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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 16:29:33 GMT
Imo it’s: Wael and Starnes BRFC Hamer and Masters I’m fed up with the bloody lot of all of them. Total Banned word of a club. City have barely had it so good in terms of take the water material. A total debt-ridden, in-fighting shambles with a tinpot stadium and a fox sh** filled flood plain for a training ground. Embarrassing. I'm not sure your second option is being thought about by either of the other 2 No it isn’t. And supporting the club is all well and good, but even that is in a sh** old state (thanks to the other 2). Perhaps that’s slightly unfair to Wael, maybe he means well but he and his family are so far out of their depth and they have taken us into the deep water with them to the point where we just aren’t an attractive proposition. So this is why I struggle with people who fear an alternative. The ship is already sinking. The Al Qadi’s will not fund these debts forever. We would be lucky to get anyone who wants to buy in given the up front cost never mind the cost of infrastructure. We should be bloody grateful to anyone who expresses an interest because even if the Al Qadi’s cling on the likelihood is we won’t have a club to support in a few years time. The club is totally unsustainable as it stands.
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Post by LJG on Jan 24, 2020 17:02:08 GMT
I'm not sure your second option is being thought about by either of the other 2 No it isn’t. And supporting the club is all well and good, but even that is in a sh** old state (thanks to the other 2). Perhaps that’s slightly unfair to Wael, maybe he means well but he and his family are so far out of their depth and they have taken us into the deep water with them to the point where we just aren’t an attractive proposition. So this is why I struggle with people who fear an alternative. The ship is already sinking. The Al Qadi’s will not fund these debts forever. We would be lucky to get anyone who wants to buy in given the up front cost never mind the cost of infrastructure. We should be bloody grateful to anyone who expresses an interest because even if the Al Qadi’s cling on the likelihood is we won’t have a club to support in a few years time. The club is totally unsustainable as it stands. Yeah I'd really love Gasincider, the guy who pulls his dick off making childish jibes at others about their company accounts on the internet, to live out his schoolboy dribblings and own the club instead.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 24, 2020 18:02:11 GMT
No it isn’t. And supporting the club is all well and good, but even that is in a sh** old state (thanks to the other 2). Perhaps that’s slightly unfair to Wael, maybe he means well but he and his family are so far out of their depth and they have taken us into the deep water with them to the point where we just aren’t an attractive proposition. So this is why I struggle with people who fear an alternative. The ship is already sinking. The Al Qadi’s will not fund these debts forever. We would be lucky to get anyone who wants to buy in given the up front cost never mind the cost of infrastructure. We should be bloody grateful to anyone who expresses an interest because even if the Al Qadi’s cling on the likelihood is we won’t have a club to support in a few years time. The club is totally unsustainable as it stands. Yeah I'd really love Gasincider, the guy who pulls his dick off making childish jibes at others about their company accounts on the internet, to live out his schoolboy dribblings and own the club instead. Theres nothing that could make me support Bristol Ci......wait a minute...
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Post by knowall on Jan 24, 2020 18:58:10 GMT
I'm a season ticket holder and a member of the Supporter Club. Personally I'm disgusted that a moderator on here is single handedly trying to undermine the whole of the supporters club because of his personal issues with one man. This same person who now stands apart from the main core of fans and shares Box 11 with at least three ex directors of this football club. Do these three directors share the same thoughts as this toxic individual who is only making matters much worse with his so called ITK postings on here. The same three directors who were btw working with the supporters club just a few years ago. Frankly I'm surprised that someone with so many personal vendettas can continue being a moderator on this forum. Sounds to me like gasincider & knowall have a vendetta against Wael, to be honest. The supporters club does not represent the majority of fans views, despite what they tell themselves. They're so far from the average fan it's frankly unbelievable. Did you hear that interview from Tommy a while ago with Masters & Hamer? Masters was frankly embarrassing. The SC has turned into an 'old white mens' club where they try to dictate all aspects of society. Why are gasincider & knowall given such information that no one else has? Why do they really refuse to share the full story, whilst stroking themselves and the thoughts of attention? Why do they continue to put a wedge in amongst the fans? Why do they want the fans to not support the club? Why does gasincider lie and change his story? Why doesn't the SC sit down with the club instead of trying legal action? What is the objective of the SC? It says on their website "Our aim is to support Bristol Rovers Football Club". If everything gasincider, knowall and Masters stand for is "to support Bristol Rovers" - then count me out! I can assure you that I have no vendetta against Wael or anyone else. Nor am I a member of the SC but I do appreciate the work they do for the Football Club and Ken Masters who does more than most who post on here and elsewhere. Tell us Gassy - what do you do for Bristol Rovers? For the record I was one of those who welcomed Wael and his family and installed his father as a President of the Presidents Club. (even thought as an ex financial professional I was aware the family are not 'that' wealthy - certainly if the comparison is BCFC!. That, in its self does not mean that they are incapable of progressing the Football Club, but it appears to me that following the collapse of UWE negotiations which Nick Higgs worked so hard to forge and despite, I am sure, some jeopardy to his own family fortune, there must be doubt where the Al-Qadi family can take our Football Club. It would be welcome if Wael or Hani (or even Martyn Starnes who is probably as in the dark as most of us) could give a statement as to where they see the immediate and long term future for the Football Club, and outline where we stand in respect of (1) training ground (2) stadium (3) finances. Nobody can be unaware of the impact the Al-Qadi family has had in the fortunes of BRFC but where now? is surely the question we all need answered asap?
