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Post by Westy on Dec 20, 2019 20:03:13 GMT
OK, I'm gonna make possibly an unpopular opinion here, but I'm going to make it clear that I actually have no idea, and am genuinely interested in learning something here...!
Our training facilities are mooted to be rubbish; at best in need of replacing. But what really do the players need? I've seen a few people say that our facilities could be the reason for our injury record, and thinking about it over the years I can see the link and it does appear to be glaringly correct(?).
Surely a few pitches, a gym, some of those little cones and a goal net board with some holes in it (oh, and some footballs!). I mean, isn't that what they're training for, to play football matches with 1 ball, 2 nets and a field.
As I said, I've no idea. I don't know what our training facilities are like, other than a few pictures in the Evil Post that make it look like a 5-a-side centre (and I must admit, this is a bit concerning!) but please give me some schooling on what we're lacking, what we need, and what would be desired for a new training centre!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 20:05:24 GMT
You need to visit. Managers office = portakabin. Physio is set up in a changing room. We only have use of one of the pitches.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 20, 2019 20:10:19 GMT
Surely there must be better options around Bristol? Iirc we used to train at Imperial in Brislington and whilst I haven't seen our facilities at Cribbs, Imperial looked a he'll of a lot better than what's described.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 20, 2019 20:10:22 GMT
Under DC we hardly lost any players to injuries, we seem to have now signed 4 very injury prone players, Davies, Little, THD & JCH, not sure there's any real evidence it's down to the training pitch they are always injured, plus if it's so bad how the hell are we doing so well this season?
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 20, 2019 20:13:18 GMT
You need to visit. Managers office = portakabin. Physio is set up in a changing room. We only have use of one of the pitches. I've often gone past and seen 2 training games going on simultaneously, I've also seen 2 lots again training and the keepers making use of a third.
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Post by Westy on Dec 20, 2019 20:14:46 GMT
You need to visit. Managers office = portakabin. Physio is set up in a changing room. We only have use of one of the pitches. That says it all to me actually, thanks for both enlightening me, and at the same time frustrating me further at the club Ignorance was bliss there a while. Sounds like we'd be better off using a primary school playground. At least the changing rooms would have tiles on the roof
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Post by pirate on Dec 20, 2019 20:14:51 GMT
The most importing thing about a new training ground would be having the youths and first team together in one place training on quality pitches IMHO.
DC previously said:
"We are still training on one training pitch, we still get kicked off that now and again, sometimes I can’t even train at weekends because kids are playing on it.
"My under 23s are still training on an artificial pitch, what was the point of setting that up? My youth teams train on the artificial pitch rather than a grass pitch, what was the point of setting that up?"
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Post by Westy on Dec 20, 2019 20:17:43 GMT
Under DC we hardly lost any players to injuries, we seem to have now signed 4 very injury prone players, Davies, Little, THD & JCH, not sure there's any real evidence it's down to the training pitch they are always injured, plus if it's so bad how the hell are we doing so well this season? Fair enough, I think I was looking at that as the *obvious* link but true say on the injury prone players. It's one thing getting good players, but perhaps that's the reason we could afford them cos noone else wanted to take the risk? Which may of been wise. THD really excited me as a replacement for LB at the time, but looking at the Wikipedia, 18 appearances since 2018(?) doesn't sound like a great piece of business
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Post by Colyton Gas on Dec 20, 2019 20:19:06 GMT
Perhaps Mr Wael will address the issue in his weekly update!!!!
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Post by Westy on Dec 20, 2019 20:20:08 GMT
The most importing thing about a new training ground would be having the youths and first team together in one place training on quality pitches IMHO. DC previously said: "We are still training on one training pitch, we still get kicked off that now and again, sometimes I can’t even train at weekends because kids are playing on it. "My under 23s are still training on an artificial pitch, what was the point of setting that up? My youth teams train on the artificial pitch rather than a grass pitch, what was the point of setting that up?" Another great point, thanks pirate. That does seem like something that should of been in place from day 1 week 1! Mix the teams up, play them against eachother, all following the same regime in a place that's their own! The picture I'm painting in my head now is enough for me to understand players taking a look and taking a hard swerve
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Post by onedaygas83 on Dec 20, 2019 20:24:56 GMT
My old school Monks Park has better football facilities than the Gas and probably most modern school academies so how does a professional league one club struggle to match them?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 20:30:06 GMT
You need to visit. Managers office = portakabin. Physio is set up in a changing room. We only have use of one of the pitches. I've often gone past and seen 2 training games going on simultaneously, I've also seen 2 lots again training and the keepers making use of a third. Not pitches, just spare area set out with cones. Pay a visit.
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Post by eastgas on Dec 20, 2019 20:31:38 GMT
I don’t know much about it and maybe someone else will know more, but is it a possibility we could make use of the new uwe training facilities? I see there is a rovers badge on the signage out front?
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 20, 2019 20:32:24 GMT
I've often gone past and seen 2 training games going on simultaneously, I've also seen 2 lots again training and the keepers making use of a third. Not pitches, just spare area set out with cones. Pay a visit. I have.
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Post by toddy1953 on Dec 20, 2019 20:33:30 GMT
Under DC we hardly lost any players to injuries, we seem to have now signed 4 very injury prone players, Davies, Little, THD & JCH, not sure there's any real evidence it's down to the training pitch they are always injured, plus if it's so bad how the hell are we doing so well this season? I thought Davies knee injury was in a game & has developed tendinitis, THD was recovering from a career threatening injury & was a gamble by DC, class player if he gets fit, Little was injury prone at Bolton & JCH always looks like he is carrying an injury, so I agree probably nothing to do do with the training pitch. There could be an issue of how we play (and train) that could result in more injuries though. However, getting the whole club to train at the same place adds so much imo, continuity, confidence, decent physio, great way to integrate youngsters etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 20:33:48 GMT
Not pitches, just spare area set out with cones. Pay a visit. I have. Then you would have seen we only have access to one actual pitch at the bottom.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 20, 2019 20:35:15 GMT
Then you would have seen we only have access to one actual pitch at the bottom. I saw them training on 3.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 20:38:37 GMT
Then you would have seen we only have access to one actual pitch at the bottom. I saw them training on 3. Ok Gaz
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 20, 2019 20:39:30 GMT
I saw them training on 3. Ok Gaz OK then.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 20, 2019 20:45:08 GMT
Under DC we hardly lost any players to injuries, we seem to have now signed 4 very injury prone players, Davies, Little, THD & JCH, not sure there's any real evidence it's down to the training pitch they are always injured, plus if it's so bad how the hell are we doing so well this season? I thought Davies knee injury was in a game & has developed tendinitis, THD was recovering from a career threatening injury & was a gamble by DC, class player if he gets fit, Little was injury prone at Bolton & JCH always looks like he is carrying an injury, so I agree probably nothing to do do with the training pitch. There could be an issue of how we play (and train) that could result in more injuries though. However, getting the whole club to train at the same place adds so much imo, continuity, confidence, decent physio, great way to integrate youngsters etc. If we win tomorrow we could go 2nd, not sure we'd be doing any better with this group of players if we had the best training pitches in L1. Until we have a list of all the L1 teams training facilities it's impossible to know where ours stands. I doubt Wycombe's is top notch?
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