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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 18:53:30 GMT
Protesting at what exactly? The fact they aren't prepared to move us deeper into debt? The fact we aren't prepared to have a go when in this position. Haven't got to go mental, but if we aren't prepared to have a go, what is the point? Fact is if we don't have a go now, you'll be looking at about 3k less on the gate - and we'll be much worse off then. Specifically what does having a go look like in your mind Rd? |
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Post by singupgas on Dec 14, 2019 18:58:44 GMT
The fact we aren't prepared to have a go when in this position. Haven't got to go mental, but if we aren't prepared to have a go, what is the point? Fact is if we don't have a go now, you'll be looking at about 3k less on the gate - and we'll be much worse off then. Specifically what does having a go look like in your mind Rd? Probably not sell our best player, bring some players in? FN9 don't you want the club to do better? |
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Post by socrates on Dec 14, 2019 18:59:18 GMT
I can remember some time ago he reported his daughter received abuse on line,after what he has done for the club in the past year I suspect he feels he hasn't received the support he deserves from fans and the owners. Even during the Southend game there were so called supporters in the Dunford lounge moaning about him. Not good. Long way to travel from Sheffield to find that there is a lack of support for you and the family you love have received abuse from your so called supporters. Yeah I’ve got a lot of respect for the bloke , unfortunately some so called gasheads have said the sort of sh** to him that you’d expect from the 82ers to say to their manager. If he goes I wouldn’t blame him. Just like the working classes voting for a government that doesn’t give a sh** about them really. You get what you deserve. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 14, 2019 18:59:57 GMT
Been told to sell players in Jan no doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 19:12:19 GMT
Specifically what does having a go look like in your mind Rd? Probably not sell our best player, bring some players in? FN9 don't you want the club to do better? Of course. However I like to think I'm conscious of the wider environment we are operating in and would question whether a significant on field investment would be healthy. We're a million miles off competiting in the Championship as a club. |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 14, 2019 19:13:16 GMT
Probably not sell our best player, bring some players in? FN9 don't you want the club to do better? Of course. However I like to think I'm conscious of the wider environment we are operating in and would question whether a significant on field investment would be healthy. We're a million miles off competiting in the Championship as a club. From a financial point of view, it's still worth it - even for just a year. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 19:16:03 GMT
Of course. However I like to think I'm conscious of the wider environment we are operating in and would question whether a significant on field investment would be healthy. We're a million miles off competiting in the Championship as a club. From a financial point of view, it's still worth it - even for just a year. In the medium to longer term, I'm not convinced about that. We'd certainly need to safeguard ourselves financially if we found ourself in that position. |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 14, 2019 19:16:17 GMT
Been told to sell players in Jan no doubt. Has his post match video been put up anywhere yet or are we back to the censorship we had just before DC left. If he goes and it's for lack of support by the board and us fans who the f..k is going to want to manage us,other than the those on the usaul managerial merry go round. |
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Post by socrates on Dec 14, 2019 19:17:36 GMT
Of course. However I like to think I'm conscious of the wider environment we are operating in and would question whether a significant on field investment would be healthy. We're a million miles off competiting in the Championship as a club. From a financial point of view, it's still worth it - even for just a year. If we increased the playing budget in January and won promotion then it would be worth it but if we fell short then it wouldn’t and it would put the club in even more debt. Waels family are worth a reported 400 million. To get to the championship, stay there and build a stadium and training facilities worthy of the championship they’d have to spend half of their total assets on the club. It ain’t going to happen. |
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Post by scoobydoogas on Dec 14, 2019 19:20:12 GMT
I'd be really annoyed if GC left, especially if it was due to something that the Board have not done, or promised and reneged on. GC has done wonders for this club, results wise, since we parted ways with clown Clarke last year. At the end of last season I spent a lot of time comparing GC's results against the rest of the league and I published charts on here showing that during his tenure we were actually the 8th best placed team in the division. You don't make those results up. There were far too many games involved for it to have been a new manager bounce so I was sure something good was happening. Is it any coincidence that GC tries to play players in their preferred roles, and keep a consistent team where possible, and the results start to follow? Quite why people are berating him for the style of football is difficult to understand. As a business you need success to be able to grow. Success in football is points on the board. If that comes with