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 24, 2020 19:02:00 GMT
Mods please move to the normal fans don’t give a f**k part of the forum - if there ain’t one please start one and put that bloody fruit market bollox in it too so all the ITKers can bore the sh** out of each other without boring the rest of us damn it
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 24, 2020 19:05:42 GMT
Mods please move to the normal fans don’t give a f**k part of the forum - if there ain’t one please start one and put that bloody fruit market bollox in it too so all the ITKers can bore the sh** out of each other without boring the rest of us damn it So you won't be that worried when eventually we don't have a club to support?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 19:11:10 GMT
Mods please move to the normal fans don’t give a f**k part of the forum - if there ain’t one please start one and put that bloody fruit market bollox in it too so all the ITKers can bore the sh** out of each other without boring the rest of us damn it So you won't be that worried when eventually we don't have a club to support? Oh god no! Don't tell me you have some factual information to back that statement up?
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 24, 2020 19:11:25 GMT
Mods please move to the normal fans don’t give a f**k part of the forum - if there ain’t one please start one and put that bloody fruit market bollox in it too so all the ITKers can bore the sh** out of each other without boring the rest of us damn it So you won't be that worried when eventually we don't have a club to support? oh come on really ? We have had worse times and survived - moaning and speculating will not help anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 19:16:25 GMT
Sounds to me like gasincider & knowall have a vendetta against Wael, to be honest. The supporters club does not represent the majority of fans views, despite what they tell themselves. They're so far from the average fan it's frankly unbelievable. Did you hear that interview from Tommy a while ago with Masters & Hamer? Masters was frankly embarrassing. The SC has turned into an 'old white mens' club where they try to dictate all aspects of society. Why are gasincider & knowall given such information that no one else has? Why do they really refuse to share the full story, whilst stroking themselves and the thoughts of attention? Why do they continue to put a wedge in amongst the fans? Why do they want the fans to not support the club? Why does gasincider lie and change his story? Why doesn't the SC sit down with the club instead of trying legal action? What is the objective of the SC? It says on their website "Our aim is to support Bristol Rovers Football Club". If everything gasincider, knowall and Masters stand for is "to support Bristol Rovers" - then count me out! I can assure you that I have no vendetta against Wael or anyone else. Nor am I a member of the SC but I do appreciate the work they do for the Football Club and Ken Masters who does more than most who post on here and elsewhere. Tell us Gassy - what do you do for Bristol Rovers? For the record I was one of those who welcomed Wael and his family and installed his father as a President of the Presidents Club. (even thought as an ex financial professional I was aware the family are not 'that' wealthy - certainly if the comparison is BCFC!. That, in its self does not mean that they are incapable of progressing the Football Club, but it appears to me that following the collapse of UWE negotiations which Nick Higgs worked so hard to forge and despite, I am sure, some jeopardy to his own family fortune, there must be doubt where the Al-Qadi family can take our Football Club. It would be welcome if Wael or Hani (or even Martyn Starnes who is probably as in the dark as most of us) could give a statement as to where they see the immediate and long term future for the Football Club, and outline where we stand in respect of (1) training ground (2) stadium (3) finances. Nobody can be unaware of the impact the Al-Qadi family has had in the fortunes of BRFC but where now? is surely the question we all need answered asap? Please enlighten me to what ken has done? This isn’t a dig at all just a wondering as if he’s been pulling up trees then the organisation he represents have been inept in sharing the good news story. What has ken actually done for Bristol rovers?
