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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Dec 16, 2019 11:29:05 GMT
The Club can confirm that it has reluctantly given permission for Manager Graham Coughlan to speak to Mansfield Town about the vacant position at the One Call Stadium.
Two approaches were made last week by the Sky Bet League Two side requesting permission to speak with Graham Coughlan about the manager's position, both were rejected by the club.
However, it became apparent that the interest from Mansfield was significant and due to the fact that Graham had been working away from his family home in Sheffield for the last decade, it was evident that he would welcome the opportunity to work closer to his family and we therefore reluctantly granted permission to Mansfield to discuss terms.
Joe Dunne led training this morning to prepare the squad for Tuesday's Emirates FA Cup replay at Home Park and he will continue to be assisted by Kevin Maher, Adrian Tucker and Lee Mansell.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2019 11:29:42 GMT
He's taken us to 4th in the league. IF he leaves today then he's left us much better off than when he started, when we were staring relegation in the face and had no saleable assets. His treatment of Reilly in the media wasn't great I admit that, and IF he told the players he's leaving then I agree he could have handled that better too. But he's the manager of the players and whatever he's been doing has been working wonders with them. Maybe he's just doing what he feels is right by the players. Who are we to argue with that? I think you personally are getting too uptight and offended by this whole situation. We're 4th in the league thanks to him and that's whether he goes to Mansfield or not. We'll live on without him and I will continue to thank him for what he's done in his 1 year in charge. Maybe time for you to have some appreciation as well rather than searching deep for reasons to be watered off with him in order to vindicate your previously-unexplainable dislike for him. This I should add is coming from me who was staunchly pro-DC and never quite took to GC as much. Yet I still can at least have some perspective and see that GC by hook or by crook got us into a position way beyond anyone's expectations. Yes, he really is the antichrist. He’s done half a job, conducted himself poorly and shown no real loyalty to the board who gave him a chance and a generous contract (in terms of length). If this had come out over the summer and he left then that’s a different matter in my book but doing what he has done mid-season and not even to go in an upward direction makes his current employer look like a laughing stock. As others have suggested, you just don't know what might be going on in his family life. Some have said "well he knew what he was getting into" which I don't buy at all. He's had many years commuting back and forth from Southend etc to Sheffield, but that was as a coach not a manager. A manager must be on the go constantly, and that must have been a nightmare when trying to get back to see his wife and kids. I can understand that. I've had periods in the past where I've taken on a new role in a company only to find after a year that it's taking too much of a toll on my personal life. I can imagine GC is experiencing something similar. Maybe it is simply time that he moves back north to be closer to his family, and taking on a job at an ambitious club like Mansfield might be just the right decision for him personally. Could he have handled it better? Probably, but we have to realise as fans that in GC's world, keeping his family happy is more important than keeping us lot happy. Life is short and we have hardly been that supportive of him in the last year anyway have we? We'll take on a new manager who has a great opportunity to build on some amazing foundations GC has left. We surely have to thank him for that. It's not a disastrous mess he's left us in. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 16, 2019 11:31:07 GMT
Maybe wait until this afternoon eh? You think he will still be at the club? That will only make things worse. His position is untenable. He needs to be put on gardening leave while the club asserts it’s authority and decides what it will do next. We shouldn’t be pushed about and play to Mansfield’s timetable. No I don't think he will stay at all, but as no one actually knows the reason he wants/has to leave calling him the antichrist is poor form. |
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Post by axegas on Dec 16, 2019 11:32:35 GMT
It seems like he's gone.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Dec 16, 2019 11:37:42 GMT
So two approaches from Mansfield last week, before they sacked their manager. They would have had an idea about GC before the approach, from someone, maybe GC himself.
