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Post by piratesquarters on Jan 14, 2020 20:38:18 GMT
My favourite was Roger Delgado, but what has this to do with Rovers/ Or am I missing something.
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Post by madgas on Jan 14, 2020 20:38:22 GMT
I think it's because their role should be much more. Hence why some are annoyed that they no longer have a rep on the board and others can’t see how it matters. I think people generally can see how and why it matters, I just don't think particularly give a sh** about Ken Masters being the one. I’m not sure we can? In theory I think they should but as topper (clearly SC supporter) points out all they do is sell 50/50 tickets and arrange travel... These roles do not need board representation. Now- there role should be more substantial but that’s a failure of supporters club for not capturing the imagination of other supporters. I concede that without them- we might learn to regret our lack of support to the supporters club but we also might not...
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Post by LJG on Jan 14, 2020 20:38:58 GMT
Ken Masters has had this role for over 5 years. It's a bit of stretch to suggest that he's elected. It's a bit Putin-esque. Surprisingly he was re-elected uncontested, when BSS decided to step down the owners decided one FD was sufficent hence KM was left as the SC's only rep. As far as posters suggesting KM was behind the Garner leak is there any proof that is really the case, given Garner apparently told the players he was taking leave I assume there's 20+ players/coaches who could have leaked the reason? I don't get why fans support the owners who are destroying the equity in the Mem but are critical of KM/the SC who don't really seem to be doing a lot wrong given their role is just to sell 50/50 tickets/arrange away travel etc. Maybe people are f**ked off that the SC clique of "incider" old fogies are continually stirring the pot to lubricate their Walter Mitty fantasies of being football club owners? Don't forget of course wr won't be bringing any players in this January because we owe money to all our suppliers and "the money man" is the reason Nichols is on the bench tonight.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 14, 2020 20:39:05 GMT
f**k off!!! No I’m not welsh, but my wife is. 😁 6 other gasheads live in Marshfield too :true story: we have a get together down the local, the boyos love it lol! How long Marshy ? 33 years in the Rhondda for me. 18 years, I’m surprised that the valley commandos haven’t got you yet?
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Post by LJG on Jan 14, 2020 20:40:44 GMT
I think people generally can see how and why it matters, I just don't think particularly give a sh** about Ken Masters being the one. I’m not sure we can? In theory I think they should but as topper (clearly SC supporter) points out all they do is sell 50/50 tickets and arrange travel... These roles do not need board representation. Now- there role should be more substantial but that’s a failure of supporters club for not capturing the imagination of other supporters. Now, without them- we might learn to regret our lack of support to the supporters club but we also might not... I think we probably ultimately agree. A bunch of old geezers have turned the thing into such an old boy's club it's beginning to eat itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 20:41:06 GMT
I think it's because their role should be much more. Hence why some are annoyed that they no longer have a rep on the board and others can’t see how it matters. I think people generally can see how and why it matters, I just don't think particularly give a sh** about Ken Masters being the one. It absolutely matters that the 7% shareholding of the SC is properly represented on the board. Just had the wrong person doing this and he’s finally been found out.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 14, 2020 20:43:24 GMT
So if the FC take money from the supporters in exchange for shares and representation and then deny them that representation that’s in the best interests of the supporters of the FC is it? Supporting the FC is nor the same as supporting the owners of the FC and there are countless examples of where the owners of FCs have destroyed or decimated FCs. A famous example being Brighton when the owner sold the Goldstone and left them homeless. Other clubs who have suffered badly because of unscrupulous or incompetent owners include tonight’s opponents Coventry, Blackpool, Bury, Charlton, and Hereford United RIP. In every case the supporters of those clubs who loved those clubs fought the owners some with good outcomes others not but the motives of the supporters in every case was the good health of the football club as an ongoing entity. The motives of the owners was often completely at odds with that. Why then do we have fans critical of our supporters club? I would 100% trust the motives of BRSC in the same way as the supporters groups from those other clubs. On the other hand the owners of our club have already proven themselves to be untrustworthy and non communicative. The owners of the FC are far more likely to act against the long term health of the FC than the supporters club are and if the FC have now banished the SC representation from the Boardroom, people would be wise to worry much more about the motives of the owners than the motives of their fellow supporters! Maybe we should reserve judgement until we know why he's been banned? Is it an option for the SC to get a new board rep? Is the issue simply with Saint Ken or with the SC in general? I think it’s pretty obvious why the club has have done it. If you constantly slag off the owner of anything, leak confidential information to old side kicks and try and manipulate people and situations to further your own position then that’s going to really get on someone’s tits eventually. It should come as no surprise to any of them that it’s come to this. They were just all too dumb enough to follow a false messiah to begin with. The sad thing is that Ken is a gashead and has done lots of good work for the club. It seems pride has gotten the better of a few people and he’s undone all of his good work. I bear the man no harm but some of the things that he’s been party to within the last 18 months are despicable.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 14, 2020 20:45:23 GMT
