. Utg .
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Post by z1zou on Dec 14, 2019 18:40:20 GMT
Well, I don't want to see GC go at this point, but if he did you'd like to think we wouldn't be short of decent applicants considering where we are in the league
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Post by Jomo on Dec 14, 2019 18:40:46 GMT
No coincidence that the club have delayed in posting the interview online. Censorship at work. Thing is do they not realise that the fans actually listen to the radio?
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Post by filtongas on Dec 14, 2019 18:41:54 GMT
I'd be really annoyed if GC left, especially if it was due to something that the Board have not done, or promised and reneged on. GC has done wonders for this club, results wise, since we parted ways with clown Clarke last year. At the end of last season I spent a lot of time comparing GC's results against the rest of the league and I published charts on here showing that during his tenure we were actually the 8th best placed team in the division. You don't make those results up. There were far too many games involved for it to have been a new manager bounce so I was sure something good was happening. Is it any coincidence that GC tries to play players in their preferred roles, and keep a consistent team where possible, and the results start to follow? Quite why people are berating him for the style of football is difficult to understand. As a business you need success to be able to grow. Success in football is points on the board. If that comes with good football that is pleasing in the eye then you have hit the jackpot. What you don't want is attractive football that earns no points and a relegation at the end of the season cos then everyone loses - fans, players, manager, coaching staff. Let's be very clear here, there are NO points available for attractiveness of the performance. Arsenal used to have a tag of being boring and chants of "one nil to the Arsenal" used to ring out around Highbury. Did they give a sh** about that? Of course not. They wanted their team to win and that was exactly what was happening. They didn't care much whether the football was perfect or not. I really hope he stays but if he does go let's be grateful he leaves us with over 30 points on the board and well clear of relegation. In all honesty we probably only need 6 more wins to secure safety this year. As for moving to Bristol. If I didn't live here I wouldn't want to bring my family here. Mrs Scoobydoo is from just outside Sheffield and whilst she will attest that Sheffield isn't the nicest place on the planet you can at least get a decent size house at a reasonable price, the cost of living is lower, and the town centre isn't taken over every other weekend with arty farty types and protesters. And a final message to the Al Qadis. Please sell up and move on. You are poisoning this club and destroying any reputation and goodwill you may have once had in the footballing community. Why the need to call him clown clarke, pathetic comment. |
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Post by wertongas on Dec 14, 2019 18:41:57 GMT
I can remember some time ago he reported his daughter received abuse on line,after what he has done for the club in the past year I suspect he feels he hasn't received the support he deserves from fans and the owners. Even during the Southend game there were so called supporters in the Dunford lounge moaning about him. Not good. Long way to travel from Sheffield to find that there is a lack of support for you and the family you love have received abuse from your so called supporters.
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Post by yetigas on Dec 14, 2019 18:43:58 GMT
GC has done an amazing job. Overachieved with the resources he has and no more can be asked of him. At the very least I hope he will decide to stay until the end of the season ...please don't go now Graham...let's all enjoy the next 6 months together...then you can reassess
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 18:44:28 GMT
Ok sounds like an investment in the club matter. Interesting considering this time last year he wasn't interested in the off the field matters, the stadium was fine and the training ground satisfactory. Now he's gone full DC. What has made him change his outlook? Is it the reality of being a proper football manager looking to progress vs getting onto the ladder for the first time like last year? If he's still with us next Saturday we need to back him 100% and not give him the usual abuse 15 mins in when someone misplaces a pass. He’s won a few games and got big ideas obviously. If so there is no loyalty to the club who gave him a 2.5 year contract and showed some faith in him. Very poor timing on GC’s behalf imo. “before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes” |
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Post by axegas on Dec 14, 2019 18:48:21 GMT
He’s got to do what’s right for his wife and kids. If they are settled where they are and commuting down to us is taking it’s toll, you can’t blame him. But why now? Why not a few weeks back? Is it any coincidence that we beat the 2nd place team and hit our highest point in the table and he uses this opportunity to throw his future into doubt? He didn’t say anything when he was building up his reputation. If it’s to do with his family is it really that hard to keep this quiet, go another 5 months, finish what he started and then leave with everyone wishing him well? This leaves a very bad taste with me because we’ve just started to look like we might be going somewhere, people are eating humble pie and getting behind him and the team and then he throws us a curve ball by unsettling it all. He’d just won me over and I’m back to being a bit disappointed with him because this could de-rail it all and disrupt the team spirit. It leaves a very bad taste with me too and has soured my evening somewhat. I sympathise with Coughlan, he’s in another country from his own, at a club with a very demanding fan base, he’s had to work with a reduced budget to his predecessor and he’s got to balance that with working far away from his family. As much as I want him to stay, if things have got too much for him and he just wants away from it all, I can really understand that. I’ve had times in my life where I’ve felt exactly the same. |
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