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Post by orgasmic on Jan 24, 2020 19:28:51 GMT
I can assure you that I have no vendetta against Wael or anyone else. Nor am I a member of the SC but I do appreciate the work they do for the Football Club and Ken Masters who does more than most who post on here and elsewhere. Tell us Gassy - what do you do for Bristol Rovers? For the record I was one of those who welcomed Wael and his family and installed his father as a President of the Presidents Club. (even thought as an ex financial professional I was aware the family are not 'that' wealthy - certainly if the comparison is BCFC!. That, in its self does not mean that they are incapable of progressing the Football Club, but it appears to me that following the collapse of UWE negotiations which Nick Higgs worked so hard to forge and despite, I am sure, some jeopardy to his own family fortune, there must be doubt where the Al-Qadi family can take our Football Club. It would be welcome if Wael or Hani (or even Martyn Starnes who is probably as in the dark as most of us) could give a statement as to where they see the immediate and long term future for the Football Club, and outline where we stand in respect of (1) training ground (2) stadium (3) finances. Nobody can be unaware of the impact the Al-Qadi family has had in the fortunes of BRFC but where now? is surely the question we all need answered asap? Please enlighten me to what ken has done? This isn’t a dig at all just a wondering as if he’s been pulling up trees then the organisation he represents have been inept in sharing the good news story. What has ken actually done for Bristol rovers? See my post on page 6.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 24, 2020 19:33:03 GMT
Sounds to me like gasincider & knowall have a vendetta against Wael, to be honest. The supporters club does not represent the majority of fans views, despite what they tell themselves. They're so far from the average fan it's frankly unbelievable. Did you hear that interview from Tommy a while ago with Masters & Hamer? Masters was frankly embarrassing. The SC has turned into an 'old white mens' club where they try to dictate all aspects of society. Why are gasincider & knowall given such information that no one else has? Why do they really refuse to share the full story, whilst stroking themselves and the thoughts of attention? Why do they continue to put a wedge in amongst the fans? Why do they want the fans to not support the club? Why does gasincider lie and change his story? Why doesn't the SC sit down with the club instead of trying legal action? What is the objective of the SC? It says on their website "Our aim is to support Bristol Rovers Football Club". If everything gasincider, knowall and Masters stand for is "to support Bristol Rovers" - then count me out! I can assure you that I have no vendetta against Wael or anyone else. Nor am I a member of the SC but I do appreciate the work they do for the Football Club and Ken Masters who does more than most who post on here and elsewhere. Tell us Gassy - what do you do for Bristol Rovers? For the record I was one of those who welcomed Wael and his family and installed his father as a President of the Presidents Club. (even thought as an ex financial professional I was aware the family are not 'that' wealthy - certainly if the comparison is BCFC!. That, in its self does not mean that they are incapable of progressing the Football Club, but it appears to me that following the collapse of UWE negotiations which Nick Higgs worked so hard to forge and despite, I am sure, some jeopardy to his own family fortune, there must be doubt where the Al-Qadi family can take our Football Club. It would be welcome if Wael or Hani (or even Martyn Starnes who is probably as in the dark as most of us) could give a statement as to where they see the immediate and long term future for the Football Club, and outline where we stand in respect of (1) training ground (2) stadium (3) finances. Nobody can be unaware of the impact the Al-Qadi family has had in the fortunes of BRFC but where now? is surely the question we all need answered asap? Sorry Knowall, I'm done answering any of the questions you'll put to me. You've just ignored 7 questions in my previous post. You seem to put yourself above needing to answer many questions from other fans on here too, so why should I bother wasting my time?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 24, 2020 20:16:24 GMT
So you won't be that worried when eventually we don't have a club to support? oh come on really ? We have had worse times and survived - moaning and speculating will not help anyway. When we're we last £10m+ in debt with zero stadium plans? I'd love to know what Wael's medium to long term plan is for the club.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 20:43:48 GMT