Surprisingly he was re-elected uncontested, when BSS decided to step down the owners decided one FD was sufficent hence KM was left as the SC's only rep. As far as posters suggesting KM was behind the Garner leak is there any proof that is really the case, given Garner apparently told the players he was taking leave I assume there's 20+ players/coaches who could have leaked the reason? I don't get why fans support the owners who are destroying the equity in the Mem but are critical of KM/the SC who don't really seem to be doing a lot wrong given their role is just to sell 50/50 tickets/arrange away travel etc. Maybe people are f**ked off that the SC clique of "incider" old fogies are continually stirring the pot to lubricate their Walter Mitty fantasies of being football club owners? Don't forget of course wr won't be bringing any players in this January because we owe money to all our suppliers and "the money man" is the reason Nichols is on the bench tonight. I wish I could like this post twice, you are so spot on! You have to wonder why the SC are perusing legal action against the club rather than disclosing why Masters has been banned or finding a new rep that the club can work with.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 14, 2020 20:46:31 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't KM caught out a few months ago with some text messages sent to the wrong person? If you can 100% trust him then fair play. You didn’t read my post properly did you, try again and don't make up stuff I didn’t say. Make up stuff you didn't say? You said you 100% trust the motives of the Supporters Club yet their representative was seemingly caught out causing trouble. Not really sure how that's me twisting anything you've said tbh.
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Post by badengas on Jan 14, 2020 20:48:49 GMT
How long Marshy ? 33 years in the Rhondda for me. 18 years, I’m surprised that the valley commandos haven’t got you yet? Broke my nose, jaw and knocked two teeth out on my first big day out here, back drinking with the same boys later that night and still now. Even the Tonyrefail Taliban are friendly, everyone hates the Sh!t as much as the Jacks.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 14, 2020 20:49:27 GMT
Maybe we should reserve judgement until we know why he's been banned? Is it an option for the SC to get a new board rep? Is the issue simply with Saint Ken or with the SC in general? I think it’s pretty obvious why the club has have done it. If you constantly slag off the owner of anything, leak confidential information to old side kicks for personal gain and try and manipulate people and situations to further your own position then that’s going to really get on someone’s tits eventually. It should come as no surprise to any of them that it’s come to this. They were just all too dumb enough to follow a false messiah to begin with. The sad thing is that Ken is a gashead and has done lots of good work for the club. It seems pride has gotten the better of a few people and he’s undone all of his good work. I bear the man no harm but some of the things that he’s been party to within the last 18 months are despicable. Such as, you can't taint somebody's reputation w/o giving some facts?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 14, 2020 20:51:47 GMT
I think it’s pretty obvious why the club has have done it. If you constantly slag off the owner of anything, leak confidential information to old side kicks for personal gain and try and manipulate people and situations to further your own position then that’s going to really get on someone’s tits eventually. It should come as no surprise to any of them that it’s come to this. They were just all too dumb enough to follow a false messiah to begin with. The sad thing is that Ken is a gashead and has done lots of good work for the club. It seems pride has gotten the better of a few people and he’s undone all of his good work. I bear the man no harm but some of the things that he’s been party to within the last 18 months are despicable. Such as, you can't taint somebody's reputation w/o giving some facts? Heh heh You said taint.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 20:53:50 GMT
I think it’s pretty obvious why the club has have done it. If you constantly slag off the owner of anything, leak confidential information to old side kicks and try and manipulate people and situations to further your own position then that’s going to really get on someone’s tits eventually. It should come as no surprise to any of them that it’s come to this. They were just all too dumb enough to follow a false messiah to begin with. The sad thing is that Ken is a gashead and has done lots of good work for the club. It seems pride has gotten the better of a few people and he’s undone all of his good work. I bear the man no harm but some of the things that he’s been party to within the last 18 months are despicable. Such as, you can't taint somebody's reputation w/o giving some facts? Why not? I thought that was the rules of this forum. Or does that only count for the Al-Qadis?
