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Post by gasheadpirate on Jan 14, 2020 21:37:40 GMT
I don’t bloody care about City. We have some serious problems to worry about both on the pitch and behind the scenes. The club is turning into a joke.
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Post by glengas on Jan 14, 2020 21:37:57 GMT
Yes they are . I see it as we’ve got a very average at best bunch of players and when you’ve got that if you’ve got a manager that sees those players fitting in to his style and formation and gets those players running through walls for each other then you can get a top six maybe even top 2 season out of them. If you’ve got a manager who doesn’t understand the strengths of the squad and tries to do things different to how things worked before and don’t motivate them to make it work then that average squad can very easily be relegated. We’ve seen both situations at Rovers over the years. Add to that all the unrest with everything that’s gone on the last few weeks and it’s not surprising the way it’s gone on the pitch. I think that’s a very well put opinion Socrates, I’m not going to lie as I’ve made my points very clear about GC and the way in which he set us up to play. It would seem that he was deploying those tactics as he was getting the best out of an average to poor bunch. It’s only now that I see it. Looks like I may of got GC wrong and I’m gutted. You certainly seem to know your onions my friend. We rode our luck it could never continue. How a poor Southend team didn’t walk off the pitch at half time 5 or 6 up is beyond me. If Garner is a mistake then fine, but I never felt GC could keep this gong long term and maybe he realised this.
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Post by socrates on Jan 14, 2020 21:38:55 GMT
Yeah I mean it wasn’t going well before with Garner so now he’s doing things over the phone whilst dealing with something personal that’s obviously awful for him to deal with and probably taking up 99% of his thoughts it was never going to get better. The thing the board should do is say to him take off until the end of the season and in the mean time let Maher take control and make all of his own decisions, then if all being well and he wants to come back in the summer Garner will have the whole summer to concentrate on building whatever it is he wants to build and start a new season with a clean slate. Basically what we should have done in the first place. Exactly, if it.’s true that Garner is still dictating tactics (and the 4 at the back tonight sounds like he is) then I am staggered and it’s further proof that the owners couldn’t run a bloody bath. How can Maher possibly take training sessions for a guy he has barely worked with? The players must be watered right off especially with some having uncertain futures. I’m just wondering when this is going to be called a crisis. Can’t be far off... I think it’s a crisis . Club in 3rd place and great form and manager leaves suddenly New manager with no experience managing comes in changes formation and style of play during busiest part of season Team play awfully and struggle to get a shot on goal over a course of games no wins New manager has terrible family news and leaves to deal with it Assistant who’s only known new manager a couple of weeks takes over temporary charge and sticks with new managers tactics and style of play whilst communicating only over the phone briefly from time to time. Crisis ? Yes.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 14, 2020 21:39:26 GMT
Well at least we won't have to deal the the Bristol Post having 50 different articles about their game with Liverpool.
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Post by singupgas on Jan 14, 2020 21:39:38 GMT
The sh** losing is the only consolation for what is another dire night for us.
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Post by socrates on Jan 14, 2020 21:40:16 GMT
I think that’s a very well put opinion Socrates, I’m not going to lie as I’ve made my points very clear about GC and the way in which he set us up to play. It would seem that he was deploying those tactics as he was getting the best out of an average to poor bunch. It’s only now that I see it. Looks like I may of got GC wrong and I’m gutted. You certainly seem to know your onions my friend. We rode our luck it could never continue. How a poor Southend team didn’t walk off the pitch at half time 5 or 6 up is beyond me. If Garner is a mistake then fine, but I never felt GC could keep this gong long term and maybe he realised this. We beat Southend 4-2 Look in the book my friend It’s written down.
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 14, 2020 21:41:00 GMT
I think that’s a very well put opinion Socrates, I’m not going to lie as I’ve made my points very clear about GC and the way in which he set us up to play. It would seem that he was deploying those tactics as he was getting the best out of an average to poor bunch. It’s only now that I see it. Looks like I may of got GC wrong and I’m gutted. You certainly seem to know your onions my friend. We rode our luck it could never continue. How a poor Southend team didn’t walk off the pitch at half time 5 or 6 up is beyond me. If Garner is a mistake then fine, but I never felt GC could keep this gong long term and maybe he realised this. I agree and think the exact same , on another day Southend could of easily been 4,5 or even 6 up at half time. I think we have been pathetic all season and now our luck has well and truly run out. The thing that worries me most , is that we now look even worse !