They would never had made an approach if they assumed GC was happy. That'll be like us approaching a manager from a championship team in the top six!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 11:38:35 GMT
He’s done half a job, conducted himself poorly and shown no real loyalty to the board who gave him a chance and a generous contract (in terms of length). If this had come out over the summer and he left then that’s a different matter in my book but doing what he has done mid-season and not even to go in an upward direction makes his current employer look like a laughing stock. As others have suggested, you just don't know what might be going on in his family life. Some have said "well he knew what he was getting into" which I don't buy at all. He's had many years commuting back and forth from Southend etc to Sheffield, but that was as a coach not a manager. A manager must be on the go constantly, and that must have been a nightmare when trying to get back to see his wife and kids. I can understand that. I've had periods in the past where I've taken on a new role in a company only to find after a year that it's taking too much of a toll on my personal life. I can imagine GC is experiencing something similar. Maybe it is simply time that he moves back north to be closer to his family, and taking on a job at an ambitious club like Mansfield might be just the right decision for him personally. Could he have handled it better? Probably, but we have to realise as fans that in GC's world, keeping his family happy is more important than keeping us lot happy. Life is short and we have hardly been that supportive of him in the last year anyway have we? We'll take on a new manager who has a great opportunity to build on some amazing foundations GC has left. We surely have to thank him for that. It's not a disastrous mess he's left us in. It looks like Mansfield approached us twice which wasn’t initially reported which lessens the under-handedness but it’s still hard to hold him in a favourable light because he has left mid-season and it could scupper another chance to play in the championship. You say about his family but it’s hard to really give that much credence, he was happy to take the job on knowing they lived away and I would bet that if we did it all over again now he would still take the job in order to get into management no wonder where his family are. It’s opportunism- he’s built up a reputation and he now calls the shots and will do what suits him best without a thought for the people who gave him the chance and backed him. Everyone will have their own thoughts on whether he owes any loyalty to the board. I don’t think it’s a good look myself when the end of the season is only 4 months or so away. |
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Post by thegasman on Dec 16, 2019 11:41:18 GMT
doesn't matter if Mansfield approached BRFC twice to talk to him. His mind was made up before they sacked their manager and before permission had been given for him to talk to them.
Still an absolute **** in my book.
Thank you for your efforts GC, now get gone. Oh and take JD with you please.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 11:41:25 GMT
Coughlan is an absolute w**ker with the way he has gone about this.
Cheerio!
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Post by ilfracombegas on Dec 16, 2019 11:43:38 GMT
A further thing that niggles me in the whole matter, is why should a poxy lowly club like Mansfield think out of the blue they could attract a manager new in a job near the top of the division higher than them.......stinks of agent interference to me.
Does it relate back to the so called "fans" who abused his family earlier this season, causing him to send out feelers for new jobs ?
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2019 11:45:29 GMT
As others have suggested, you just don't know what might be going on in his family life. Some have said "well he knew what he was getting into" which I don't buy at all. He's had many years commuting back and forth from Southend etc to Sheffield, but that was as a coach not a manager. A manager must be on the go constantly, and that must have been a nightmare when trying to get back to see his wife and kids. I can understand that. I've had periods in the past where I've taken on a new role in a company only to find after a year that it's taking too much of a toll on my personal life. I can imagine GC is experiencing something similar. Maybe it is simply time that he moves back north to be closer to his family, and taking on a job at an ambitious club like Mansfield might be just the right decision for him personally. Could he have handled it better? Probably, but we have to realise as fans that in GC's world, keeping his family happy is more important than keeping us lot happy. Life is short and we have hardly been that supportive of him in the last year