good football that is pleasing in the eye then you have hit the jackpot. What you don't want is attractive football that earns no points and a relegation at the end of the season cos then everyone loses - fans, players, manager, coaching staff. Let's be very clear here, there are NO points available for attractiveness of the performance. Arsenal used to have a tag of being boring and chants of "one nil to the Arsenal" used to ring out around Highbury. Did they give a sh** about that? Of course not. They wanted their team to win and that was exactly what was happening. They didn't care much whether the football was perfect or not. I really hope he stays but if he does go let's be grateful he leaves us with over 30 points on the board and well clear of relegation. In all honesty we probably only need 6 more wins to secure safety this year. As for moving to Bristol. If I didn't live here I wouldn't want to bring my family here. Mrs Scoobydoo is from just outside Sheffield and whilst she will attest that Sheffield isn't the nicest place on the planet you can at least get a decent size house at a reasonable price, the cost of living is lower, and the town centre isn't taken over every other weekend with arty farty types and protesters. And a final message to the Al Qadis. Please sell up and move on. You are poisoning this club and destroying any reputation and goodwill you may have once had in the footballing community. Why the need to call him clown clarke, pathetic comment. My personal opinion having met the bloke on many occasions. I really couldn't care less if you don't agree with my view. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 14, 2019 19:22:01 GMT
He won’t leave . He’s desperate to do well .... this is his big chance that he’s craved for yrs. He see’s it might flounder due to injuries/ like of signings etc . Ultimately ( I think ) it means so much to him that he couldn’t possibly walk away. He just wants and needs that backing. Hence why his call recently for backing from the fans. He needs a bit of love
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Post by Gassy on Dec 14, 2019 19:22:48 GMT
From a financial point of view, it's still worth it - even for just a year. If we increased the playing budget in January and won promotion then it would be worth it but if we fell short then it wouldn’t and it would put the club in even more debt. Waels family are worth a reported 400 million. To get to the championship, stay there and build a stadium and training facilities worthy of the championship they’d have to spend half of their total assets on the club.It ain’t going to happen. Well on the bold part, that's very nice - but that's a bit of a made up scenario, I hardly doubt GC is demanding that in the next month before January. I'm more talking about 2 or 3 players in January (nothing major) and we could really push on. If we don't make it we lick our wounds and sell JCH. I don't think it's overly ambitious tbh. From attendances, sponsorship & pay out from EFL & sky - we'd be making a profit on the current wage bill/set up. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 19:23:46 GMT
From a financial point of view, it's still worth it - even for just a year. If we increased the playing budget in January and won promotion then it would be worth it but if we fell short then it wouldn’t and it would put the club in even more debt. Waels family are worth a reported 400 million. To get to the championship, stay there and build a stadium and training facilities worthy of the championship they’d have to spend half of their total assets on the club. It ain’t going to happen. I can understand selling players but why do we need to add to the squad if everything is going well at the moment? We don’t have the means to splash the cash for the hell of it like other teams chasing promotion do in January. |
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Post by RD on Dec 14, 2019 19:24:52 GMT
The fact we aren't prepared to have a go when in this position. Haven't got to go mental, but if we aren't prepared to have a go, what is the point? Fact is if we don't have a go now, you'll be looking at about 3k less on the gate - and we'll be much worse off then. Specifically what does having a go look like in your mind Rd? Personally - doing all we can to hold on to JCH and 2 or 3 decent additions (which by GCs record so far should be doable for little outlay). Appreciate he may have been told he can have that and yet he wants even more. I appreciate emotion may have got the better of me. But my gut tells me it's probably feck all additions and JCH gone if a decent offer comes in (which will be miles below his actual worth). Hope I'm wrong. |
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Post by socrates on Dec 14, 2019 19:25:58 GMT
If we increased the playing budget in January and won promotion then it would be worth it but if we fell short then it wouldn’t and it would put the club in even more debt. Waels family are worth a reported 400 million. To get to the championship, stay there and build a stadium and training facilities worthy of the championship they’d have to spend half of their total assets on the club.It ain’t going to happen. Well on the bold part, that's very nice - but that's a bit of a made up scenario, I hardly doubt GC is demanding that in the next month before January. I'm more talking about 2 or 3 players in January (nothing major) and we could really push on. If we don't make it we lick our wounds and sell JCH. I don't think it's overly ambitious tbh. From attendances, sponsorship & pay out from EFL & sky - we'd be making a profit on the current wage bill/set up. If i had 400mill in the bank I’d do it but I can’t have a go at someone else because they don’t want too. They’ve been very similar to previous owners in what they’ve done at Rovers. And they certainly haven’t been our worst. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 19:28:58 GMT