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 14, 2020 20:54:35 GMT
You didn’t read my post properly did you, try again and don't make up stuff I didn’t say. Make up stuff you didn't say? You said you 100% trust the motives of the Supporters Club yet their representative was seemingly caught out causing trouble. Not really sure how that's me twisting anything you've said tbh. Like I said I 100% trust their (BRSC) motives. If this is simply a case of KM watering off the other shareholders and acting against the interests of the FC rather than against the interest of the FCs owners then I’m sure that the SC would have put another rep in place by now that would have been acceptable to the other shareholders.
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Post by Westy on Jan 14, 2020 20:54:56 GMT
I have the power! Masters of the Universe. More like "Pigs in Space" Surely just Masters of the Carpark now?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 14, 2020 20:55:23 GMT
Such as, you can't taint somebody's reputation w/o giving some facts? Why not? I thought that was the rules of this forum. Or does that only count for the Al-Qadis? You mean the fake sheik, asset stripping fantasist? Love it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 20:56:33 GMT
Why not? I thought that was the rules of this forum. Or does that only count for the Al-Qadis? You mean the fake sheik, asset stripping fantasist? Love it. Serious
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 14, 2020 20:56:48 GMT
Surprisingly he was re-elected uncontested, when BSS decided to step down the owners decided one FD was sufficent hence KM was left as the SC's only rep. As far as posters suggesting KM was behind the Garner leak is there any proof that is really the case, given Garner apparently told the players he was taking leave I assume there's 20+ players/coaches who could have leaked the reason? I don't get why fans support the owners who are destroying the equity in the Mem but are critical of KM/the SC who don't really seem to be doing a lot wrong given their role is just to sell 50/50 tickets/arrange away travel etc. Maybe people are f**ked off that the SC clique of "incider" old fogies are continually stirring the pot to lubricate their Walter Mitty fantasies of being football club owners? Don't forget of course wr won't be bringing any players in this January because we owe money to all our suppliers and "the money man" is the reason Nichols is on the bench tonight. It's looking most likely 7 games w/o a win, odds on it'll then be 8 on Saturday and you're celebrating the fact we've bought in 3 under 23 players, whilst telling Nichols a regular 1st teamer, whether you rate him on not, to find a new club.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 14, 2020 20:58:51 GMT
I think it’s pretty obvious why the club has have done it. If you constantly slag off the owner of anything, leak confidential information to old side kicks and try and manipulate people and situations to further your own position then that’s going to really get on someone’s tits eventually. It should come as no surprise to any of them that it’s come to this. They were just all too dumb enough to follow a false messiah to begin with. The sad thing is that Ken is a gashead and has done lots of good work for the club. It seems pride has gotten the better of a few people and he’s undone all of his good work. I bear the man no harm but some of the things that he’s been party to within the last 18 months are despicable. Such as, you can't taint somebody's reputation w/o giving some facts? Well... Let’s start with the text message saga. Remember that one? Then there was the AGM where he stood by whilst his own shareholders were grossly disrespectful to the owners. The meetings with the likes of GI (who GI vehemently denies meeting and speaking to, can provide proof if required) who just so happens to come on here with all sorts of tip bits of info. (Which is probably what this saga is all about). Flip me I could type all night.
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Post by LJG on Jan 14, 2020 20:58:52 GMT
Maybe people are f**ked off that the SC clique of "incider" old fogies are continually stirring the pot to lubricate their Walter Mitty fantasies of being football club owners? Don't forget of course wr won't be bringing any players in this January because we owe money to all our suppliers and "the money man" is the reason Nichols is on the bench tonight. It's looking most likely 7 games w/o a win, odds on it'll then be 8 on Saturday and you're celebrating the fact we've bought in 3 under 23 players, whilst telling Nichols a regular 1st teamer, whether you rate him on not, to find a new club. You're able to type so I'm assuming you have the ability to read. But really there's no evidence of it in your post.
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