anyway have we? We'll take on a new manager who has a great opportunity to build on some amazing foundations GC has left. We surely have to thank him for that. It's not a disastrous mess he's left us in. It looks like Mansfield approached us twice which wasn’t initially reported which lessens the under-handedness but it’s still hard to hold him in a favourable light because he has left mid-season and it could scupper another chance to play in the championship. You say about his family but it’s hard to really give that much credence, he was happy to take the job on knowing they lived away and I would bet that if we did it all over again now he would still take the job in order to get into management no wonder where his family are. It’s opportunism- he’s built up a reputation and he now calls the shots and will do what suits him best without a thought for the people who gave him the chance and backed him. Everyone will have their own thoughts on whether he owes any loyalty to the board. I don’t think it’s a good look myself when the end of the season is only 4 months or so away. I like how in your second sentence you just reiterated your point that I countered in my previous post. You can't turn back the clock, and he took on the managerial role to get into management as he was offered the opportunity. Most if not all coaches would have done the same. He's done it very well in this last year and has earned himself an opportunity to get another managerial post closer to home which will no doubt alleviate a lot of the pressure he's feeling from living away from home. As I previously stated, he probably had a rude awakening pairing his "long distance" home life with the pressures of management and maybe these approaches from Mansfield are just what he needs to get his work/life balance right. I know exactly how that feels as I've felt very stressed balancing this myself in the past. |
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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 16, 2019 11:46:59 GMT
Water under bridge then by the look of it. Just make sure Mansfield pay up the remainder of his contract in full. No cheap exit. Onwards
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Post by Icegas on Dec 16, 2019 11:48:08 GMT
He's been gone since he said what he did one Saturday. You cant say something like that in public and manage another game at this club even if he had a change of mind over the weekend. It seems that there were two offers by Mansfield last week which we knocked back by our board.But GC choose to go public and backed our board into a corner and they have had to say yes he can go talk to them. I dont blame him for wanting to be closer to home, but I see it as him bullying his way out of the club by going public on it which I feel lacks class and any respect for the club that gave him his break. I also hope the club is looking into him being tapped up as why on earth would a much smaller club then us, 18th in L2 believe that they could take the bigger club who is 4th in L1 manager unless unoffical contact was given out by GC or his agent? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 11:50:17 GMT
A further thing that niggles me in the whole matter, is why should a poxy lowly club like Mansfield think out of the blue they could attract a manager new in a job near the top of the division higher than them.......stinks of agent interference to me. Does it relate back to the so called "fans" who abused his family earlier this season, causing him to send out feelers for new jobs ? Don’t forget the Plymouth rumours that he never denied. That went on so long we all thought he was leaving then. If you take that into account as well as how this has all played out he might very well have been looking for a better offer ever since he went on a decent run last season. |
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Dec 16, 2019 11:51:28 GMT
When all this came out I was angry at the board. I thought this was GC being frustrated with not being able to get the signings he wanted in January to hopefully cement a play off position.
Now I am just fuming with GC. This has been engineered behind the scenes for some time whilst still the manager of our football club. No approach would have been made for GC had he not already been putting the feelers out there about new jobs. We won't now go and ask Fulham for permission to speak to their manager. You make think that is a ridiculous comparison but Mansfield have approached a manager of a team in the play-offs from the league above. Unheard of unless stuff had already happened behind the scenes.
Do I get it is hard being away from his family? I really do, yes. But we have given him that first chance in professional football management, it looked like we were on the brink of achieving something special but he has stuck the knife in the back and given it a little twist as well.