Specifically what does having a go look like in your mind Rd? Personally - doing all we can to hold on to JCH and 2 or 3 decent additions (which by GCs record so far should be doable for little outlay). Appreciate he may have been told he can have that and yet he wants even more. I appreciate emotion may have got the better of me. But my gut tells me it's probably feck all additions and JCH gone if a decent offer comes in (which will be miles below his actual worth). Hope I'm wrong. Fair enough. 2 or 3 decent additions for a team at the top end of L1 wouldn't surely involve little outlay though. If you're taking players under contract, that's likely to involve £1m+. |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 14, 2019 19:31:24 GMT
He’s won a few games and got big ideas obviously. If so there is no loyalty to the club who gave him a 2.5 year contract and showed some faith in him. Very poor timing on GC’s behalf imo. But we've no idea if it was a decent contract or we're just paying him peanuts? Plus perhaps he wants a reasonable January transfer budget. I have heard he is on the cheap ~ I'm not itk but was told this and I hope he stays |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 14, 2019 19:33:14 GMT
Well on the bold part, that's very nice - but that's a bit of a made up scenario, I hardly doubt GC is demanding that in the next month before January. I'm more talking about 2 or 3 players in January (nothing major) and we could really push on. If we don't make it we lick our wounds and sell JCH. I don't think it's overly ambitious tbh. From attendances, sponsorship & pay out from EFL & sky - we'd be making a profit on the current wage bill/set up. If i had 400mill in the bank I’d do it but I can’t have a go at someone else because they don’t want too. They’ve been very similar to previous owners in what they’ve done at Rovers. And they certainly haven’t been our worst. And I’m not asking you to have a go at them. We’re all entitled to our opinions of the owners. I’m more just point out that financially it would be worth it to the club and also the family - we’d be worth more to a buyer without a doubt |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 14, 2019 19:35:56 GMT
Well on the bold part, that's very nice - but that's a bit of a made up scenario, I hardly doubt GC is demanding that in the next month before January. I'm more talking about 2 or 3 players in January (nothing major) and we could really push on. If we don't make it we lick our wounds and sell JCH. I don't think it's overly ambitious tbh. From attendances, sponsorship & pay out from EFL & sky - we'd be making a profit on the current wage bill/set up. If i had 400mill in the bank I’d do it but I can’t have a go at someone else because they don’t want too. They’ve been very similar to previous owners in what they’ve done at Rovers. And they certainly haven’t been our worst. I doubt anyone is expecting the ALQ's to spend theirbown money, don't forget Wael suggested finance was in place for the UWE. The timing of GC's outburst matches DC's last season to almost the week, did the ALQ's have their annual meeting with the manager to tell him his January budget this week? |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 14, 2019 19:36:22 GMT
But why now? Why not a few weeks back? Is it any coincidence that we beat the 2nd place team and hit our highest point in the table and he uses this opportunity to throw his future into doubt? He didn’t say anything when he was building up his reputation. If it’s to do with his family is it really that hard to keep this quiet, go another 5 months, finish what he started and then leave with everyone wishing him well? This leaves a very bad taste with me because we’ve just started to look like we might be going somewhere, people are eating humble pie and getting behind him and the team and then he throws us a curve ball by unsettling it all. He’d just won me over and I’m back to being a bit disappointed with him because this could de-rail it all and disrupt the team spirit. It leaves a very bad taste with me too and has soured my evening somewhat. I sympathise with Coughlan, he’s in another country from his own, at a club with a very demanding fan base, he’s had to work with a reduced budget to his predecessor and he’s got to balance that with working far away from his family. As much as I want him to stay, if things have got too much for him and he just wants away from it all, I can really understand that. I’ve had times in my life where I’ve felt exactly the same. With the greatest respect to your comment and GC but he knew where the job was and what the remit was before he took it. He knew the type of club we were and what the state of play with the budget there was. That said, some of our fanbase have behaved appallingly towards him, not gotten behind him and whinged constantly about his tactics. I can well understand him being narked after a year of not getting the support from the fanbase. And we don’t know the relationship he has with the owners/board. Personally I don’t think this is club related. No ITK stuff just my opinion. I think that either his family won’t move down so his wife has given him a decision to make. Them or the club. Or he’s been tapped up. A club in the north has informed him they are going to sack their manager over Xmas and he’s had a wink for it without officially being approached. Now there are a few clubs I can think of which may we’ll be in his range and considering what he’s done with us and where we sit. It will be a championship club or a big fish in L1. Derby, Wigan, Middlesborough, Doncaster are all struggling and possibly Sunderland May well part with Parkinson if results don’t improve rapidly there. |
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