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Jan 14, 2020 21:41:42 GMT
To be fair that is a bloody beautiful result at the New Meadow. Cheered me up no end!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 21:41:54 GMT
Exactly, if it.’s true that Garner is still dictating tactics (and the 4 at the back tonight sounds like he is) then I am staggered and it’s further proof that the owners couldn’t run a bloody bath. How can Maher possibly take training sessions for a guy he has barely worked with? The players must be watered right off especially with some having uncertain futures. I’m just wondering when this is going to be called a crisis. Can’t be far off... I think it’s a crisis . Club in 3rd place and great form and manager leaves suddenly New manager with no experience managing comes in changes formation and style of play during busiest part of season Team play awfully and struggle to get a shot on goal over a course of games no wins New manager has terrible family news and leaves to deal with it Assistant who’s only known new manager a couple of weeks takes over temporary charge and sticks with new managers tactics and style of play whilst communicating only over the phone briefly from time to time. Crisis ? Yes. At this point, I seriously have to ask who else would put up with this state of affairs? The manager’s role basically being left to become a farce with a manager taking training sessions over the phone whilst being pre-occupied with a crisis of his own? Where’s the strong leadership?
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 14, 2020 21:41:58 GMT
Just pull the pin on this one, it’s a punish.
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Post by singupgas on Jan 14, 2020 21:43:18 GMT
I don’t bloody care about City. We have some serious problems to worry about both on the pitch and behind the scenes. The club is turning into a joke. Nobody wants to say anything to our owners .. so nothing is going to change. The management, the players, the facilities..Nothing will change without people at the top changing way things are, WAQ is out of his depth, it was only time until that filtered down.
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Post by Rod1883 on Jan 14, 2020 21:43:36 GMT
Burton 1 MK0 Lincoln 5 Bolton 1
Results tonight Perhaps Bolton have subconsciously at least realised there's no hope? The problem is that with Southend so poor, and if Bolton are going to lose regularly too, there are more points being won by everyone else - it could make that safety line a little higher than a 'normal' 44 game season would suggest
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Post by norton gasbottle on Jan 14, 2020 21:43:40 GMT
This management have played 7 won 0 draw 2 lost 5. If that is repeated in 3 stages over the next 4 months . Then will that make 47 allpoints ??. I;m not too sure!. Worrying times !! Its all down to the players I have seen about two decent games all season Gc got away with it we have been lucky I have seen this coming and any honest fan should say the same.give the new manager a chance with the new players to change it round he does not deserve the flak some people on here sare giving him.at the moment we are just not good enough.
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Post by matealotblue on Jan 14, 2020 21:45:00 GMT
Well at least we won't have to deal the the Bristol Post having 50 different articles about their game with Liverpool. Or Points West (BCFC in disguise) sports bulletins......
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Post by madgas on Jan 14, 2020 21:46:44 GMT
On GC: I'm not sure you can manage a club for a year and then unequivocally be beyond skepticism.
Nor can BG after his start.
And Nor can Maher after this.
Too many people that know better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 21:47:48 GMT
Begging people to stop saying "but we were 2nd in the league". Time to man up.
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Post by endicotton on Jan 14, 2020 21:47:58 GMT
Let's all just be thankful Southend and Bolton don't look like they're going to get 36 points this season...
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Post by glengas on Jan 14, 2020 21:48:32 GMT
We rode our luck it could never continue. How a poor Southend team didn’t walk off the pitch at half time 5 or 6 up is beyond me. If Garner is a mistake then fine, but I never felt GC could keep this gong long term and maybe he realised this. We beat Southend 4-2 Look in the book my friend It’s written down. I knows it written down but that wasn’t the only game we were played off the park at home. If we had gone from being.a dominant team heading for promotion I would have been shocked but I always felt this might happen.
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Post by dragonfly on Jan 14, 2020 21:49:14 GMT
Garner has taken extended leave of absence and therefore should have no input with Team. The situation has become farcical and wholly unacceptable. For the good of the Club Garner should recognise this and quit.
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Post by socrates on Jan 14, 2020 21:50:38 GMT
I think it’s a crisis . Club in 3rd place and great form and manager leaves suddenly New manager with no experience managing comes in changes formation and style of play during busiest part of season Team play awfully and struggle to get a shot on goal over a course of games no wins New manager has terrible family news and leaves to deal with it Assistant who’s only known new manager a couple of weeks takes over temporary charge and sticks with new managers tactics and style of play whilst communicating only over the phone briefly from time to time. Crisis ? Yes. At this point, I seriously have to ask who else would put up with this state of affairs? The manager’s role basically being left to become a farce with a manager taking training sessions over the phone whilst being pre-occupied with a crisis of his own? Where’s the strong leadership? Leadership is the key word isn’t it. A football club is like any business in the sense that if there’s no leadership at the top then that problem goes right through the company and destroys it over time. Coughlan was a leader of men , ok the board are very wishy washy and our captain is very quiet and not our best player and so on but Coughlan was the leader in our club and made up for the fact that there’s no leadership at the very top. Now he’s gone where are the leaders ? Garner I dont think is a leader , Tony craig springs to mind top bloke tough as old boots and I would say Maher comes across like he could be a leader like GC was for us but if he’s under instruction from our manager who was here and then gone on the blink of an eye then there is no leadership currently and that is probably the key thing in our recent downfall.
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