Only saving grace? At least some of our better players shouldn't drop down a division to follow him.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Dec 16, 2019 11:51:45 GMT
A further thing that niggles me in the whole matter, is why should a poxy lowly club like Mansfield think out of the blue they could attract a manager new in a job near the top of the division higher than them.......stinks of agent interference to me. Exactly my thoughts. Someone obviously let on to them. It would be like us now going after a manager from a championship team in the top six out of the blue. So what if, after the talks, it turns out that the offer is not that great nor if the position of the club and wants to continue with us? Surely now it is too late. After Saturdays final whistle, his reputation with the fans was as high as its ever been. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 11:54:10 GMT
It looks like Mansfield approached us twice which wasn’t initially reported which lessens the under-handedness but it’s still hard to hold him in a favourable light because he has left mid-season and it could scupper another chance to play in the championship. You say about his family but it’s hard to really give that much credence, he was happy to take the job on knowing they lived away and I would bet that if we did it all over again now he would still take the job in order to get into management no wonder where his family are. It’s opportunism- he’s built up a reputation and he now calls the shots and will do what suits him best without a thought for the people who gave him the chance and backed him. Everyone will have their own thoughts on whether he owes any loyalty to the board. I don’t think it’s a good look myself when the end of the season is only 4 months or so away. I like how in your second sentence you just reiterated your point that I countered in my previous post. You can't turn back the clock, and he took on the managerial role to get into management as he was offered the opportunity. Most if not all coaches would have done the same. He's done it very well in this last year and has earned himself an opportunity to get another managerial post closer to home which will no doubt alleviate a lot of the pressure he's feeling from living away from home. As I previously stated, he probably had a rude awakening pairing his "long distance" home life with the pressures of management and maybe these approaches from Mansfield are just what he needs to get his work/life balance right. I know exactly how that feels as I've felt very stressed balancing this myself in the past. That’s my point- he’s done what is best for himself and we will all have views on whether that is something to be applauded or held against him. Football management has hard end dates. The season ends in May, he could have been released from his contract then with our best wishes. I don’t for one second believe that he couldn’t have found another job with a decent northern club in league one or two if he had waited a bit and he might have had even more bargaining power if he won promotion here. |
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Post by Centenary Gas on Dec 16, 2019 11:54:18 GMT
He had obviously told Mansfield to come and get him, so that stuff about “thinking to do” and seeing how he feels in the morning, was absolute bullsh*t
He has handled this badly, Mansfield are welcome to him. He won’t last long if he doesn’t get the results to back up his ugly football.
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Post by Jomo on Dec 16, 2019 11:58:09 GMT
I like how in your second sentence you just reiterated your point that I countered in my previous post. You can't turn back the clock, and he took on the managerial role to get into management as he was offered the opportunity. Most if not all coaches would have done the same. He's done it very well in this last year and has earned himself an opportunity to get another managerial post closer to home which will no doubt alleviate a lot of the pressure he's feeling from living away from home. As I previously stated, he probably had a rude awakening pairing his "long distance" home life with the pressures of management and maybe these approaches from Mansfield are just what he needs to get his work/life balance right. I know exactly how that feels as I've felt very stressed balancing this myself in the past. That’s my point- he’s done what is best for himself and we will all have views on whether that is something to be applauded or held against him. Football management has hard end dates. The season ends in May, he could have been released from his contract then with our best wishes. I don’t for one second believe that he couldn’t have found another job with a decent northern club in league one or two if he had waited a bit and he might have had even more bargaining power if he won promotion here. Fair points, we may disagree on some things but I can see why some would be annoyed by the way he's gone about this, I just think we should temper that by at least appreciating what he's done for us and what might be driving his decision. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 12:02:55 GMT
That’s my point- he’s done what is best for himself and we will all have views on whether that is something to be applauded or held against him. Football management has hard end dates. The season ends in May, he could have been released from his contract then with our best wishes. I don’t for one second believe that he couldn’t have found another job with a decent northern club in league one or two if he had waited a bit and he might have had even more bargaining power if he won promotion here. Fair points, we may disagree on some things but I can see why some would be annoyed by the way he's gone about this, I just think we should temper that by at least appreciating what he's done for us and what might be driving his decision. Maybe we will in time but I think you can see by the sentiment on this page you are trying to defend the indefensible somewhat! It probably hinges on promotion- if we get promoted we’ll probably thank him for kicking it all off. If it all goes to sh**, well....let’s not even think about that! One thing is for sure, a lot of people will be hoping Mansfield get relegated to the conference now. |
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Post by giff on Dec 16, 2019 12:12:35 GMT
I just timing is really bad and he isn't coming out of this very dignified, just 7 days ago he was spouting on about everyone at the club sticking together and pulling together, now the first sign of interest from someone else and away he goes.
Just feel he has let himself down a bit here.
Still we move on hopefully to a better Manager to finish off what he has started.
My choice would be Ollie
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