oh come on really ? We have had worse times and survived - moaning and speculating will not help anyway. When we're we last £10m+ in debt with zero stadium plans? I'd love to know what Wael's medium to long term plan is for the club. Oh he’ll tell you...............as soon as the fairies have told him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 20:58:39 GMT
To the go west tune
Hey Wael! What is going on? Etc
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 25, 2020 9:12:16 GMT
When we're we last £10m+ in debt with zero stadium plans? I'd love to know what Wael's medium to long term plan is for the club. Oh he’ll tell you...............as soon as the fairies have told him. Might need to explain this one fella - not getting your sledge hammer wit
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 25, 2020 9:25:24 GMT
oh come on really ? We have had worse times and survived - moaning and speculating will not help anyway. When we're we last £10m+ in debt with zero stadium plans? I'd love to know what Wael's medium to long term plan is for the club. I bet you would but if they told you they would have to kill you. At least we have a stadium unlike when we had to ground share at twerton.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 25, 2020 10:43:55 GMT
When we're we last £10m+ in debt with zero stadium plans? I'd love to know what Wael's medium to long term plan is for the club. I bet you would but if they told you they would have to kill you. At least we have a stadium unlike when we had to ground share at twerton. But for much longer will we have a stadium, can anybody honestly see the ALQ's will be content to bank roll the club to the tune of £2m+ p.a once all the equity is gone in the ground? Given G1981 is the unofficial Wael spokesman on Gaschat perhaps he could tells us what he's sees his the future of the club in the medium to long term should the KM/SH Fruit Market deal now collapse? No wonder the Mayor sounded so frustrated with the owners in his last interview, I'm now sensing how he felt. It seems Wael would sooner let Rovers die than agree a deal.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jan 25, 2020 10:50:22 GMT
I bet you would but if they told you they would have to kill you. At least we have a stadium unlike when we had to ground share at twerton. But for much longer will we have a stadium, can anybody honestly see the ALQ's will be content to bank roll the club to the tune of £2m+ p.a once all the equity is gone in the ground? Given G1981 is the unofficial Wael spokesman on Gaschat perhaps he could tells us what he's sees his the future of the club in the medium to long term should the KM/SH Fruit Market deal now collapse? No wonder the Mayor sounded so frustrated with the owners in his last interview, I'm now sensing how he felt. It seems Wael would sooner let Rovers die than agree a deal. I know you are a passionate supporter and I’m not having a go but until officially told we don’t know what is going on
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Post by knowall on Jan 25, 2020 10:53:55 GMT
I can assure you that I have no vendetta against Wael or anyone else. Nor am I a member of the SC but I do appreciate the work they do for the Football Club and Ken Masters who does more than most who post on here and elsewhere. Tell us Gassy - what do you do for Bristol Rovers? For the record I was one of those who welcomed Wael and his family and installed his father as a President of the Presidents Club. (even thought as an ex financial professional I was aware the family are not 'that' wealthy - certainly if the comparison is BCFC!. That, in its self does not mean that they are incapable of progressing the Football Club, but it appears to me that following the collapse of UWE negotiations which Nick Higgs worked so hard to forge and despite, I am sure, some jeopardy to his own family fortune, there must be doubt where the Al-Qadi family can take our Football Club. It would be welcome if Wael or Hani (or even Martyn Starnes who is probably as in the dark as most of us) could give a statement as to where they see the immediate and long term future for the Football Club, and outline where we stand in respect of (1) training ground (2) stadium (3) finances. Nobody can be unaware of the impact the Al-Qadi family has had in the fortunes of BRFC but where now? is surely the question we all need answered asap? Sorry Knowall, I'm done answering any of the questions you'll put to me. You've just ignored 7 questions in my previous post. You seem to put yourself above needing to answer many questions from other fans on here too, so why should I bother wasting my time? It was a rhetorical question as I think we all know the answer.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 25, 2020 11:01:23 GMT
Sorry Knowall, I'm done answering any of the questions you'll put to me. You've just ignored 7 questions in my previous post. You seem to put yourself above needing to answer many questions from other fans on here too, so why should I bother wasting my time? It was a rhetorical question as I think we all know the answer. So you wont answer his questions then.
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